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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #50 on: October 07, 2016, 07:58:18 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 07, 2016, 07:53:05 pm

Romney evil? Haha... don't think I even heard the Democrats call him that.


This place is kook-central.

It is highly illogical for you to call "this place" "kook central" because one person states an opinion other than your own.

Perhaps you should back up emotionally and not be so melodramatic??   :smokin:
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #51 on: October 07, 2016, 07:59:13 pm »
Quote from: NavyCanDo on October 07, 2016, 06:02:15 pm
I don't live in a swing state, but has He been buying many ads?  Here in WA where Hillary doesn't need to spend a dime to win, I see her ads often. Her purse must be huge if she is not concerned where to spend the money.

Same thing here in downstate NY.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #52 on: October 07, 2016, 07:59:26 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on October 07, 2016, 05:49:36 pm
Sooo......what do you make of it?  I have yet to see one Trump anti-Hillary ad here in Texas.  Is he so arrogant that he assumes he has this election in the bag?

In the past couple of days I have seen a couple of anit-Hillary/Pro-Trump ads, but the ads are from different sources other than from the Trump campaign. I don't think he assumes he has this election in the bag, but rather he has no intention of winning.
The perception that we actually have a choice in this election has merely been an illusion.

Just my opinion.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #53 on: October 07, 2016, 08:00:30 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2016, 06:03:49 pm
Remember this is the NYT's..they want you to believe he is pulling out and it is absolutely not the case....Trump is trying to save money on ad buys where he is ahead.

I thought the point of having a billionaire (allegedly) as nominee is that he wouldn't be hamstrung by money.  Why is Clinton blanketing the country, including downstate NY, with ads and he's not?
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #54 on: October 07, 2016, 08:00:36 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on October 07, 2016, 07:56:51 pm
As one with scots in his heritage, I can say that the only thing that offends me about your post is the huge number of unnecessary words you've wasted!!  :silly:
Well played, well played indeed.  :laugh:
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #55 on: October 07, 2016, 08:00:51 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on October 07, 2016, 07:58:18 pm
It is highly illogical for you to call "this place" "kook central" because one person states an opinion other than your own.

Perhaps you should back up emotionally and not be so melodramatic??   :smokin:


Melodramatic? You mean like referring to such a milquetoast character like Romney as "evil"?


Is that a Jesus thing? Strange...
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #56 on: October 07, 2016, 08:04:37 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 07, 2016, 08:00:51 pm

Melodramatic? You mean like referring to such a milquetoast character like Romney as "evil"?


Is that a Jesus thing? Strange...

OK.  Weird response........... especially the random "Jesus" part.  Weird.  Nonsensical, even.....

I was actually joking because you came after me a while back with a sledgehammer about being "melodramatic" because I was mourning the loss of the Republican party.  (I was and still am).

I see that you do not handle well being on the receiving end of what you so freely give out.

At any rate, it was a joke.   Peace.   ^-^
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #57 on: October 07, 2016, 08:04:54 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 07, 2016, 07:53:05 pm

Romney evil? Haha... don't think I even heard the Democrats call him that.


This place is kook-central.

LOL. Good ol' WTF. Always playing it too cool for school. Always saying this political discourse is all beneath you. Always saying you are over all of this party politics bullshit and giving it up.....for all the YEARS you have been posting.



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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #58 on: October 07, 2016, 08:05:36 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2016, 06:00:55 pm
Rush saying he is canceling these ad buys because he is way ahead in these rural areas..

Ok, and just how exactly is Trump confident that he is way ahead in these areas?  Somehow he has access to early voting data?  If he's relying on polls he is absolutely foolish.

He has no intention of winning, nor has he ever wanted to be president.  His objective has already been accomplished.  He stopped Cruz.

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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #59 on: October 07, 2016, 08:06:03 pm »
I'm going to go by this a bit different.

First, IF it is true that he is canceling ads in rural areas to focus on major markets, that is wise, not because you take them for granted but because it gives you the greatest bang for the buck.

However, two of the states listed, Florida and Main, are primarily dominated by just major markets. Going down the primary network listings for those States, they don't have a whole lot of rural markets to buy. Miami TV market, for example, covers most of the south of the State because the State is so narrow. Maine only has a couple of markets, both major (relative to the State's size).

