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That's what I heard, this woman had sex on live tv, the farm or something. Pitiful.

Like I said, beauty pageant queens in Latin America have quite a checkered history and sadly, some have even ended up dead, one of the recent Miss Venezuelas, 2014 I think, and a Miss Honduras from a few years ago.

Latin America seems to have really had a downturn.

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The Mexican and S. American drug lords consider beauty pageant queens quite the jewel in their perverted, corrupt, sick crowns.

If you think about it, so does hillary's wife, bill clinton.

Why do the people on this web site perpetually DEFEND HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON?

I say they are neocons.  They constantly scour the web for trash on Trump, while the entire globe couldn't hold the trash on both hillary and bill - AND THEY REFUSE TO REPORT it, and demonize those who do.  I call those people neocons:  democrats in cheap republican rental tuxedos dressed up like they own the world when their world is about to come crumbling down around their lying, deceitful, dubious and manipulating heads.  THEY CAN'T STAND IT!


WHO'S THE DADDY: Alicia Machado did not deny that her daughter - who she has taken on the red carpet at a number of
showbusiness events, including the Hollywood premiere in June of Finding Nemo - was fathered by a wanted drug lord until after his arrest.



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The Mexican and S. American drug lords consider beauty pageant queens quite the jewel in their perverted, corrupt, sick crowns.

If you think about it, so does hillary's wife, bill clinton.
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Why do the people on this web site perpetually DEFEND HILLARY AND BILL CLINTON?
Are you logged in? I haven't noticed that phenomenon. They both suck.
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I say they are neocons.
Bill and Hillary are neocons? hoonoo?
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  They constantly scour the web for trash on Trump, while the entire globe couldn't hold the trash on both hillary and bill - AND THEY REFUSE TO REPORT it, and demonize those who do.
"They" who? You want to start with Hillary getting kicked out of the Watergate bit? Rose Law Firm? Whitewater? Mena AR? Dead kids on railroad tracks? The Waco Massacre, complete with 4 dead former bodyguards with identical head wounds and lots of men, women, and children gassed and cremated in their own home? Vince Foster? Web Hubbel (Chelsea still has his jawline)? Ron Brown's Body? Bimbo eruptions and taking one for her team? Nine hundred plus FBI Files? Stealing the silverware from the White House (and other stuff). The Clinton Foundation and pay for play? Six figure speaking fees? Ripping off Stan Lee? Dropping out so Obama could win, Birth Certificate follies, Selling weapons to Al Qaida? Benghazi (where she could not command any military units to do anything but likely set it all up)? Health issues? A  career of lies, to be sure, and well practiced public sector evil, but where do you want us to start? You have people here who have been following her evil for decades, now. We are well familiar with the litany of her sins. We don't buy a plate at her fundraisers, we don't donate to her campaigns. and we don't support her. There is enough dirt on her that no hyperbole is required to show she's a monster. In fact, weak cases against her only dilute the evil there, they don't present it in light of all her 'lifetime of accomplishments' and somehow make her seem less evil, so stick to the facts.
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I call those people neocons:  democrats in cheap republican rental tuxedos dressed up like they own the world when their world is about to come crumbling down around their lying, deceitful, dubious and manipulating heads.  THEY CAN'T STAND IT!
You can call them plum pudding or hot fudge sundaes for all I care. The most conspicuous "Democrat in a cheap Republican rental tuxedo dressed up like they own the world when the world is about to come crumbling down around their lying, deceitful, dubious and manipulating head" (nice turn of phrase, by the way) is running against her for POTUS.

Alicia Machado is as irrelevant as a Kardashian, with one minor point: she was just another woman Trump flapped his lips about in a derogatory fashion.

Those optics, especially in view of his behaviour toward women in general, stink. Trump doesn't have to have a pageant queen to attack, he'll go after former CEOs (Fiorina), even other candidate's wives (do I really have to tell you?), and how will that play against some head of state somewhere when the inevitable happens and he flaps his lips again and insults them or their wife?

