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Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« on: September 23, 2016, 07:36:46 pm »
http://www.dailywire.com/news/9429/breaking-cruz-endorse-trump-ben-shapiro?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_content=news&utm_campaign=twitterbenshapiro#

BREAKING: Cruz to Endorse Trump

BY: BEN SHAPIRO SEPTEMBER 23, 2016

In a move that surprised many Republicans but few political insiders, Senator Ted Cruz (R-TX) was expected to announce on Friday that he would support Donald Trump’s bid for the presidency against Hillary Clinton. For weeks, members of the Cruz team had been hinting at such an announcement; Cruz himself had quietly hinted that he was reconsidering his publicly non-committal stance on the candidate who labeled him “Lyin’ Ted,” suggested he was a serial adulterer, called his wife ugly and his father a conspirator in the murder of John F. Kennedy – a man Cruz himself had called a “pathological liar,” a non-conservative charlatan.

But on Friday, two days before the first debate, Politico broke the news – seemingly confirmed by multiple Cruz advisors and allies – that Cruz would endorse Trump. It’s a bad, if understandable, political move. Here’s what you need to know.

 
Cruz Has Experienced More Pressure Than Anyone Else Over Trump. Cruz has been hammered by former allies in the media and the Republican Party for not openly embracing Trump. That criticism existed before the Republican National Convention, but escalated dramatically in the days afterward (more on that in a moment). Cruz’s donors shied away from him; some of his biggest boosters in talk radio began ripping him regularly. The Republican National Committee chairman Reince Priebus openly threatened his future presidential prospects. Trump and his allies suggested primarying Cruz in the Texas Senate race. This put Cruz in a rough spot, obviously. With a few words, he thinks he can end all the pressure. The calculation is that simple – and it deserves at least a bit of sympathy.

This Is A Poor Political Move. It’s fully understandable, as I’ve said before, to say you’ll vote for Trump but continue to acknowledge that he’s a disaster area for conservatives. But that doesn’t appear to be what’s coming. Cruz is expected to announce that he’s been surprised by Trump’s new message discipline, even as Trump embraces Vladimir Putin, government-sponsored maternity leave, and a plan to cram down tuition price controls. That puts him less in the “hold-your-nose-and-vote-Trump” category than the “Trump Train” category.

That’s partially due to the timing. The timing appears to undercut Cruz’s entire image as a man of principle in a world of dirty politics. He’s using Trump’s new announcement of Senator Mike Lee (R-UT) as a potential Supreme Court pick as a fig leaf for the move, but everyone can see that it’s a fig leaf. The move appears transparently political, not principled. Principled support for Trump could have come before the convention…or at the convention…or in the weeks immediately following the convention. To jump on board two days before the debates begin, at a time when Trump is clearly ratcheting up pressure on #NeverTrumpers to jump aboard, seems manipulative. It seems even more manipulative given Cruz’s early warmth toward Trump, when he thought he could ride Trump’s coattails to the nomination; his break with Trump, which seemed principled; and now his re-embrace of Trump, just in time for the election.


Cruz Takes Real Risk By Endorsing Trump. Cruz’s Trump endorsement is risky not just because he risks fracturing his base – hoping, presumably, that they’ll forget about his endorsement if Trump loses, and grudgingly acknowledge his correctness if Trump wins – but because Trump could destroy him. Trump’s done that before. As I reported, Cruz’s speech at the RNC was designed to be an overture to Trump – a quasi-endorsement that didn’t explicitly provide support for Trump, but clearly paved the way for such support. Cruz negotiated that language in advance with Trump. Trump knew about it. And then Trump used the vagueness of the speech as an opportunity to cast Cruz publicly as a traitor, sending his minions to the convention floor to whip up boos before popping into the convention himself like a WWE hero to Cruz’s villain.

The same thing could happen here. Cruz has negotiated deals with Trump before, like the RNC deal; Trump violated the deal. Cruz could be putting his head on the chopping block, Ned Stark style, only for Trump to go Full Joffrey and behead him. After all, Trump said after the RNC that he wouldn’t accept Cruz’s endorsement. Kellyanne Conway will undoubtedly be trying to pry Trump’s phone from his fingers in the moments after Cruz submits.

So, in the end, what’s the outcome likely to be? Cruz won’t move many voters over to Trump – most Cruz voters who haven’t moved over to Trump supported Cruz out of principle, not out of personal loyalty to him, and they won’t be persuaded to move to Trump now. They’ll just feel that their guy capitulated because the establishment forced him to kneel before Zod. Cruz will have undercut his own image; Trump won’t be able to help gloating.

So here’s Cruz’s bet: if Trump wins, he’ll have been on the winning team; if Trump loses, he won’t be blamed for the loss. That’s true so far as it goes. But because of how Cruz played his hand, he’ll be seen less as a reluctant man pushing Trump to victory than a fellow who chose expediency over principle. That’s actually rather tragic, since Cruz is a man of principle victimized by both a system that crushes principle and a belief that he can still manipulate that system to his own ends. He can’t. And he’d be better off acknowledging that simple fact, and standing with the principles he supposedly believes.
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2016, 07:40:35 pm »
Cruz put a statement up on his Facebook, saying that he would vote for Trump.