Usually major market buys would have already hit the rural markets anyway, and that's the case in most States.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #60 on: October 07, 2016, 08:09:20 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2016, 06:00:55 pm
Rush saying he is canceling these ad buys because he is way ahead in these rural areas..

I could buy the other cities in Florida, but no way Trump is ahead, much less way ahead, in Jax or West Palm.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #61 on: October 07, 2016, 08:11:57 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on October 07, 2016, 07:59:26 pm
In the past couple of days I have seen a couple of anit-Hillary/Pro-Trump ads, but the ads are from different sources other than from the Trump campaign. I don't think he assumes he has this election in the bag, but rather he has no intention of winning.
The perception that we actually have a choice in this election has merely been an illusion.

Just my opinion.

Yeah, when I previously asked the pro-Trumpers WHEN Trump was (ever) going to run anti-Hillary ads, they responded "when the timing is right"....indicating that Trump is waiting for the best time.  Still waiting.....

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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #62 on: October 07, 2016, 08:13:52 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on October 07, 2016, 08:11:57 pm
Yeah, when I previously asked the pro-Trumpers WHEN Trump was (ever) going to run anti-Hillary ads, they responded "when the timing is right"....indicating that Trump is waiting for the best time.  Still waiting.....



I guess the "right time" must be Nov. 9th, when he'll need all the ads he can buy to blame his loss on everyone but himself.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #63 on: October 07, 2016, 08:14:48 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2016, 06:00:55 pm
Rush saying he is canceling these ad buys because he is way ahead in these rural areas..

West Palm Beach... rural?!?
Toledo... Tallahassee... Jacksonville... Greensboro, too.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #64 on: October 07, 2016, 08:15:15 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 07, 2016, 08:04:54 pm
LOL. Good ol' WTF. Always playing it too cool for school. Always saying this political discourse is all beneath you. Always saying you are over all of this party politics bullshit and giving it up.....for all the YEARS you have been posting.


Nothing's beneath me. :)


I am a small government conservative with a libertarian bent.


"We" will lose the Presidency in November.  I saw it in April. My hopes were briefly up a few weeks ago, maybe I was wrong about Donny. Nope, he cratered...


Romney is a loser but evil? That's stupid talk IMO. Losers are not evil.


What's the answer here? I don't know. Once HIllary wins it will be 12 full years with a Dem in the white house.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #65 on: October 07, 2016, 08:15:58 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 07, 2016, 08:04:54 pm
LOL. Good ol' WTF. Always playing it too cool for school. Always saying this political discourse is all beneath you. Always saying you are over all of this party politics bullshit and giving it up.....for all the YEARS you have been posting.


I wish I could quit you, Frank. :)
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #66 on: October 07, 2016, 08:18:55 pm »
Here we go..

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-cancels-ad-buys-229291
Trump campaign cancels ad buy, promises future expansion
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #67 on: October 07, 2016, 08:22:22 pm »
Quote from: Norm Lenhart on October 07, 2016, 05:58:21 pm
I still say they run Romney. Trump bails, Romney is the only guy that makes sense for them. Been saying it for months now.

Yes, Romney did so well last time.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #68 on: October 07, 2016, 08:24:33 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2016, 08:18:55 pm
Here we go..

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/trump-cancels-ad-buys-229291
Trump campaign cancels ad buy, promises future expansion

The story:
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Less than five weeks until the election, Donald Trump has canceled more than $1.6 million in television ads set to air next week in eight crucial battleground states, according to an ad tracking service.

The cancellations cover the four biggest states on the battleground map — Pennsylvania, Ohio, Florida and North Carolina — as well as four other states, New Hampshire, Maine, Iowa, and Colorado.

Jason Miller, a senior Trump communications adviser, said on Twitter: “Our data-driven campaign is shifting resources from over-performing markets to new battlegrounds w/in the battlegrounds. Buy is growing.”

Outsiders were skeptical. “This is what the professionals call horseshit,” Dan Pfeiffer, President Obama’s former communications director, tweeted.

Miller described it as an “increased media spend” that is “growing by an extra $1M” and that “state-by-state levels remain roughly the same.”

After the initial cancellation, Trump did begin to purchase new airtime, including buying ads in Wisconsin’s Milwaukee and Madison markets for the first time. That initial buy, for next week, was for just over $70,000. He also bulked up his buy in Columbus, Ohio.

