Alt-Right Leaders: We Aren’t Racist, We Just Hate Jews

[LadyLiberty]

Just curious - do you ever comment on the content instead of just criticizing other posters?

I just see a handful of folks that swoop in and try to hijack the discussion.   

[Longmire]

Good Dog.

Yes he is...

[Formerly Once-Ler]

@aligncare I haven't left the building, just holding the door open for Pepe. 

Enjoy! 

In case any of you cucks didn't get the Pepe reference.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/05/26/how-pepe-the-frog-became-a-nazi-trump-supporter-and-alt-right-symbol.html

[Smokin Joe]

From my view, Trump has come along and made all those false accusations from the left about the right true.  They didn't use to be true.  They are now.  At least in part and in too much prominence.   And for all those celebrating Trump's killing of the PC rules, watch out.  They will be back with a vengeance because of Trump.

He has been acting like a Leftist caricature of someone on the Right would act. 

[Neverdul]

TYRANNY PAPERS #20 – THE ALT-RIGHT IS REAL

https://nevertyranny.com/2016/09/01/tyranny-papers-20-the-alt-right-is-real/

To understand the co-opting of the conservative message, it must be understood that a large majority of the surface content of the alt-right movement mirrors traditional conservatism.  There is nothing new, nor inherently wrong, about the desire to control our borders, assert American sovereignty, re-assert the importance of Judeo-Christian values, and encourage the assimilation of immigrants into American culture.  What is new is the untethering of these desires from the tenants of limited government and fiscal restraint and the new connections being built with strains of Ethnocentric Nativism and Aggressive Nationalism.  Recognizing the influences of the alt-right will require us to learn and identify the subtle differences in the motivations and aims of their rhetoric as compared to that of traditional conservatism.

These are just a few issues where the surface language can appear in harmony with traditional conservative ideals, but when examined closely present glaringly opposite motivations and end results.  Moving forward, conservatives must learn to recognize the differences between being conservative and being reactionary, between patriotism and nationalism, and between individual liberty and collective protectionism.  The alt-right is not who the conservative movement truly is, and Hillary Clinton has actually aided the conservative more than anyone else in the current campaign by drawing a contrast between traditional conservatism and the alt-right.  Conservatives must seize the opportunity to save the political organizations which have traditionally represented conservative interests from the stain of alt-right influence.  Conservatives must come to understand that the alt-right is real, it is dangerous, and while its language seems like a conservative message, in actuality it has nothing to do with the shared interests and values of those desiring limited government and a free society.

[Suppressed]

TYRANNY PAPERS #20 – THE ALT-RIGHT IS REAL

https://nevertyranny.com/2016/09/01/tyranny-papers-20-the-alt-right-is-real/

@Neverdul

Excellent post!

Unless we heed such warnings, conservatism will become tainted.

[EasyAce]

The fact that the left abuses the term "racist" doesn't mean that the real issue doesn't exist.

Careful. You may have just outed yourself as a leftist so far as some are concerned who think the issue is just
a leftist smokescreen. ;)

And the anti-Semitism from the hard "right" (I don't necessarily think of them as right), is as disturbing as anything I've seen........ especially on a rational forum like this one.

I prefer to think of them as the hard wrong, myself . . .

[Formerly Once-Ler]

TYRANNY PAPERS #20 – THE ALT-RIGHT IS REAL

https://nevertyranny.com/2016/09/01/tyranny-papers-20-the-alt-right-is-real/

OUTSTANDING EDITORIAL!!!  Thank you for posting it.

[Cripplecreek]

He has been acting like a Leftist caricature of someone on the Right would act.

Yup

[Sanguine]

OUTSTANDING EDITORIAL!!!  Thank you for posting it.

Agreed.  I just posted the link on another thread too. 

[musiclady]

Careful. You may have just outed yourself as a leftist so far as some are concerned who think the issue is just
a leftist smokescreen. ;)

I prefer to think of them as the hard wrong, myself . . .

"Hard wrong"................. I LIKE that!

[Smokin Joe]

TYRANNY PAPERS #20 – THE ALT-RIGHT IS REAL

https://nevertyranny.com/2016/09/01/tyranny-papers-20-the-alt-right-is-real/

Excellent post! 

[geronl]

Am I missing something? They are meeting with Trump- don't they know his daughter is Jewish?

his son-in-law is Jewish

[Smokin Joe]

his son-in-law is Jewish

Maybe he isn't fond of his son-in-law...

[Idaho_Cowboy]

I have a couple of observations.

The second observation is that hating Jews doesn't mean they are either anti-Semitic or racist.

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[Idaho_Cowboy]

Yes, it is a good idea for Longmire – for the sake of his sanity. I found longmire to be one of the best and brightest posters here, who I found to be completely absent even the slightest hit of sanctimony, unlike 100% of #NeverTrump.

Of course, attempting to post pro-Trump arguments here at TBR, as he often brilliantly does, is always fraught with risk. The slightest positive intonation toward Donald Trump is unerringly met with dozens, nay, scores and scores of yapping posts ozzing with bile -- usually from from the same few deranged political terrorists -- sorry, I meant to say terriers...



You used to display a modicum of class, Once-Ler. Sorry to see you pile on to yet another supporter of the Republican nominee, who has simply had enough of the dysfunctional former republican/conservative TBR.