You're right, just another political animal.  :shrug:
Let it burn.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2016, 07:41:29 pm »
Don't blame me - I voted for Kasich!
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2016, 07:43:17 pm »
Gabriel Malor ‏@gabrielmalor  7m7 minutes ago
"This man is a pathological liar." (May 2016)
"I encourage you to vote for him." (Sept. 2016)


Gabriel Schoenfeld ‏@gabeschoenfeld  10m10 minutes ago
Cruz breaks a habit: “I am not in the habit of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my father"
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2016, 07:48:29 pm »
F'ing sell out. 

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2016, 07:50:24 pm »

http://www.kltv.com/story/33173954/ted-cruz-announces-endorsement-of-donald-trump

Ted Cruz announces endorsement of Donald Trump

Published:Friday, September 23rd 2016, 12:33 pm PDT
Stephanie Frazier



Well that sucks!


I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2016, 07:50:49 pm »
Don't blame me - I voted for Kasich!

 :silly:


I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2016, 07:51:02 pm »
Makes it easier to give anyone in the GOP the middle finger and work instead to build a Conservative party that is outside the corruptocracy.
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2016, 07:54:43 pm »
Just another modern version of this:



Nothing more.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2016, 07:57:47 pm »
Sigh.

Now who is there left to respect in Washington?

No one it seems.
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #10 on: September 23, 2016, 07:59:19 pm »

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« Reply #11 on: September 23, 2016, 07:59:36 pm »
He probably doesn't want to deal with the whining after Trump loses to a corpse. 

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #12 on: September 23, 2016, 07:59:46 pm »
Trump got his endorsement.  Too bad he won't get the votes to go along with it.

I will not vote for Cheeto Jesus.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #13 on: September 23, 2016, 08:01:18 pm »
In this case, yes.  In other cases, no.  Still, this is enough for me to dump him in the future.  I have spent HOURS AND HOURS defending that man.  For what?  Now he goes and does something like this.  Nope.  I'm moving on.  Have a nice life Ted Cruz.  Enjoy chumming with those who actually hate you while you stab your supporters in the back.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #14 on: September 23, 2016, 08:03:45 pm »
Anybody think this is going to make all those undecided women voters flock to Trump?  I don't think so.
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #15 on: September 23, 2016, 08:06:54 pm »
Actually it is the#Never Trumpers who have chose ego and childish petulance over principals. Reagan had words for the Hate Trump Always squad.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #16 on: September 23, 2016, 08:08:43 pm »
Tim Carney ‏@TPCarney  4m4 minutes ago
"You don't get to be Trump's partner. Join him, and you become his manservant.
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #17 on: September 23, 2016, 08:19:38 pm »
Anybody think this is going to make all those undecided women voters flock to Trump?  I don't think so.
Won't make they all vote, yet it will make some of them vote. Need all the votes we can get to beat killary.


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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #18 on: September 23, 2016, 08:21:17 pm »
This being an opinion piece, it's being moved to the appropriate category in the forum.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #19 on: September 23, 2016, 08:21:38 pm »
Won't make they all vote, yet it will make some of them vote. Need all the votes we can get to beat killary.

Doubtful.  Cruz had worse numbers among women than Trump had.
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #20 on: September 23, 2016, 08:24:57 pm »
Actually it is the#Never Trumpers who have chose ego and childish petulance over principals. Reagan had words for the Hate Trump Always squad.

By Ronald Reagan in his autobiography An American Life

When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn’t like it. “Compromise” was a dirty word to them and they wouldn’t face the fact that we couldn’t get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don’t get it all, some said, don’t take anything. I’d learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: ‘I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.’ If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that’s what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.


Shhhh.

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Especially if it involves Reagan.

They will go into cognitive dissonance, have meltdowns, demand their safespace, and eventually get into a circle where they can cry, crab, give group hugs, support each other in their meltdown, and then point fingers outside their group.

Watch. They will be here in ...3......      ....2.......    ......


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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #21 on: September 23, 2016, 08:25:33 pm »
Ben Shapiro ‏@benshapiro  3m3 minutes ago
Cruz called McConnell a liar on the Senate floor. Now he's relying on McConnell to ram through a Trump SCOTUS pick? Gimme a break.


Allahpundit ‏@allahpundit  5m5 minutes ago
Cruz better never complain about McConnell again. The new standard for acceptable GOP policy apparently is “slightly better than the Dems”
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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #22 on: September 23, 2016, 08:45:08 pm »
Today, Ted Cruz proved Donald Trump right on one topic: he really was Lyin' Ted all along.
Let it burn.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #23 on: September 23, 2016, 10:13:46 pm »
Don't blame me - I voted for Kasich!

I voted for Rubio.  I have no stake in this.

And the props I gave Cruz for taking a stand... withdrawn.

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Re: Cruz chooses expediency over principle
« Reply #24 on: September 23, 2016, 10:22:57 pm »
Actually it is the#Never Trumpers who have chose ego and childish petulance over principals.

The Pharisees accused Jesus of being a demon too because he would not compromise his principles with their traditions.

We Nevertrump stand in good company.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775