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The evidence your statement is silly beyond belief...Ted Cruz, along with a significant number of Nationally known #NeverTrumpers have declared they will now vote for Donald Trump.

So he sold out to a liberal. Nothing conservative there. It's the opposite of conservative. He and they abandoned principle to support the opposite of what they preached all their careers.

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First learn the system you vote under, then vote. If you vote with no understanding of the system, you are damaging your country.

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so, with all your experience and depth fully functional, WHO R U VOTING FOR?

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Progressive doesn't mean liberal exclusively.

Teddy Roosevelt was "conservative" in many respects but was every bit the progressive scumbag as Woodrow Wilson.

Ridiculous statement. Wilson was not even a pimple on TR butt. Wilson presidency was an unmitigated disaster for the republic and the world.

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so, with all your experience and depth fully functional, WHO R U VOTING FOR?

So far, Probably Castle. Might write in someone. Whoever it is, it will be on the conservative side. It won't be Trump and it won't be Clinton. Now that you are aware of that you can stop accusing me of Hillary support.

If you continue, I'll just assume you aren't bright enough to understand English. It would be a safe assumption. The alternative is that you just insist on lying.
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@mystery-ak

Hey Myst, here's yet another thread filled with the 'you support Hillary bullshit. So as requested, here you go.

Same people. Same accusation. They arent listening to you.

Calling mommy are we? Truth hurts huh?

Well if that post get deleted I'll have to find another site to post at.

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This is bad politics for Trump even if he is legally correct. For those defending him, think of how we/they would react if Hillary was discovered doing the same thing after tax shaming others

She would get no pass from us and neither should Trump just because he has the sacred "R" label after his name
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Calling mommy are we? Truth hurts huh?

Well if that post get deleted I'll have to find another site to post at.

@Norm Lenhart

Take it up with mommy. She made the request. I'd personally rather just tell you what human garbage I think you are and be done with it. But the last time I did that I got 'censored' to use kittycat's term.
Guess it goes both ways. Which strips yet another talking point from the Trump crew.

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I always laugh when people throw out the 'if you oppose Trump you support Hillary' line. Other than the fact that it fails 5th grade logic (I guess we can blame public schools for this), it is laughable on its face for the following reasons:

Only one candidate (other than Hillary herself):

Only one other candidate donated to Hillary Clinton's senate run.
Only one other candidate donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Only one other candidate said what a wonderful job Hillary did as Senator.
Only one other candidate said he thought Hillary would make a great President.
Only one other candidates said he thought Bill Clinton was one of the greatest Presidents.
Only one other candidate was calling for a one-world financial system that eliminates borders just three years ago.
Only one other candidate funded the Gang of 8, Harry Reid, Al Sharpton, and every major enemy of the Tea Party.
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Only one other candidate discussed running for President with his opponent's husband prior to entering the race.


...and those who oppose this guy are accused of helping Hillary when in fact, Trump himself is the one who has helped Hillary more than anyone else in this race.

Opposing Clinton means opposing all things Clinton, including the guy who helped her and her husband get into and stay in power, even if he is pretending to oppose her now.

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This is bad politics for Trump even if he is legally correct. For those defending him, think of how we/they would react if Hillary was discovered doing the same thing after tax shaming others

She would get no pass from us and neither should Trump just because he has the sacred "R" label after his name

So you don't think Trump should be allowed to take perfectly legal deductions? You think he should pay more in taxes than he legally owes?

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Ridiculous statement. Wilson was not even a pimple on TR butt. Wilson presidency was an unmitigated disaster for the republic and the world.

So TR was a greater progressive than Wilson?

After all TR was a co founder of The Progressive Party and was proudly supportive of some of the worst things that have happened in America like the 17th amendment, minimum wage laws, and social security.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_Party_(United_States,_1912)#The_Progressive_convention_and_platform

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So you don't think Trump should be allowed to take perfectly legal deductions? You think he should pay more in taxes than he legally owes?

Can you read or do you normally lash out emotionally? Read my response again and then read my tagline
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‘I am working for you now’: Trump delivers lengthy defense after tax filing leaks

I can't tell you how long I have been waiting for someone to go on irrational twitter rants about has been Miss Universes.

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I'll probably get banned here too, since I intend to use every argument I can to get folks to vote Trump, including the one you referenced.

So you take pride in, to the point you admit you'll lie to accomplish it, supporting Hillary Clinton's benefactor.

Nice...

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I always laugh when people throw out the 'if you oppose Trump you support Hillary' line. Other than the fact that it fails 5th grade logic (I guess we can blame public schools for this), it is laughable on its face for the following reasons:

Only one candidate (other than Hillary herself):

Only one other candidate donated to Hillary Clinton's senate run.
Only one other candidate donated to the Clinton Foundation.
Only one other candidate said what a wonderful job Hillary did as Senator.
Only one other candidate said he thought Hillary would make a great President.
Only one other candidates said he thought Bill Clinton was one of the greatest Presidents.
Only one other candidate was calling for a one-world financial system that eliminates borders just three years ago.
Only one other candidate funded the Gang of 8, Harry Reid, Al Sharpton, and every major enemy of the Tea Party.
and
Only one other candidate discussed running for President with his opponent's husband prior to entering the race.


...and those who oppose this guy are accused of helping Hillary when in fact, Trump himself is the one who has helped Hillary more than anyone else in this race.

Opposing Clinton means opposing all things Clinton, including the guy who helped her and her husband get into and stay in power, even if he is pretending to oppose her now.

And....only one candidate liked the Clintons enough to invite them to his wedding. 