So before anyone gets all riled up to stand the messengers against the WALL!, maybe you should step back and look at the wide shot, because this sh*t isn't playing well in prime time. Claiming the obvious, that his diarrhea of the mouth is his worst enemy, doesn't make her (Clinton) any better, and it's a lot easier to have that picture in focus from the position of a 'third party' voter.

Attacking Clinton or Machado instead of blaming it on brash youth (his own) and apologizing for ancient transgressions just reinforces the concept that he treats women like sh*t if they don't have direct and ornamental value to him. That's how it looks from the cheap seats, and that's how it is going to affect women voters who aren't dreaming of snuggling up to him.

Is it too much to expect some gentlemanly grace from someone who wants to be President of the United States? People have had the temerity to compare Trump to Reagan, can you imagine, even for a second, Ronald Reagan acting that way?
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Machado didn't kill anyone.  Nor is she a rapist.

Mike Tyson, a rapist, endorsed Donald Trump.

A convicted murderer, Don King, endorsed Trump and has been traveling around & schmoozing with him.

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Machado didn't kill anyone.  Nor is she a rapist.

Mike Tyson, a rapist, endorsed Donald Trump.

A convicted murderer, Don King, endorsed Trump and has been traveling around & schmoozing with him.

Next!

And Hillary is married to a serial rapist and adulterer.
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Former Miss Universe doesn't deny allegations that she was an accomplice to murder
http://www.businessinsider.com/alicia-machado-miss-universe-murder-allegations-2016-9

Her background is shady but that's sort of the way it is in Venezuela, like Mexico.

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That's what I heard, this woman had sex on live tv, the farm or something. Pitiful.

Like I said, beauty pageant queens in Latin America have quite a checkered history and sadly, some have even ended up dead, one of the recent Miss Venezuelas, 2014 I think, and a Miss Honduras from a few years ago.

Latin America seems to have really had a downturn.

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Trump's wife has a checkered history, but that hasn't stopped some from crowing over her as though she were Mother Theresa.

Check your double standard.

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And Hillary is married to a serial rapist and adulterer.

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Very true.  2016 pretty much sucks.

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Trump's wife has a checkered history, but that hasn't stopped some from crowing over her as though she were Mother Theresa.

Check your double standard.
Whatever she may be, tRump's wife did not hang out with Drug Lords, nor was she accussed of being an accomplice to murder, nor did she have sex on live tv.  His wife seems like a decent human being and a good mother so I don't think going after her is a good idea.

I'm beginning to think there is not a place for me.  I do not support the Donald but I'm not going to pretend every little thing he may or may not have done is a big deal.  This woman is slime from the bottom of the ocean.  She was a troublemaker then and she's a trouble maker now.  I have zero respect for her.

I have also never thought the Donald was a racist, sexist, homophobe like a lot of people here apparently do.   I dislike him because of his behavior during the primaries.  The same for his supporters.  I also think he's a liar and crazy. 

I think it's best that  I just quietly leave before the nontRumpers convince me to support the Donald.

Good Luck everybody. **nononono*                             

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Whatever she may be, tRump's wife did not hang out with Drug Lords, nor was she accussed of being an accomplice to murder, nor did she have sex on live tv.  His wife seems like a decent human being and a good mother so I don't think going after her is a good idea.

I'm beginning to think there is not a place for me.  I do not support the Donald but I'm not going to pretend every little thing he may or may not have done is a big deal.  This woman is slime from the bottom of the ocean.  She was a troublemaker then and she's a trouble maker now.  I have zero respect for her.

I have also never thought the Donald was a racist, sexist, homophobe like a lot of people here apparently do.   I dislike him because of his behavior during the primaries.  The same for his supporters.  I also think he's a liar and crazy. 

I think it's best that  I just quietly leave before the nontRumpers convince me to support the Donald.

Good Luck everybody. **nononono*                             

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Trump's wife has a checkered history, but that hasn't stopped some from crowing over her as though she were Mother Theresa.

Check your double standard.

