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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #150 on: September 14, 2016, 04:08:32 pm »
All the things that trumpers admired in Trump are being given up and lots of liberal stuff added.  This is a quote from an article on Red State:  So he’s for touchback amnesty, single-payer healthcare, a childcare plan that is nothing more than expanded entitlements (an add-in from his daughter), a tariff on imports, is against fracking, and now wants to reconsider global warming.

Sounds like the perfect candidate.

So if the trumpers want to attract the nevertrumpers, maybe they can explain some of the above Trump programs.

The Pub party is being converted into "Blue Dog Democrats". Social issues are meaningless, rebuild defense, expand govt control over people and businesses through expansion of govt. Is it a surprise conservatives don't want any part of this?
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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #151 on: September 14, 2016, 04:34:01 pm »
Yup. I saw it at TOS plenty of times.

People who hadn't posted for years would pop up to post some pro progressive BS and within minutes others who hadn't posted for months or years would pop up to agree.

I don't remember the name but one in particular used to pimp the national popular vote. I got curious and googled the first sentence and found the exact same word for word post (entire paragraphs) in over 140 different places online with many of the exact same responses.

Scripted trolls.  That figures....since none of them are bright enough to come up with any comment or thoughts of their own.
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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #152 on: September 14, 2016, 04:35:50 pm »
Scripted trolls.  That figures....since none of them are bright enough to come up with any comment or thoughts of their own.

That they receive marching orders and carry them out is blatantly obvious.

As is the fact that they're not bright enough to rebut the facts conservatives counter with, so they keep regurgitating the vomit of their puppet masters.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #153 on: September 14, 2016, 05:12:23 pm »
Actually he is. I don't want to out his handle here, but you can tell it's him by the heavy usage of incorrect words and wild  misspellings.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #154 on: September 14, 2016, 05:20:25 pm »
That they receive marching orders and carry them out is blatantly obvious.

As is the fact that they're not bright enough to rebut the facts conservatives counter with, so they keep regurgitating the vomit of their puppet masters.

Be kind, I think these Trump supporters are quite intelligent. When faced with A = A, or the equivalent of checkmate in chess, there's really no rational way to respond. They've backed themselves into a corner, thanks to Trump's changing positions.

All they have left to counter these arguments is "Trump's not Hillary."  That is personified by most of the hosts on Salem Broadcasting Network, specifically KSKY 660 AM in Dallas, The (Wrong) Answer. Mark Davis was blubbering this morning over Trump's child care plan, responding with "he's not Hillary."
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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #155 on: September 14, 2016, 05:28:30 pm »
If he's against fracking, well, that's just another deal breaker all by itself. It shows he doesn't want us independent of the Saudis (Has he been playing 'Let's Make A Deal' with his saudi buddies again?)

I'm betting that he has been thinking about playing "Let's Make A Deal" with the Arabs....AND wet-dreaming about that harem thingy....lol.   He's probably missing the beauty pageant gig, after all.  All those beautiful women in one place.  Like he said, he will go back to a VERY nice life after this is all over.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #156 on: September 14, 2016, 05:34:05 pm »
"he's not Hillary."

Soon they will say this while tears fall, followed by "He can't be, He just can't be!"

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #157 on: September 14, 2016, 05:34:53 pm »
Be kind, I think these Trump supporters are quite intelligent. When faced with A = A, or the equivalent of checkmate in chess, there's really no rational way to respond. They've backed themselves into a corner, thanks to Trump's changing positions.

All they have left to counter these arguments is "Trump's not Hillary."  That is personified by most of the hosts on Salem Broadcasting Network, specifically KSKY 660 AM in Dallas, The (Wrong) Answer. Mark Davis was blubbering this morning over Trump's child care plan, responding with "he's not Hillary."

Oh, I have no doubt that some, perhaps even the majority of them are otherwise intelligent.  But the fact is that they cannot rationally defend in any way, shape or form, their support of Trump because it is based on emotion and not thought, so they fumble around and make fools of themselves.

But those who troll conservative forums like this one, I believe are not bright at all.  They are lackeys and post what they are instructed to post.  That is why, when conservatives post reams of facts and sources citing the error of the position they've spammed, they respond with the equivalent of, "Oh, yeah?? Well your Mom wears combat boots!"

Without someone speaking in their ear buds calling out instructions, they're dopes.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #158 on: September 14, 2016, 06:04:43 pm »
From the article:

1. Do not shame NeverTrumpers with arguments like: "If you don't vote for Trump, then you are voting for Hillary."

2. List for NeverTrumpers the net positives about Trump’s campaign.

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Yes, this is what I have been begging for.  I have said it more succinctly as, "sell Trump to me.  Do it without using the words Hillary, Cruz, Levin or Beck."

