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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #50 on: October 11, 2016, 03:00:57 pm »

Priorities are seriously messed up for people who are not opposing Hillary.  They are jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire. 


 You want to oppose Hillary?  Then for God's sake, demand that Trump step down in favor of Pence.  It's the only chance we've got,  and it's slipping away by the hour.


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #51 on: October 11, 2016, 03:02:37 pm »
I'm just glad now that I know the going price for Pence's soul is the opportunity to be Vice-President.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #52 on: October 11, 2016, 03:06:28 pm »
You hide it well.


Prime example of the childish nonsense I keep seeing on this website. 


Instead of "The Briefing Room"  I'm beginning to believe a better title would be "The Romper Room." 


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #53 on: October 11, 2016, 03:10:02 pm »
I'm just glad now that I know the going price for Pence's soul is the opportunity to be Vice-President.

One could make the argument that Pence was looking to 2020.

Bad news, Mike: you can't have your cake and eat it, too.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #54 on: October 11, 2016, 03:11:34 pm »

Prime example of the childish nonsense I keep seeing on this website. 


Instead of "The Briefing Room"  I'm beginning to believe a better title would be "The Romper Room."

That post and those like it is exactly the reason for my comment. You don't think. You emote.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #55 on: October 11, 2016, 03:12:24 pm »
That post and those like it are exactly the reason for my comment. You don't think. You emote.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #56 on: October 11, 2016, 03:17:06 pm »


 You want to oppose Hillary?  Then for God's sake, demand that Trump step down in favor of Pence. 


You are irrational.   This statement demonstrates that you have not the slightest understanding of how politics actually works.    This is baby talk.    This is stamp your feet and throw a temper tantrum nonsense.   




You would gain a few votes,  but you would lose a hundred times the number.





It's the only chance we've got,  and it's slipping away by the hour.


Unreal.   





I've been thinking that since Trump entered the race.   


Yes,  since Trump entered the race,  people have been straining at gnats and swallowing camels.  He has certainly illuminated a tiny swath of Republican kooks,  and not to mention a few backstabbers like Romney and Ryan.   


Apparently we shall all slide down into the darkness because the Nation has become too immature to govern itself.   

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #57 on: October 11, 2016, 03:19:39 pm »
That post and those like it is exactly the reason for my comment. You don't think. You emote.


I don't really think there is much point in responding to you.   Have a nice day. 


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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #58 on: October 11, 2016, 03:22:39 pm »

I don't really think there is much point in responding to you.   Have a nice day.

More emoting.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #59 on: October 11, 2016, 03:23:30 pm »
@LMAO

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I think you've nailed a lot of hard-core Trump supporters exactly right. This did give them an opportunity to indulge their tantrums.  The problem is they forgot you have to win an election. And you have to at least start from the basis of nominating someone who is electable.

But here's the rub -- they did believe he is/was electable.  In fact, most believe he was going to win in a landslide.  And that happened because they were prisoners of the exact same self-delusion as are so many conservatives: the false (though infinitely comforting) belief that they really represent a "silent majority".  That somehow, that great mass of people who don't vote in most election will just magically come out for "their guy", because all those non-voters have been waiting for all along is someone who sees things the way they do.  It's such an easy thing to believe because it is impossible to prove false.

The hard-core Trump supporters, the third-party conservatives, the green-leaning leftists, the Perotistas...it's all the same.  All operate under the delusion that there is a "silent majority" out there who will come out for their candidate if only the candidate remains pure and true to their beliefs.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #60 on: October 11, 2016, 03:27:44 pm »
@LMAO

But here's the rub -- they did believe he is/was electable.  In fact, most believe he was going to win in a landslide.  And that happened because they were prisoners of the exact same self-delusion as are so many conservatives: the false (though infinitely comforting) belief that they really represent a "silent majority".  That somehow, that great mass of people who don't vote in most election will just magically come out for "their guy", because all those non-voters have been waiting for all along is someone who sees things the way they do.  It's such an easy thing to believe because it is impossible to prove false.

The hard-core Trump supporters, the third-party conservatives, the green-leaning leftists, the Perotistas...it's all the same.  All operate under the delusion that there is a "silent majority" out there who will come out for their candidate if only the candidate remains pure and true to their beliefs.

Yep..well said

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« Reply #61 on: October 11, 2016, 03:30:12 pm »
@LMAO

But here's the rub -- they did believe he is/was electable.  In fact, most believe he was going to win in a landslide.  And that happened because they were prisoners of the exact same self-delusion as are so many conservatives: the false (though infinitely comforting) belief that they really represent a "silent majority".  That somehow, that great mass of people who don't vote in most election will just magically come out for "their guy", because all those non-voters have been waiting for all along is someone who sees things the way they do.  It's such an easy thing to believe because it is impossible to prove false.