A checkered history can also be being a Goldman Sachs official or working for the Counsel of Foreign Relations like Heidi Cruz or killing someone in a traffic accident like Laura Bush.

Check your double standard.

If there are threads on Melania Trump by all means, I may post in them, I see no need to bring her into it.


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A checkered history can also be being a Goldman Sachs official or working for the Counsel of Foreign Relations like Heidi Cruz or killing someone in a traffic accident like Laura Bush.

Check your double standard.

If there are threads on Melania Trump by all means, I may post in them, I see no need to bring her into it.
So you would say working at a bank or writing a paragraph in a report is the same as manslaughter or posing as a nude model. Well, if that's the case, would it be okay if Trump was running around calling bank tellers "Fat slobs"?

What you don't get (or maybe you do) is that this isn't about anyone but duh Donald and his big, nasty mouth.

Matthew 15:11 (KJV) Not that which goeth into the mouth defileth a man; but that which cometh out of the mouth, this defileth a man.
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Whatever she may be, tRump's wife did not hang out with Drug Lords, nor was she accussed of being an accomplice to murder, nor did she have sex on live tv.  His wife seems like a decent human being and a good mother so I don't think going after her is a good idea.

I'm beginning to think there is not a place for me.  I do not support the Donald but I'm not going to pretend every little thing he may or may not have done is a big deal.  This woman is slime from the bottom of the ocean.  She was a troublemaker then and she's a trouble maker now.  I have zero respect for her.

I agree with corndog.

I have also never thought the Donald was a racist, sexist, homophobe like a lot of people here apparently do.   I dislike him because of his behavior during the primaries.  The same for his supporters.  I also think he's a liar and crazy. 

I think it's best that  I just quietly leave before the nontRumpers convince me to support the Donald.

Good Luck everybody. **nononono*                             
This forum really is a bit of Democratic Underground light, DUMMIE light,

The true conservatives, I thought at least that was a requirement , are far and few.

One trick ponies exist like Jazzhead, One-Ler or Honest John, whose only feat is to accuse others of racism, some other ism or the like.  No evidence of conservatism.  Either calling people fascists or race baiting.

I started putting people on ignore right away, because basically, SmokinJoe, HenryNoel, these people are all cheapshot artists.   I mean, these folks take advantage of free speech to abuse others. That is not what a forum should  be about.



And the nominee, I know if I strongly disagreed with the Republican nominee, I would not take potshots at others and be continuing to run people down.

A lot of phony conservatives.

Perhaps I will visit the top forums; but not the DU light forums.

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This forum really is a bit of Democratic Underground light, DUMMIE light,

The true conservatives, I thought at least that was a requirement , are far and few.

One trick ponies exist like Jazzhead, One-Ler or Honest John, whose only feat is to accuse others of racism, some other ism or the like.  No evidence of conservatism.  Either calling people fascists or race baiting.

I started putting people on ignore right away, because basically, SmokinJoe, HenryNoel, these people are all cheapshot artists.   I mean, these folks take advantage of free speech to abuse others. That is not what a forum should  be about.



And the nominee, I know if I strongly disagreed with the Republican nominee, I would not take potshots at others and be continuing to run people down.

A lot of phony conservatives.

Perhaps I will visit the top forums; but not the DU light forums.

What do you suggest?  Have management throw out everybody on your ignore list?  Would that make you happy?
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This forum really is a bit of Democratic Underground light, DUMMIE light,

The true conservatives, I thought at least that was a requirement , are far and few.

One trick ponies exist like @Jazzhead  , @Once-Ler or @HonestJohn , whose only feat is to accuse others of racism, some other ism or the like.  No evidence of conservatism.  Either calling people fascists or race baiting.

I started putting people on ignore right away, because basically, @Smokin Joe, @Henry Noel , these people are all cheapshot artists.   I mean, these folks take advantage of free speech to abuse others. That is not what a forum should  be about.



And the nominee, I know if I strongly disagreed with the Republican nominee, I would not take potshots at others and be continuing to run people down.