Miller did not respond to a request to describe all the places where they were increasing their ad buys.

The ad cancellations cover the period that begins next Tuesday, and mostly represent smaller markets in the various states.

In Iowa, for instance, there is no reduction yet in the Des Moines market, the state’s largest, or any cuts in Columbus, Cincinnati or Cleveland in Ohio.

Instead, Trump appears to be paring backing in more rural regions, such as the Wilkes Barre and Erie markets in Pennsylvania while maintaining his buys in places like Philadelphia and Pittsburgh.

In critical Florida, Trump is slashing more than $700,000 of his buy next week, reducing his ad reach to only three markets: Tampa, Orlando and Miami, according to a another ad buyer.

The single biggest market for cancellation is West Palm Beach, where Trump is pulling more than $216,000 in scheduled ads. The smallest are two markets in Ohio, Lima and Zanesville, where Trump, canceled $5,000 in each.

Trump could still add more money to his buys before they are set to air next Tuesday, as his campaign has typically purchased its television time at the last possible moment.

Wouldn't trust Pfieffer farther than I could throw him.  Still, I don't think Trump's campaign has thought things through.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #69 on: October 07, 2016, 08:27:12 pm »
Quote from: Frank Cannon on October 07, 2016, 08:04:54 pm
LOL. Good ol' WTF. Always playing it too cool for school. Always saying this political discourse is all beneath you. Always saying you are over all of this party politics bullshit and giving it up.....for all the YEARS you have been posting.

And, his vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #70 on: October 07, 2016, 08:33:58 pm »
Quote from: Weird Tolkienish Figure on October 07, 2016, 08:00:51 pm

Melodramatic? You mean like referring to such a milquetoast character like Romney as "evil"?


Is that a Jesus thing? Strange...

So you don't think legislating abortion and then profiting directly from your own laws is evil? Or being the first guy to legalize gay marriage which went on to destroy a millenia old institution? Really?

Says a lot about you.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #71 on: October 07, 2016, 08:35:33 pm »
Quote from: libertybele on October 07, 2016, 07:59:26 pm
In the past couple of days I have seen a couple of anit-Hillary/Pro-Trump ads, but the ads are from different sources other than from the Trump campaign. I don't think he assumes he has this election in the bag, but rather he has no intention of winning.
The perception that we actually have a choice in this election has merely been an illusion.

Just my opinion.

the only pro-Trump ads I've seen are from PACs here. I've seen a lot of Hillary ad.

Interestingly though, Gary Johnson is buying a LOT of radio ads on local talk radio stations during Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc. Almost every third commercial set is a Johnson commercial and he is positioning those to go after Conservatives.

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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #72 on: October 07, 2016, 08:37:58 pm »
Quote from: Sanguine on October 07, 2016, 08:22:22 pm
Yes, Romney did so well last time.

That way they can say "See? We tried to salvage this but it was too late! It's the conservatives fault Hillary won! Because as you know, Every Trump fanatic calls themselves 'the real conservatives' while backing their liberal.

So guess who will be saddled with all the blame? Hillary wins, Trump and his fellow leftists made it happen and WE get to be the fall guy in the public's mind. Almost like it was planned that way. If only someone realized sooner! Actually a lot of someones did. But people, again, 'knew better'.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #73 on: October 07, 2016, 08:38:04 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on October 07, 2016, 08:35:33 pm
the only pro-Trump ads I've seen are from PACs here. I've seen a lot of Hillary ad.

Interestingly though, Gary Johnson is buying a LOT of radio ads on local talk radio stations during Rush, Hannity, Levin, etc. Almost every third commercial set is a Johnson commercial and he is positioning those to go after Conservatives.


Last night... or the night before I was watching TV and saw a Trump anti-Hillary ad, with Trump saying at the end "I'm Donald Trump and I approve this message". I thought it was odd to see Trump act like a regular politician like that.


First one ever that I've seen.
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Re: Trump campaign is canceling hundreds of thousands of dollars in advertising in Fla, NC, OH, possibly other states, per two buying sources.
« Reply #74 on: October 07, 2016, 08:42:33 pm »
Quote from: mystery-ak on October 07, 2016, 06:00:55 pm
Rush saying he is canceling these ad buys because he is way ahead in these rural areas..

Jacksonville and WPB are "rural areas"?
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