The hard-core Trump supporters, the third-party conservatives, the green-leaning leftists, the Perotistas...it's all the same.  All operate under the delusion that there is a "silent majority" out there who will come out for their candidate if only the candidate remains pure and true to their beliefs.

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Christians comprise 20% of the voting block.

This latest neocon attack on Trump is designed to MAKE THEM STAY HOME.

How simple can it get?

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #62 on: October 11, 2016, 03:31:25 pm »


But here's the rub -- they did believe he is/was electable.  In fact, most believe he was going to win in a landslide.  And that happened because they were prisoners of the exact same self-delusion as are so many conservatives: the false (though infinitely comforting) belief that they really represent a "silent majority".  That somehow, that great mass of people who don't vote in most election will just magically come out for "their guy", because all those non-voters have been waiting for all along is someone who sees things the way they do.  It's such an easy thing to believe because it is impossible to prove false.

The hard-core Trump supporters, the third-party conservatives, the green-leaning leftists, the Perotistas...it's all the same.  All operate under the delusion that there is a "silent majority" out there who will come out for their candidate if only the candidate remains pure and true to their beliefs.

@Maj. Bill Martin

I don't know that even if we nominated   a solid conservative candidate that the candidate would have won. Regardless who won the primary, they would have an uphill battle. With a deteriorating culture, with more and more people at the government trough, and demographics, I am and was then fully aware what we, as conservatives, are up against. You are absolutely correct that people tend to think the rest of the country sees things through their own eyes. And, if you do that, you don't think you have to teach as everyone agrees with you so there's no need to. The reality is, conservatives are in for a long, tough haul. But, I believe conservative values and political positions are the superior ones and I plan on fighting for them

 We can't say for sure what the election results would be if a Cruz or Rubio was running. And I believe both are electable. But it doesn't mean I think they were shoe ins. But it's clear, at least for the moment, what the results will be with Trump running.

BTW, I enjoy your posts. Very reasoned and matter of fact.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #63 on: October 11, 2016, 03:33:08 pm »

Prime example of the childish nonsense I keep seeing on this website. 


Instead of "The Briefing Room"  I'm beginning to believe a better title would be "The Romper Room."

Hey....you're free to leave....any time, DL.  In fact....I'm starting to think that you enjoy it here.  Why else would you still be around....this being such a negative place in your "mind" and all.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #64 on: October 11, 2016, 03:37:37 pm »

Prime example of the childish nonsense I keep seeing on this website. 


Instead of "The Briefing Room"  I'm beginning to believe a better title would be "The Romper Room."

No, the Romper Room is the "safe space" that you Trumpers have.

This is the adult forum where adults disagree in an adult manner........... unless of course they just peek out of the safe space for Trumpers to take pot shots at the grown ups, and then go back to hide.

IOW, you have it backwards.

No surprise there.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #65 on: October 11, 2016, 03:38:37 pm »

You are irrational.   This statement demonstrates that you have not the slightest understanding of how politics actually works.    This is baby talk.    This is stamp your feet and throw a temper tantrum nonsense.   




You would gain a few votes,  but you would lose a hundred times the number.





Unreal.   






Yes,  since Trump entered the race,  people have been straining at gnats and swallowing camels.  He has certainly illuminated a tiny swath of Republican kooks,  and not to mention a few backstabbers like Romney and Ryan.   


Apparently we shall all slide down into the darkness because the Nation has become too immature to govern itself.

Oh....and just so ya know.....

that "straining at gnats and swallowing camels" line you use so often is getting a bit moldy and tired.  If you do deign to stick around and grace us with your 'oh so mature' presence.... you might want to come up with some other asinine line to spiel ad nauseam.  Just sayin....
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #66 on: October 11, 2016, 03:40:51 pm »
Ever since I cut down on Talk Radio, my outlook on life is much better. Also, I think my blood pressure has gone down.

Yup.  Amen.

Turned Rush off for good, canceled my 24/7 - and I even turned off Levin for the duration.

I get my political fix right here - and this is far healthier and more informative.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #67 on: October 11, 2016, 03:41:25 pm »
Jerry Falwell Jr was on Hannity earlier in the year talking about a sizable unsolicited contribution to Liberty U from Donald Trump. I knew his endorsement would soon follow and sure enough it did.

I did not know about Graham. Thats disappointing.

But Graham has not endorsed Trump.

My husband attended a prayer rally Franklin had in Columbus last week, and he most definitely did NOT endorse Trump.