A lot of phony conservatives.

Perhaps I will visit the top forums; but not the DU light forums.
Just hate being called on your  :bsflag:, doncha?

You can't make a substantive argument so now we're all Democrats and this is DU light. 

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Is it too much to expect some gentlemanly grace from someone who wants to be President of the United States? People have had the temerity to compare Trump to Reagan, can you imagine, even for a second, Ronald Reagan acting that way?

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If you look at the majority of posts in 'politics' these people spend 90% of their time ATTACKING DONALD TRUMP.

Ronald Reagan is *not* running against hillary.  We will never have another R.R., nor will we ever have an America as is was back then (proud, independent, free, prosperous, sovereign, loyal, secure, and self-preserving.

What I just mentioned though are exactly what h.r.c. want to wipe what little is left out completely out.

Does George H.W. still have an effect on you?

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Whatever she may be, tRump's wife did not hang out with Drug Lords, nor was she accussed of being an accomplice to murder, nor did she have sex on live tv.  His wife seems like a decent human being and a good mother so I don't think going after her is a good idea.

I'm beginning to think there is not a place for me.  I do not support the Donald but I'm not going to pretend every little thing he may or may not have done is a big deal.  This woman is slime from the bottom of the ocean.  She was a troublemaker then and she's a trouble maker now.  I have zero respect for her.

I have also never thought the Donald was a racist, sexist, homophobe like a lot of people here apparently do.   I dislike him because of his behavior during the primaries.  The same for his supporters.  I also think he's a liar and crazy. 

I think it's best that  I just quietly leave before the nontRumpers convince me to support the Donald.

Good Luck everybody. **nononono*                             

@beandog, I hope you don't leave.  But I remember back during the Clinton administration when conservatives and Republicans insisted that character mattered in a president.  Now it's not a big deal, as you say.

It isn't that I "think" Trump has a sleazy history.  I know it because I've researched the man.  The information is right there for anyone who cares to find it.  If you don't think a man who routinely refers to women as "piece of a##" and who says they should be "treated like s**t" is sexist, well...I don't know what to tell you.  Or, not being a feminist, maybe instead of sexist I should just say that he lacks decency.

This Machado woman isn't the issue.  She has simply served as yet another vehicle to expose Trump's longstanding history of contempt for women.  When Trump supporters bring up this woman's past, it is absolutely fair game to remind them that the woman who wants to be First Lady has a pretty trashy past, herself.  She may be a good mother---as Machado may be---but she simply is not fit for the White House. 

It's also perfectly fair to mention the fact that Trump is traveling around with a convicted murderer.

You'll vote as you see fit, but I personally can't imagine letting a bunch of people on a forum influence such a serious decision.

Hope you hang around.


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A checkered history can also be being a Goldman Sachs official or working for the Counsel of Foreign Relations like Heidi Cruz or killing someone in a traffic accident like Laura Bush.

Check your double standard.

If there are threads on Melania Trump by all means, I may post in them, I see no need to bring her into it.

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Like you just did with Heidi Cruz and Laura Bush, lol?

Don't expect to get all outraged about the Machado woman's moral history if you don't want that of the prospective First Lady brought up.  Objecting to one but not the other is pure hypocrisy.

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If you look at the majority of posts in 'politics' these people spend 90% of their time ATTACKING DONALD TRUMP.

Ronald Reagan is *not* running against hillary.  We will never have another R.R., nor will we ever have an America as is was back then (proud, independent, free, prosperous, sovereign, loyal, secure, and self-preserving.

What I just mentioned though are exactly what h.r.c. want to wipe what little is left out completely out.

Does George H.W. still have an effect on you?
You are right, what the Republican Party is running against Hillary Clinton is definitely not Ronald Reagan.
However as a Conservative, I thought Conservative Republicans considered Ronald Reagan the closest thing to the ideal candidate in, well, since Ronald Reagan.

I fully realize Trump isn't Reagan, nor Jesus, nor Leonidas at the pass, nor any of the other better persons in the past he has been compared to, but one would expect an applicant for the job of President of the United States of America to behave with a degree of civility appropriate for the position.

