Cruz warms to Trump

[montanajoe]

They are liberals. There's nothing more to understand. They meet every criteria.

Lie? Check
Promote violence? Check
Have plantation mentality? Check
Support liberal policies? Check.
Support a liberal candidate?Check.

Nothing hard to understand at all.

@Norm Lenhart

I'm not sure I'd call them liberals in the traditional sense. The liberals have been pretty successful in advancing their political agenda over the last 60 years and they did that by welcoming their "natural" constituencies. They know where the votes are and they don't go out of their way to alienate those voters who might be persuadable as opposed to the rabid Trump supporter....

[Norm Lenhart]

Yet down they went and their country was plundered raped and burnt to the ground... but hey, made a good show of it.

I too am pissed at the gope, and fear trump would just validate them, reach across the isle... and make socialist USA come true. Maybe with a Hillary election that same gope will find a spine and actually oppose...snicker. Then in 2018 we can elect 60 some plus of them and impose gope will on Hillary.

Or maybe we elect trump and he does some of what he says...snicker maybe at least better SCOTUS picks, deregulation, tax cuts, stoping the muslim/mexican invasion.  Maybe we get that.

If Ted were to believe that trump can be used for such. That I will believe. And limited government weathers a trump presidency.

Who knows...maybe we are wrong.

I'd note as we speak Charlotte is burning. I'd note the AZ courts just ruled changing a diaper properly is sexual assault. I'd also note this has not been America in over 8 years. So there isn't a whole lot to save but the ideas that built it the first time, for those who come after us to build from. If we abandon those on fear votes then we will have lost America ENTIRELY.

[Fantom]

Funny avatar Rat...I enjoyed that.

[Fantom]

I'd note as we speak Charlotte is burning. I'd note the AZ courts just ruled changing a diaper properly is sexual assault. I'd also note this has not been America in over 8 years. So there isn't a whole lot to save but the ideas that built it the first time, for those who come after us to build from. If we abandon those on fear votes then we will have lost America ENTIRELY.

Oh, blacks have been burning down their areas since the 60's and before. Nothing new under the sun.

And yes, the sickness deepens. Cultural rot... the west is dying. Hope there is a Phoenix at the end of the progressive rainbow.

It has been a pleasure Norm, and I really mean that, to have a civil conversation with you.. and others tonight. It's my bedtime as I am an early 4:00 Am riser.. love to meet the sunrise, no fear in this voter.... maybe a bit more Machiavellian(which BTW is given a bad rap..;^}  ) at times than you ... but  it is all good.

[HoustonSam]

So there isn't a whole lot to save but the ideas that built it the first time, for those who come after us to build from. If we abandon those on fear votes then we will have lost America ENTIRELY.

@Norm Lenhart I'm anti-Trump myself but I had not thought of it in these terms. I would humbly suggest replacing "ideas" with "ideals" however.

Only the ideals themselves remain; voting for anything less would mean that even the ideals are lost.

[bilo]

I won't vote for Trump no matter what.  I would lose respect for Cruz if he endorses Trump.

Same here!

[geronl]

@geronl

Jeff Roe was Cruz's campaign manager.

was is the operable word, now he supports the trashy guy

[Fishrrman]

240b wrote above:
"My point is that NeverTrump is only indirectly about Trump. Many of these same people would have been as equally NeverCruz had he been the nominee. We can see that by the reaction to this report."

Well stated.

What are the Cruziples gonna do if he comes out whole hog for da Trumper?

They'll be tearin' themselves inside out, jumpin' and a-wailin' !

[Silver Pines]

was is the operable word, now he supports the trashy guy

@geronl

He does?  From what I've read, he's still working in some kind of capacity for Ted and is planning to help him run again in 2020.  I haven't seen him say he supports Trump.

[Norm Lenhart]

@Norm Lenhart I'm anti-Trump myself but I had not thought of it in these terms. I would humbly suggest replacing "ideas" with "ideals" however.

Only the ideals themselves remain; voting for anything less would mean that even the ideals are lost.

I was using it interchangeably but in reality you are 100% right.

[catfish1957]

Don't endorse Trump Ted!!!!!   You will lose a lot of respect from the conservative community.

[Silver Pines]

Steve Deace's twitter timeline is one long rant....I can't find the end of it.  He's asking people to tweet Cruz and ask him to hold the line.  He and Ted talk, so I believe he knows something.

Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  2h2 hours ago
Let's just say I have it on good authority this is more likely than ever before, and that's why I'm sounding the alarm in advance.


Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  3h3 hours ago
I think it makes perfect political sense to endorse a guy likely at any moment to emasculate and embarrass you afterwards.


Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  3h3 hours ago West Des Moines, IA
It's not about endorsing him. It's about the political folly of standing apart and then caving later for nothing in return.


Steve Deace ‏@SteveDeaceShow  2h2 hours ago
Agree. Ted would do it because he thought it was right, get nothing in return, and be ripped for being self-serving anyway. No win scenario

[Frank Cannon]

Damn it people. Cruz is the only real voice out there trying to save the internet from full out control from the Globalists and Trump seems receptive of his work. I see no reason why Cruz can't compliment him for finally picking the right side of an issue and try to get as many main stream voices on board as possible. Like it or not, Trump is a loud voice right now in the news cycles and can help stop this awful idea.

[Silver Pines]

Damn it people. Cruz is the only real voice out there trying to save the internet from full out control from the Globalists and Trump seems receptive of his work. I see no reason why Cruz can't compliment him for finally picking the right side of an issue and try to get as many main stream voices on board as possible. Like it or not, Trump is a loud voice right now in the news cycles and can help stop this awful idea.

Oh, I don't have a problem with the compliment, but something else seems to be going on,  judging from Deace's behavior.  Could be wrong...hope so.

[Norm Lenhart]

Damn it people. Cruz is the only real voice out there trying to save the internet from full out control from the Globalists and Trump seems receptive of his work. I see no reason why Cruz can't compliment him for finally picking the right side of an issue and try to get as many main stream voices on board as possible. Like it or not, Trump is a loud voice right now in the news cycles and can help stop this awful idea.

No issue with complimenting anything Trump does right. the problem is if he goes beyond that and endorses. If he does, I want nothing to do with him.

Levin sold us out with his "Trump sucks but I'm voting for him and you should too" liberal idiocy.
Rush sold us out along with Hannity, coulter and the rest of right wing media years before.

Ted is the last man standing between us and being entirely unrepresented in media/politics. And the last man standing on the public stage with any power or influence to wear the conservative banner honestly. MAYBE Lee as well. Maybe.

[Frank Cannon]

No issue with complimenting anything Trump does right. the problem is if he goes beyond that and endorses. If he does, I want nothing to do with him.

Levin sold us out with his "Trump sucks but I'm voting for him and you should too" liberal idiocy.
Rush sold us out along with Hannity, coulter and the rest of right wing media years before.

Ted is the last man standing between us and being entirely unrepresented in media/politics. And the last man standing on the public stage with any power or influence to wear the conservative banner honestly. MAYBE Lee as well. Maybe.

At this point I don't really care what anybody does. The die is cast and no matter how they land, they will be snake eyes. We're royally screwed and if we get stuck with Donny everyone with a brain will have to push him to the right on issues. If Hitlary wins I will have to pray everyday that one of her many severe ailments takes her to her reward......hell.

If Cruz thinks he needs to give this orange as-s-hole a worthless endorsement to stop Obama from totally burning down the house before he leaves, all power to him. 

[Emjay]

Why would Cruz say anything when he's kept his mouth shut for two months?   Does he really despise Trump and think he's a sociopath, as he said when he lost Indiana on May 3 and quit?
When he passionately defended his father and his wife from the attacks Trump made on them? 
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Or is this another calculated move looking to quell whatever anxiety Texas Trumpkins have about him?  Has he completely forgotten what he said on May 3?

Anyway, I'm done with this.  I knew I'd catch hell, but that's fine.  Ted sucked up to Cruz for six months last year when the principled position was Jeb's:  point out  what a cretin Trump was.  Cruz would have gained a huge amount of respect from Republicans of all stripes.  But, no, Ted said he admired Trump. Why?  Because he wanted Trump's voters.

Sickening.

Where are your instances of Cruz sucking up to Trump ... I'm sure you meant Trump and not Cruz in that sentence.  Cruz never sucked up ... as you so elegantly put it ... to Trump.  Cruz did hold his fire about Trump and all of the other candidates but simply ran on his own positions.

Also Cruz is not the kind of nasty person who enjoys personally insulting other candidates.

Can you cite any instances of what you claim to be true.

[Norm Lenhart]

At this point I don't really care what anybody does. The die is cast and no matter how they land, they will be snake eyes. We're royally screwed and if we get stuck with Donny everyone with a brain will have to push him to the right on issues. If Hitlary wins I will have to pray everyday that one of her many severe ailments takes her to her reward......hell.

If Cruz thinks he needs to give this orange as-s-hole a worthless endorsement to stop Obama from totally burning down the house before he leaves, all power to him.

So the orange A-hole can burn it instead? Not seeing an advantage there for America. It's still dead. It can die with some of it's people having the integrity to fight it to the end or not. Personally, if it dies, and really it already has, it will be without me intentionally acting to kill it.

