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How is a loser in the national primaries for POTUS a "threat"?
You might ask Dubya why he signed Campaign Finance Reform even though he promised not to during the primaries in 2000.  The reason?  John McCain.

McCain parlayed his cozy relationship with the media and rammed that bill right down Dubya's throat.  If Trump gets elected Cruz will suddenly become the most sought after Senator on CNN, MSNBC, and the alphabet networks news show.

Bank on it.

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SOURCE: RED STATE

URL: http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/09/08/senate-majority-whip-senator-john-cornyn-says-wont-helping-ted-cruz-reelection-bid/

by: Susan Wright



So is this payback for Senator Ted Cruz’s stand on principle at the GOP convention in July?

Senate majority whip, Sen. John Cornyn is refusing to endorse Cruz in a 2018 reelection bid, should Cruz face Rep. Michael McCaul in a primary contest for the seat.

To be fair, however, Cornyn also refuses to endorse or back McCaul in his reelection bid.

So far, this seems like a lot of speculation, as Trump began the process of naming names to replace Cruz, due to a perceived slight at the convention.

It’s hard to say what impact Cruz’s stand had on his overall favorability with voters, or if it’s even something that will be remembered in two years.

For now, however, it appears Cruz will have to do his early campaigning without the help of party leaders.

What the heck is changed? In his original Senate run,  Cruz HAD to do his  campaigning without the help of party leaders.


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Well, putting aside your rather frightening imagination, Ted Cruz is between that proverbial rock and a hard place in the Republican Party.  He, the man, has been extremely disliked since he stepped foot in the Capitol.  His not supporting the Republican nominee has deepened this dislike.  No matter the outcome of the election, Ted Cruz has seriously hurt himself within the Party.

He can always leave the party----but this would be another unsuccessful tantrum because the line holding the door open for him would long and deep.     

Untenable. :shrug:

Whatever you say dear!  :whistle:

I suppose we will find out just how untenable his position is soon enough!
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SOURCE: RED STATE

URL: http://www.redstate.com/sweetie15/2016/09/08/senate-majority-whip-senator-john-cornyn-says-wont-helping-ted-cruz-reelection-bid/

by: Susan Wright



So is this payback for Senator Ted Cruz’s stand on principle at the GOP convention in July?

Senate majority whip, Sen. John Cornyn is refusing to endorse Cruz in a 2018 reelection bid, should Cruz face Rep. Michael McCaul in a primary contest for the seat.

To be fair, however, Cornyn also refuses to endorse or back McCaul in his reelection bid.

So far, this seems like a lot of speculation, as Trump began the process of naming names to replace Cruz, due to a perceived slight at the convention.

It’s hard to say what impact Cruz’s stand had on his overall favorability with voters, or if it’s even something that will be remembered in two years.

For now, however, it appears Cruz will have to do his early campaigning without the help of party leaders.

That's what John Cornyn has done all during his years in the Senate ... sit on the sidelines and see what happens.  Zero respect for this bland go along to get along guy.
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As I recall, Cornyn did not endorse Cruz in the primary against Dewhurst either.  And I believe that is standard practice in the primaries.

Not really.  Most Texas insiders endorsed Dewhurst.  Ted Cruz was a relative unknown and way too conservative for the party insiders.
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As a reminder, on video, grown men screaming and taunting Heidi Cruz at the Republican Convention to the point she had to have a security escort to leave.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/video/heidi-cruz-escorted-convention-floor-40758491
http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/heidi-cruz-attack-republican-gop-convention-speech-video/

What grown man (at that several of them) gets in a woman's face and starts screaming at her because he doesn't like her husband (who had the gall to suggest voting your values and conscience as if that is some sort of controversial suggestion)? And not just some dirty hippy or BLM protestor doing the screaming, but Republican delegates.

I'd almost forgotten that disgusting display of barbaric behavior toward a wife ... something that would not have been tolerated AT (before Trump)
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They're both just labels but I suppose it would depend whether you identify as a die hard Republican or die hard Conservative.

Recent behavior by the DC establishment informs me that the old Left/Right Democrat/Republican paradigm is crumbling. Cruz leaving the GOP would solidify his position outside the DC establishment and would better define the transition taking place. I doubt he has the courage to do that however.

Ted Cruz certainly has the courage to do what he thinks is right and best for the country.

The last thing he should do is leave the Republican Party.  Ted Cruz is the one person who can unify and direct the Party in a more conservative direction.  Like Reagan, Cruz has the power to influence the public to pull with him in the right direction.

This mindless hatred of an excellent man is a hallmark of the Trump Zombie crowd.
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Cruz will be opposed by a well financed opponent in the GOP primary and if Trump loses it'll be someone already polling ahead of him in Texas.

He's gonna be toast, the only question is how burnt.  :laugh:

 Cruz will still be a statesman and either a Senator or President when Trump has become a punchline in every joke in America.
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Hopefully some of his former big donors return so he can afford his campaign because I doubt the GOP's going to throw a hot nickel his way.  And hopefully, he'll be satisfied with being the most disdained Senator in Congress for the rest of his life.

And IF Trump loses, pumpkin, Cruz will look like the friggin' reason.

Do you realize what you just said?  Cruz has all the power.  Trump will lose ... badly ... it will be all Cruz's doing.  What a guy!  He can make or break elections.

By the way, he's only disdained by the cozy little club of insiders whose boat he continues to rock.
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Meanwhile Ted Cruz is working to prevent Obama giving away control of the internet.

But who cares, we await Orange salvation to fix it.

Yes, Ted Cruz is working for us while Trump concentrates on starting up his very own TV Network from whence he can control ALL the media.
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@corbe

Cruz won a squeaker against Dewhurst in 2012, and he'll be running for re-election with less support and a lot more liabilities, including some powerful enemies.