I don't see much success tho.  In the article, he supports point 1 by acknowledging every voter has a right to not vote.  OK, so what?  Then in point 2 he simply discusses how "Trump brought immigration and national security to the forefront of politics."  OK, so what?  We already knew these things and I was honestly hoping for something better.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #159 on: September 14, 2016, 06:10:50 pm »
From the article:

1. Do not shame NeverTrumpers with arguments like: "If you don't vote for Trump, then you are voting for Hillary."

2. List for NeverTrumpers the net positives about Trump’s campaign.

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Yes, this is what I have been begging for.  I have said it more succinctly as, "sell Trump to me.  Do it without using the words Hillary, Cruz, Levin or Beck."

I don't see much success tho.  In the article, he supports point 1 by acknowledging every voter has a right to not vote.  OK, so what?  Then in point 2 he simply discusses how "Trump brought immigration and national security to the forefront of politics."  OK, so what?  We already knew these things and I was honestly hoping for something better.


Newt Gingrich to gay Iowan: Vote for Obama
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/20/gingrich-to-gay-iowan-vote-for-obama/

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“I asked him if he’s elected, how does he plan to engage gay Americans. How are we to support him? And he told me to support Obama.”

Gingrich told Arnold that he doesn’t expect to get the support of voters who disagree with him on the definition of marriage and who consider that a central issue.

How refreshing! No pandering. A politician telling it like it is. The gay man was surprised by Gingrich, you can tell by his response.



I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #160 on: September 14, 2016, 06:13:08 pm »

Newt Gingrich to gay Iowan: Vote for Obama
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/20/gingrich-to-gay-iowan-vote-for-obama/

How refreshing! No pandering. A politician telling it like it is. The gay man was surprised by Gingrich, you can tell by his response.
Once more with feeling! I don't think repeating a five year old chorus 3 times is helping.
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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #161 on: September 14, 2016, 06:18:59 pm »
Once more with feeling! I don't think repeating a five year old chorus 3 times is helping.

"feelings, nothing more than feelings"



I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #162 on: September 14, 2016, 06:34:04 pm »

Newt Gingrich to gay Iowan: Vote for Obama
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/20/gingrich-to-gay-iowan-vote-for-obama/

How refreshing! No pandering. A politician telling it like it is. The gay man was surprised by Gingrich, you can tell by his response.

Since your "fine" example is from 2011, can I go back to 2011 for Trump's position on issues? 

Besides, we know that Trump currently supports same sex marriage, and Newt supports Trump.  What does that make Newt?  Based on your example above, he is a liar.  If not, then he is simply a sell-out.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #163 on: September 14, 2016, 07:18:44 pm »
Once more with feeling! I don't think repeating a five year old chorus 3 times is helping.

He's busy spamming that exact post all over the board.  I think this is the fourth or fifth different thread I've seen him dump it.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #164 on: September 14, 2016, 07:24:50 pm »
He's busy spamming that exact post all over the board.  I think this is the fourth or fifth different thread I've seen him dump it.

Just following his master's command.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #165 on: September 16, 2016, 07:47:50 pm »

Newt Gingrich to gay Iowan: Vote for Obama
http://caucuses.desmoinesregister.com/2011/12/20/gingrich-to-gay-iowan-vote-for-obama/

How refreshing! No pandering. A politician telling it like it is. The gay man was surprised by Gingrich, you can tell by his response.
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,225339.msg1056669.html#new
Donald Trump doesn't agree.
“The way I see it, every time a man gets up in the morning he starts his life over. Sure, the bills are there to pay, and the job is there to do, but you don't have to stay in a pattern. You can always start over, saddle a fresh horse and take another trail.” ― Louis L'Amour

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #166 on: September 16, 2016, 07:50:53 pm »
http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,225339.msg1056669.html#new
Donald Trump doesn't agree.

Ya, I noticed that too. Good for you. Trump isn't Newt, and Newt isn't Trump. Two different people.


I won't be here after the election and vote.

If Hillary wins - I will be busy, BLOAT! (It won't be long before she won't let you buy.)

If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #167 on: September 16, 2016, 07:52:39 pm »
Ya, I noticed that too. Good for you. Trump isn't Newt, and Newt isn't Trump. Two different people.
Yep and Trump is back to the usually political pandering.
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Re: Ten Tips for Getting NeverTrumpers on the Trump Train
« Reply #168 on: September 16, 2016, 11:11:36 pm »
Be kind, I think these Trump supporters are quite intelligent. When faced with A = A, or the equivalent of checkmate in chess, there's really no rational way to respond. They've backed themselves into a corner, thanks to Trump's changing positions.

All they have left to counter these arguments is "Trump's not Hillary."  That is personified by most of the hosts on Salem Broadcasting Network, specifically KSKY 660 AM in Dallas, The (Wrong) Answer. Mark Davis was blubbering this morning over Trump's child care plan, responding with "he's not Hillary."
That's the argument for most of the "conservative" talk show hosts backing Trump....he's not Hlllary. Like we didn't know that. Mark Steyn spent three hours today doing the same thing as Davis....Trump is better than Hillary. Gee thanks Mark, like we didn't know that.
But now I wonder how all the Birthers feel about Trump backpedaling on that issue.  They'll still vote for him, but that's another subset of Trumpsters who have been betrayed.