Wow, calling people on your side Terrorists on the anniversary of 9-11. Come on dude, you're better than that.

[Sanguine]

I have a couple of observations.

The first is "I wonder how much money the DNC has funneled to them and to media organizations to get them to publicize these people nobody ever heard of before>

The second observation is that hating Jews doesn't mean they are either anti-Semitic or racist. "Jewish" is not a race. It's a religion and a culture that celebrates success,hard work,and education.  Anybody can be a Jew that wants to be one and is willing and able to put in the work necessary,but nobody can change their race,

It is similar to being a Muslim. ANYBODY can be a Muslim if they can flunk a IQ test,regardless of their race or point of origin. The prime difference between Judaism and Islam is Islam isn't a religion,it's a political system and the culture is that of a depraved sociopath that is focused on murder and world-wide slavery.

However one defines Judaism, hating Jews is the generally accepted definition of antisemitism.  What am I missing in your statement?

[musiclady]

Wow, calling people on your side Terrorists on the anniversary of 9-11. Come on dude, you're better than that.

I used to think so, but not any more.

[Rivergirl]

Into what category would the illustrious Patrick J Buchanan fall?

[Smokin Joe]

However one defines Judaism, hating Jews is the generally accepted definition of antisemitism.  What am I missing in your statement?

Semitic is actually a language group. From :http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Semitic

Semitic
adjective Se·mit·ic \sə-ˈmi-tik also -ˈme-\

1 :  of, relating to, or constituting a subfamily of the Afro-Asiatic language family that includes Hebrew, Aramaic, Arabic, and Amharic

2:  of, relating to, or characteristic of the Semites

3:  Jewish

By the most common definition, for an Arab to be anti-Semitic, they would have to be self loathing as well.

Common American usage has made the term somewhat synonymous with "Jewish", but first and foremost, it describes a language group.

[DiogenesLamp]

You go from good post to stupid post pretty quickly I see.

I asked what I thought was a reasonable question.   I asked why you picked that name,  and I was not trying to be mean about it.   

About the only other interpretation for it of which I can think is that it is somehow derived from "cuke"  which is slang for cucumber. 


I'm not suggesting you quit using it,  and I never assumed it to be derogatory in reference to you. 

The alias is cuky.  I have had the alias for over 20 years on various sites including TOS.  NOt a single time has this alt right reference been used. The last 4 months is the first time the alias name cuky has been changed into the cuck reference due to our alt right members infesting this site with their memes and the ones arguing how its OK.

I don't know anything about that.   I've known of the term "cuck"  for at least a decade,  but as I said,  i've not used it in regards to you,  nor did I even think it in regards to you.   I just pointed out where I can see such an alias can be problematic.   

[Sanguine]

Semitic is actually a language group. From :http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/Semitic

By the most common definition, for an Arab to be anti-Semitic, they would have to be self loathing as well.

Common American usage has made the term somewhat synonymous with "Jewish", but first and foremost, it describes a language group.

Interesting, but what does that have to do with my comments? 

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"Common American usage has made the term somewhat synonymous with "Jewish", but first and foremost, it describes a language group."

Bless your heart.

[DiogenesLamp]

It definitely exists....only the numbers are in question. The anti-Semitic/anti-non-white element of the Trump backers might be small, but it is there. While maybe only a small pct. of Trump backers are racists, all the Jew haters and non-white people haters are definitely, strongly for Trump.

Which as I pointed out,   makes the joke on them.  Trump is very pro-Jewish.  All his grandchildren are Jewish.   :) 

Just go to Taylor's American Renaissance website and read the comments following some of the articles. Jews come in for more a vicious beating many times than blacks. Ditto for Taki's Mag.

I occasionally follow a link that leads to Taki's mag,   and I have not noticed any overtly anti-Jewish sentiments being expressed in any of the articles I have read from that site.   I see more expression of frustration  directed at blacks rather than Jews.   

Now in the comments,   I should not be surprised.   There are a lot of kooks out there that comment .   

Jews or "the tribe" (as they are referred to by a number of the commenters) are regularly maligned on the latter even though a number of posters and writers admit to being Jewish. 

It is a  very  weird aspect of some Jews to be self hating.  I've heard this phenomena described over and over enough to believe there is something to it.   

I don't visit Stormfront because of its obvious Nazi associations.

I've stumbled onto that site by accident once,  and as soon as I figured out what it was,   I  got out of there.    I figured such sites had to exist on the net,  and that is certainly one of them. 

[DiogenesLamp]

@HonestJohn




You probably believe it was locals who bombed the black churches,too. More foolishness. There was no way in hell the local KKK members would ever bomb a freaking church in the south in the 1950's or 1960's. Those bombings were a product of J.Edgar Sissy and his boys,acting at the direction of the northeastern elitist families who were losing political power within the Dim Party,and had to find a way to demonize the KKK and the southern politicians in order to keep their grip on power.

Now this is a statement I find very interesting.   My discussions on the Civil War have lead me to believe that there exists a very influential power block in the DC / Boston corridor that  uses the government to further it's own interests,  and especially  to influence voters to keep putting it's puppets back into office from which they can dole out the goodies.   


As it was in 1861,  so too is it still today.   The media (which influences the voters nationwide)  is headquartered mostly in New York,   and is completely under the thumb of these wealthy powerbrokers.   


The media is heavily biased to the left,  because the people who own it like it that way.