I wouldn't bet the ranch he gets reelected  ymmv.
-btw I agree with you about the TV show, just not the same after Netflix took it over.  :beer:

Cruz was a virtual unknown running against a fairly popular establishment candidate.  That he prevailed so well in the primary was considered quite dramatic.  And then he went on to win quite decisively.  The things you call liabilities ... by which you mean he did not endorse the King of Evil ... are considered positives by most Texans.

He's still got a better organization right now ... not running for anything at the moment ... than the Orange Guy has running for president.
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Sorry about that.  Just read the thread and couldn't resist replying and when you live in Maui, you get the last word because no one else is awake.
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Sorry about that.  Just read the thread and couldn't resist replying and when you live in Maui, you get the last word because no one else is awake.

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I wouldn't call 13 points a squeaker

@corbe

Dewhurst beat him by 10 points in the first round (44-34), not exactly a ringing endorsement of Cruz's base support...

In fact Cruz was down for the count before Sarah Palin got involved, something Cruz himself readily acknowledges.

So yeah, squeaker...and no mama grizzly to pull his fat out of the fire in 2018. 

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So, uh, why is this a story?  As it turns out, Cornyn doesn't endorse anyone in presidential primaries either.  He didn't endorse McCain in 2008 until after Romney dropped out, and didn't endorse Romney in 2012 until April, when he pretty much had the nomination locked up.

http://amarillo.com/news/2016-04-07/john-cornyn-still-not-endorsing-ted-cruz

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It isn't a story.  Just some folks trying to make it into one.

Yes, and most of them will not endorse unless asked specifically by the candidate running to do so.

We are Texans, you and I, and I cannot speak for you, but I can say that I have met no one would will not cast a vote for Senator Cruz in 2018.
Everyone that I have spoken to has told me they will.
Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but we see Cruz now fighting to not lose control of the internet, and other things he has stood up to, and he is viewed in a more favorable light than Cornyn is.

IMO, Perry would not be able to do so, and to try would tarnish his own brand, and he is wise enough to know this.

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It isn't a story.  Just some folks trying to make it into one.

Some people just don't endorse which is perfectly fine with me. I wish they all would adopt that policy.

Pat Sajak in response to people asking if he was going to endorse Trump said "I don't endorse anyone. People who vote based on celebrity endorsements are morons".

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We are Texans, you and I, and I cannot speak for you, but I can say that I have met no one would will not cast a vote for Senator Cruz in 2018.

Everyone that I have spoken to has told me they will.

Same for me, at least from everyone that works for a living, strongly so with any who have felt the impact of government overreach.
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@Emjay

Ted Cruz certainly has the courage to do what he thinks is right and best for the country.
In that vein the only "couragous" thing I've seen him do is end his campaign for President.

Ted Cruz is the one person who can unify and direct the Party in a more conservative direction. 
Cruz has failed in this effort and by not endorsing the GOP nominee has effectively cut his own throat within the party.

It's time for him to go.

This mindless hatred of an excellent man is a hallmark of the Trump Zombie crowd.
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Yes, and most of them will not endorse unless asked specifically by the candidate running to do so.

We are Texans, you and I, and I cannot speak for you, but I can say that I have met no one would will not cast a vote for Senator Cruz in 2018.
Everyone that I have spoken to has told me they will.
Anecdotal evidence, to be sure, but we see Cruz now fighting to not lose control of the internet, and other things he has stood up to, and he is viewed in a more favorable light than Cornyn is.

IMO, Perry would not be able to do so, and to try would tarnish his own brand, and he is wise enough to know this.

I'll be there to vote for Ted (again) in 2018. A part of me wishes that he doesn't run, to be able to spend more time with his family, and make a lot of money in the private sector, writing books, and giving speeches. I think it would do him a world of good to take a break from politics.
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Same for me, at least from everyone that works for a living, strongly so with any who have felt the impact of government overreach.

I think I may know one reason that other people from around the country do not understand our support for Cruz.

That reason would be the beating the 10th amendment takes regularly.

Ted Cruz is quite willing to stand up for this, a rare position for someone at the federal level.
This means he is willing to give up (return) power, and most in D.C. are not so inclined.
It is one of his tenets, and one near and dear to my heart.

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I think I may know one reason that other people from around the country do not understand our support for Cruz.

That reason would be the beating the 10th amendment takes regularly.

Ted Cruz is quite willing to stand up for this, a rare position for someone at the federal level.
This means he is willing to give up (return) power, and most in D.C. are not so inclined.
It is one of his tenets, and one near and dear to my heart.

I think things in DC would be considerably different if state legislatures chose senators again.

When state legislators could easily remove a sitting senator, those senators had good reason to put their state first.

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I think you've described the situation pretty well. When the party and its leaders no longer espouse the things you believe in, its time to get out. Cruz's inability to put his country and his party over his own "principles" render him a Republican in name only. This will become more apparent when Trump wins and the GOP challenges Cruz for his Senate seat.

Cruz is a gentleman. He is what a man and a father should be or aspire to be. Trump might be a male, but he can't hold a candle in that department to Senator Cruz.

If the giant meteor hasn't hit by 2018, I hope Sen Cruz has a distinguished political career. He's destined for great things. I wish people would wake up and see that. We need him.  :patriot:
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I think things in DC would be considerably different if state legislatures chose senators again.

When state legislators could easily remove a sitting senator, those senators had good reason to put their state first.

DC would be considerably different if they ripped out the central a/c in the Capitol building. The last time Congress finished their business on time was the year before central air conditioning was installed in the Capitol (mid 1920s).
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In that vein the only "couragous" thing I've seen him do is end his campaign for President.

Cruz has failed in this effort and by not endorsing the GOP nominee has effectively cut his own throat within the party.

It's time for him to go.
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