[Norm Lenhart]

I agree.  Except I probably would not go so far as to say Levin sold us out.  He buys the lie that we must choose Trump to stop Hillary.  But he is not badgering those who disagree.  He has the right to make up his own mind.  The rest you listed are total sellouts and I am ashamed of them.

Cruz is a special case because of the absolutely horrendous way he was treated by Trump during the primary, resulting in an unjust picture of Cruz placed before the voters.  I absolutely loathe Trump for robbing me of a fair primary and a chance to have a truly conservative nominee.  So I would view a Cruz endorsement as a betrayal BIG TIME!!!  If Cruz feels he must vote for Trump I hope he tells no one at all.  I hope he doesn't vote for him, but if he must....shhhhh, tell no one.

Mr Galactic inch never found a reason to do a damn thing but back whatever liberal the GOP handed him. And thats after twice threatening to leave the party, after the congressional and senate sellouts to Barry on budget, investigations, gay marriage and a dozen more big, big issues.

Levin is what this actions show him to be. A backer of liberal GOP candidates EVERY YEAR NO MATTER HOW ANTI CONSERVATIVE THEY ARE.

Look at his record. It's all right there. Every election. 1 year and 9ish months of chest beating, audience coddling conservatism, and the last couple telling people how he will vote for the liberal and you should too.

Bhoner. Mitch. Romney and now Trump.

I didn't make any of that up. He 'made it' reality. Thats the definition of selling out ones principles. Especially in the biggest way politically possible.

[sinkspur]

Where are your instances of Cruz sucking up to Trump ... I'm sure you meant Trump and not Cruz in that sentence.  Cruz never sucked up ... as you so elegantly put it ... to Trump.  Cruz did hold his fire about Trump and all of the other candidates but simply ran on his own positions.

Also Cruz is not the kind of nasty person who enjoys personally insulting other candidates.

Can you cite any instances of what you claim to be true.

Hold his fire? 

And Cruz is grateful for the boost. Candidates who have chosen to “slap Donald Trump with a stick” are “foolish,” Cruz told WMUR (Channel 9) on Monday in New Hampshire. “Not only have I refused to do so, but I have been very consistent in praising Donald Trump and praising the people who are coming out to see him,” Cruz said, in what appeared to be a jab at longtime Cruz nemesis McCain, who had called people who showed up to a Trump rally “crazies.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-ted-cruz-wooed-and-won-donald-trump/2015/09/01/04f9f65e-4cec-11e5-84df-923b3ef1a64b_story.html

"Praising" is "sucking up to."

[Norm Lenhart]

@Norm Lenhart

I'm not sure I'd call them liberals in the traditional sense. The liberals have been pretty successful in advancing their political agenda over the last 60 years and they did that by welcoming their "natural" constituencies. They know where the votes are and they don't go out of their way to alienate those voters who might be persuadable as opposed to the rabid Trump supporter....

Traditionally, liberals had several dispartate groups under their tent to play off each other. On the right, there was only RINOs and Conservatives. Rinos are already liberal so there are no other constituencies to play one off the other. There are just conservatives against the GOP. After abandoning us, they had nowhere else to find votes/no one else to rely on for their agenda but themselves.

And thats why Donald and his merry band adapt every leftist position. To return to courting Rino/Liberal 'natural constituencies.'

[Norm Lenhart]

I don't agree with Levin's tactic.  He has made himself irrelevant to them because they know in the end he will back them.  But I find him to have the best educational program around.  He seems very sincere to me.  Not like the other buffoons.

That said, I am mostly not listening to him until after the election.  I don't want to hear him praise Trump.

Oh he's a smart guy that says many great things. No question.

He just doesn't believe a word of them. Thus his repeated sellouts.

[kartographer]

All trump has to do to get my vote is to get Ted's endorsement.

Politics makes strange bedfellows... and I am sure Ted is enjoying the process of educating Little Donald about politics. 

If Cruz endorses Trump it will mean that all the Trumpsters were right and Ted Cruz is a lowlife SOB and I will post a apology to any and all that I offended while defending him, but I still won't vote for TRUMP, because to me it would then be a case of one lowlife endorsing another and that doesn't impress me.

[Emjay]

Hold his fire? 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-ted-cruz-wooed-and-won-donald-trump/2015/09/01/04f9f65e-4cec-11e5-84df-923b3ef1a64b_story.html

"Praising" is "sucking up to."

If that's all you got, then that's all you got.  It's hardly sucking up. 

[Smokin Joe]

I won't vote for Trump no matter what.  I would lose respect for Cruz if he endorses Trump.

Trump won't get my vote, but I respect Cruz for giving credit where credit is due. I would expect such fairness from him, and he does not disappoint.