I think that Trump donated in order to bribe him, but it didn't succeed.

Billy and his family are above reproach when it comes to finances.  Billy made sure that was so at least 60 years ago.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #68 on: October 11, 2016, 03:42:05 pm »
@Maj. Bill Martin

I don't know that even if we nominated   a solid conservative candidate that the candidate would have won. Regardless who won the primary, they would have an uphill battle. With a deteriorating culture, with more and more people at the government trough, and demographics, I am and was then fully aware what we, as conservatives, are up against. You are absolutely correct that people tend to think the rest of the country sees things through their own eyes. And, if you do that, you don't think you have to teach as everyone agrees with you so there's no need to. The reality is, conservatives are in for a long, tough haul.

My "hope" is based on the belief that there is a critical mass of voters who generally can be persuaded to vote for the candidate who is the most charismatic/likeable, as long as their views aren't too extreme.  So, a strong conservative is never going to win the nomination and general election simply because they are a good, strong conservative.  They're going to need to be conservative and have that extra personality/charisma that can swing a lot of low-information voters.  That's a tough combination to find, but it is possible to do that.

It is easy to fall into the trap of believing that everyone else is like us political junkies, and votes solely on the issues.  That's just not the case.  And while I wish that conservatism really was the majority philosophy so we could win elections that way, I'll take a win any way I can get it.  And that means conservatives who appeal to more than just conservatives.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #69 on: October 11, 2016, 03:44:04 pm »
Oh....and just so ya know.....

that "straining at gnats and swallowing camels" line you use so often is getting a bit moldy and tired.  If you do deign to stick around and grace us with your 'oh so mature' presence.... you might want to come up with some other asinine line to spiel ad nauseam.  Just sayin....

Ironic, isn't it, that the guy here complaining that America is not "mature enough" is a cheerleader for the most childish politician to ever live.

I know many, MANY 8 year olds more mature than Donald Trump.

And DioLamp thinks that it's the grown ups who support him.   :silly:

You can't make this stuff up.....
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #70 on: October 11, 2016, 03:44:24 pm »
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Christians comprise 20% of the voting block.

This latest neocon attack on Trump is designed to MAKE THEM STAY HOME.

How simple can it get?

So what? 

You and your Prince stated repeatedly you did not need, nor want the support of Principled Conservative Christians that did not like Trump back when.

So they will stay home.

What's the problem?
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #71 on: October 11, 2016, 03:47:26 pm »
Oh....and just so ya know.....

that "straining at gnats and swallowing camels" line you use so often is getting a bit moldy and tired.  If you do deign to stick around and grace us with your 'oh so mature' presence.... you might want to come up with some other asinine line to spiel ad nauseam.  Just sayin....

Isn't it interesting how Trump cheerleaders appear on this forum and fail in defending their childish hero because there are so many adults who rationally oppose their pablum, and as soon as they realize they can't beat logic with their emotional outbursts, they start blaming the forum for the failure of their arguments.

Fascinating to observe......

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #72 on: October 11, 2016, 03:48:11 pm »
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Christians comprise 20% of the voting block.

This latest neocon attack on Trump is designed to MAKE THEM STAY HOME.

How simple can it get?

Self-described Christians are not a monolithic voting block, especially given that it includes a lot of African-Americans.  So they weren't voting for him anyway.  I think this was largely targeted at the soccer mom vote -- married women.  And it will probably be effective.

But that doesn't change the point that a lot of Trump supporters -- warned specifically during the primaries that Trump was an unvetted unknown who could have damaging stuff leak during the general election -- nevertheless were confident he'd win in a landslide because of that "silent majority".  That silent majority does not exist.  The "silent majority" is silent generally because they don't care very much about politics, aren't interested, don't take the time, etc., and their underlying political tendencies -- to the extent they have any at all -- are all over the map in terms of ideology.  So they aren't a majority of anything.

With rare exceptions, those of us who actually care vote already.
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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #73 on: October 11, 2016, 03:48:45 pm »
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Christians comprise 20% of the voting block.

This latest neocon attack on Trump is designed to MAKE THEM STAY HOME.

How simple can it get?

So Donald Trump's own video admission that he is a sexual predator is now the Jews' fault??

You're amazing, Happy.  Just amazing......   **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Laura Ingraham: We've been waiting for this moment
« Reply #74 on: October 11, 2016, 03:53:44 pm »
Yup.  Amen.

Turned Rush off for good, canceled my 24/7 - and I even turned off Levin for the duration.

I get my political fix right here - and this is far healthier and more informative.

Am feeling much better.

Better class of peoples here too.