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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #25 on: September 10, 2016, 03:34:05 am »
He's correct. "Allah" is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, and most certainly not the triune Father, Son and Holy Spirit described in the Bible.

Islam is not a religion!  Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion!
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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #26 on: September 10, 2016, 03:34:20 am »
I wasn't speaking about Jews here and I never mentioned anything about who God favors.   The topic is comparing Islam to Christianity....which is what I addressed. 

I support the Jews and Israel and pray for them and their deliverance (those that still do not believe Jesus is the son of God)....and since God has chosen them...I don't presume to question God or why he has done so.   You can, however, question Him if you choose.  Your choice.

The Catholic Church refers to Jews as "Our elder brothers and sisters in the Faith."  And the Church has now backed off trying to convert Jews to Christianity. 

As St. Teresa of Calcutta said of her mission:  "My calling is not to make all these people Catholic.  I am called to make Jews better Jews, Christians better Christians, Muslims better Muslims."
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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #27 on: September 10, 2016, 03:38:53 am »
God bless your humble perspective.

The Catholic Church does not change its views toward non-Christian faiths.  No matter who the Pope happens to be.

Well if that's true....

perhaps they should. 

There is no comparison re: Christianity vs. Islam.   And since the Catholic Church is founded upon the birth of Christ, his life, his teachings, his death and his resurrection.....which Muslims do not believe in....any Catholic that tries to compare Islam with Christianity is blaspheming against the very foundation of the Christian Catholic Church.  At least, that's how I see it.

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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2016, 03:42:53 am »
The Catholic Church refers to Jews as "Our elder brothers and sisters in the Faith."  And the Church has now backed off trying to convert Jews to Christianity. 

As St. Teresa of Calcutta said of her mission:  "My calling is not to make all these people Catholic.  I am called to make Jews better Jews, Christians better Christians, Muslims better Muslims."

St. Teresa was indeed a saint.  I take no issue with her or what she said.  Even she knows that in the last days, many will be converted to Christianity.  Many of all 'other' faiths.
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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #29 on: September 10, 2016, 04:22:16 am »
You said this:

The Jews don't acknowledge that Jesus is the Son of God.  So where do Jews fit in your idea of who God favors?

The Apostle Paul dealt with that very subject and gave the answer.
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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #30 on: September 10, 2016, 08:31:14 pm »
Islam is not a religion!  Islam is a political movement masquerading as a religion!

Amen to that!

And by definition muslims do not worship Christ.
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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #31 on: September 11, 2016, 03:57:48 am »
The bible says it is not in fact it is a pagan god. The moon god is what that allah stands for. No where in the Catholic faith that I was brought up in was I ever taught that Islam was anything but a pagan religion. Actually it is not a religion it is a cult. The only book a real Christian lives by is the bible the whole foundation for the Christians and the only faith a Christian is to hold dear is the one founded by Christ himself. We are to hold dear the Jews who are God's chosen people but no other cult that comes into existence due to a man having epileptic fits and imagining the archangel Michael appeared to him and from there he made up a religion. That so called religion actually a cult debases women and children and believes killing in the name of Allah will get him virgins when they go to heaven. If you think that is the same God you and I serve Sinkspur then you have no idea what you are talking about. I don't know where you went to a seminary that taught you such lies.

Aaaaand prior to the Second Vatican Council (1962–1965), the Catholic church taught that the Jews killed Christ.

Are you saying that, since some people grew up with a Church that taught that the Jews killed Christ, that it's right... and that everyone claiming differently is full of it?

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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #32 on: September 11, 2016, 04:01:47 am »
Well if that's true....

perhaps they should. 

There is no comparison re: Christianity vs. Islam.   And since the Catholic Church is founded upon the birth of Christ, his life, his teachings, his death and his resurrection.....which Muslims do not believe in....any Catholic that tries to compare Islam with Christianity is blaspheming against the very foundation of the Christian Catholic Church.  At least, that's how I see it.

You know that your post can apply just as equally to Judaism, or Hinduism, or Buddhism.

IE: There is no comparison re: Christianity vs. Judaism.  And since the Catholic Church is founded upon the birth of Christ, his life, his teachings, his death and his resurrection.....which Jews do not believe in....any Catholic that tries to compare Judaism with Christianity is blaspheming against the very foundation of the Christian Catholic Church.
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Re: Cardinal Burke: Christians and Muslims Do Not Worship The Same God
« Reply #33 on: September 11, 2016, 06:52:21 am »
The god of Muhammad is a declared god, with a declared prophet and a book, with it's associated hadiths...

The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob is a declared God with declared prophets, and a Book (Torah), and it's associated additions (the Bible).

It is simplicity in itself to compare the two.

Torah speaks from the beginning, and cannot be altered in any fashion. NO ONE, according to Yahova, has the authority to do so. Yahova's prophets are prevented from altering that which the prophets beforehand have declared. He is the only god to declare, unalterably, from the beginning, what will be in the end.

*no other scripture*, *none*, has this structure.

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