Same candidate that also donated to Dirty Harry Reid and Chucky Schumer.  Only a liberal would do that.  And I hate, loathe and detest liberals (now called "progressive Democrats").

No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

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I always laugh when people throw out the 'if you oppose Trump you support Hillary' line. Other than the fact that it fails 5th grade logic (I guess we can blame public schools for this), it is laughable on its face for the following reasons:

Maybe things work differently in your universe but it this one, barring some terrible unforeseen event, the next president of the USA will be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. If you are inclined to vote conservative (r) and you do not vote Trump you are by default helping Hillary. The reverse is also true.

Voting 3rd party is throwing your vote away since the contest is between Hillary and Trump.

Wishing and hoping will not change that dynamic. It is either Hillary or Trump there is no other outcome possible.

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:silly:  All your dreams are coming true in Trump.



More like....all our worst nightmares. 

Well, it is the season of Halloween, after all.   :laugh:
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No quarter given to the enemy within...ever.

You can vote your way into socialism, but you have to shoot your way out of it.

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:silly:  All your dreams are coming true in Trump.



Oh I can see him running around his golden toilet with a gold scepter, a gold crown, a gown and ruby red high heels chanting "I'm a pretty princess!" Easily.

If he'd just click those heels a couple times and go back to NYC, I think whats left of America would appreciate it too.

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This is bad politics for Trump even if he is legally correct.

That distinction captures it very effectively @LMAO. To my knowledge there is no accusation that Trump broke any tax laws, and few of us would argue that a loss should not enjoy this tax treatment.  No one should be criticized for managing their own self-interest legally.

The problem is that it reveals again Trump is purely talk.  His purported business "a-cumin" is hogwash, and he is certainly not a "genius" for taking this loss on his taxes.  Yet those fictional business skills are the *entire* basis of his argument for having any credibility as a candidate.

This is the perfect set up for Hillary in the next debate, because it gives her the opportunity to push a button that Trump cannot ignore - his self-image as a success.  All she has to do is allude to this as evidence that Trump is not a savvy business man and he'll be off to the races for days thereafter with even more of delusions of grandeur as a psychological reaction to his insecurities.
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The future of my adopted country is more important than the hurt feelings of a bunch of former republicans – "never to return" – reminded that their constant lies, phony headlines and distorted arguments attacking the republican nominee lend tacit support to the DNC.

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Maybe things work differently in your universe but it this one, barring some terrible unforeseen event, the next president of the USA will be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. If you are inclined to vote conservative (r) and you do not vote Trump you are by default helping Hillary. The reverse is also true.

Voting 3rd party is throwing your vote away since the contest is between Hillary and Trump.

Wishing and hoping will not change that dynamic. It is either Hillary or Trump there is no other outcome possible.

@AbaraXas

You might wanna join Happy for a remedial civics course.

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The future of my adopted country is more important than the hurt feelings of a bunch of former republicans – "never to return" – reminded that their constant lies, phony headlines and distorted arguments attacking the republican nominee lend tacit support to the DNC.

Your adopted country? That explains a lot. You simply don't understand how the country that took you in works. Or you hate it. Or both.

What your statements are though, are lies as you have been corrected repeatedly.

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Can you read or do you normally lash out emotionally? Read my response again and then read my tagline

And you seem to have a problem answering direct simple questions.  And no I would not be racking Hillary over the goals for taking perfectly legal deductions. Not once have I attacked her (or Bill) for deducting used under wear donated to charity. Uck!

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Maybe things work differently in your universe but it this one, barring some terrible unforeseen event, the next president of the USA will be either Hillary Clinton or Donald Trump. If you are inclined to vote conservative (r) and you do not vote Trump you are by default helping Hillary. The reverse is also true.

Voting 3rd party is throwing your vote away since the contest is between Hillary and Trump.

Wishing and hoping will not change that dynamic. It is either Hillary or Trump there is no other outcome possible.

@AbaraXas

And you are wrong, both logically as well as mathematically. First, the logic issue is called a false dichotomy or false dilemma. Seeing that is generally a red flag of a con or an invalid manipulation. (common among politicians, cult leaders, and con artists, but I repeat myself)
http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?FalseDichotomy

But the fact of the matter, voting your values, even if it is for a third party is never a wasted vote, nor is it 'helping the other guy'

It is all about the electoral college and understanding how that works. A third candidate does not need to be on the ballots in all 50 states to be competitive nor to make an impact.
All the third parties need to do is keep the two major party candidates from reaching 270 EVs.

If no candidate reaches 270 electoral votes, the race is decided by the House of Representatives for president and Senate for VP. The House makes their choice based on the top 3 EV winners (in contention). But it gets even more interesting if the House fails to come to a decision, then the President is the VP selected by Senate..

Considering how closely divided this country is, that could be easy. Remember Bush v Gore; Bush won, 271 to 266 electoral votes. Only two EV's shifting to a (or multiple) third party candidates could have meant that neither major party candidate would win outright, it would go to the House. In the Bush v Gore case, a third party only getting on the ballot in ONE state could have theoretically made them competitive. (direct example, if Trump and Hillary split as closely as Bush v Gore, BUT Gary Johnson wins Utah (he is within the margin of error for the lead there), that would prevent Trump or Hillary from getting the 270 EVs).

Give the 12th Amendment a read.

This is like a big red reset button.

This is also not unheard of. This has happened twice before in our history, so out of 44 presidents, those aren't bad odds. Especially in a year like this.

So no, a third party vote is not a wasted vote. Vote your conscience, not the game.


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So you take pride in, to the point you admit you'll lie to accomplish it, supporting Hillary Clinton's benefactor.

Nice...

Feel free to point out to me where I have lied. Thanks in advance (tia).