As for not ever having an America as it was during Reagan's day ("proud, independent, free, prosperous, sovereign, loyal, secure, and self-preserving."), I seriously believe that is up to us.

If we vote for the sort of crap America is becoming, we'll get more of it, just as subsidizing the poor has led to an increase of overweight poor people.

That is why, this election I'm not voting for it, but for someone who comes one heck of a lot closer to the ideals of that bygone America, in an attempt to bring it back. It's still here, plenty of people want it, but for some silly reason they have been convinced they have to drink from a punch bowl with a turd swimming in it.  We don't. There are other beverages available.

I really don't get the GHW comment. I was not a fan of him then, and became less so during his term. When the Congress was talking about raising the gas tax, I sent him a letter showing how a sliding scale tariff on imported oil that phased out at $20/bbl (which amounted to a price support for domestic oil) would stimulate domestic exploration, increase jobs, energy security, and provide revenue for the US as well. His office replied with a form letter thanking me for my concern about farm policy. (Some jerk read the zip code and sent the reply, obviously the letter never was read, even by a staffer). I voted for the lesser evil, but if you had driven a stake in the political ground just then, the 'lesser evil' kept getting farther toward evil, as far as I am concerned, at least in terms of the Constitution, supporting and expanding programs that are not Constitutionally authorized, among other things. I view GHW Bush as the first step away from RR, who while he may not have been perfect, at least had a grace about him that did not unnecessarily create enemies, but instead gained their respect.

I have repeatedly said, the nominee is not qualified for the position, nor is his main opponent. I will not vote for either of them.

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Whatever she may be, tRump's wife did not hang out with Drug Lords, nor was she accussed of being an accomplice to murder, nor did she have sex on live tv.  His wife seems like a decent human being and a good mother so I don't think going after her is a good idea.

I'm beginning to think there is not a place for me.  I do not support the Donald but I'm not going to pretend every little thing he may or may not have done is a big deal.  This woman is slime from the bottom of the ocean.  She was a troublemaker then and she's a trouble maker now.  I have zero respect for her.

I have also never thought the Donald was a racist, sexist, homophobe like a lot of people here apparently do.   I dislike him because of his behavior during the primaries.  The same for his supporters.  I also think he's a liar and crazy. 

I think it's best that  I just quietly leave before the nontRumpers convince me to support the Donald.

Good Luck everybody. **nononono*                             
The thing is, we've never considered her to be anything more than just some woman Donald Trump harassed—one of very many. The issue was never about this 20-year-old spat.

In a normal environment, the consistent pattern of Donald Trump grossly overreacting to criticism with deeply personal smears like the ones being pushed against Machado would be laughable. Yet the Trump caucus (with chief minister of propaganda Sundance at the helm) is not only embracing them, but pushing them.

I mentioned in the other thread how this looked like a Roger Stone hit. I also see the signature of the misogynist alt-right at play here. Emboldened by the Trump campaign's approach to sexual harassment accusations, they go to the extreme and are proud to shame the victims. Look, I understand how feminism at its most obnoxious hurts guys. I've been at the end of it. Yet counterstriking with this kind of attack is the ultimate in immature behavior and only justifies why the women rejected them in the first place.
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Machado didn't kill anyone.

Can you say the same about Mrs. Clinton?

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Can you say the same about Mr. Clinton?


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this has got to be one of the best pro-clinton web sites anywhere

You do know that lying is a sin, don't you??

Oh, yeah.......... that's right....... Donald TRUMP is your Jesus, and he's pathological......

I'm going to repeat for the record (not for your feeble mind).......... there is not ONE PERSON on this forum supporting Clinton.

Stop lying, even if in your Trump religion, it's not a sin......
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I cannot, which is one reason of many she'll never get my vote.

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I cannot.  Good thing I never voted for him.

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Can you say the same about Mrs. Clinton?

Can you say the same about Mr. Clinton?


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