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Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« on: September 04, 2016, 04:46:55 pm »

Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/294405-carson-likens-trumps-tax-plan-to-new-deal

September 03, 2016
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During a visit to his hometown of Detroit on Saturday, Ben Carson hailed Donald Trump’s tax plan, likening it to former President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal.

Carson, speaking in front of his childhood home, told CNN that Trump would bring “billions of dollars that are overseas” into the country and use some of it to invest in poor communities.

“Really what that does is twofold,” Carson said. “First of all it would be the biggest stimulus package since FDR’s New Deal. Number two, it gets businesses corporations once again interested in reaching out to the communities and helping people in the communities.”

Trump visited Detroit on Saturday, attending services at a black church and conducting an interview with a pastor.
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #1 on: September 04, 2016, 05:16:43 pm »
sounds like a bad thing
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #2 on: September 04, 2016, 05:21:56 pm »
Wow, is Carson trying to hurt Trump, actually believes the New Deal is a good thing, or just ignorant?  I assume by his education it isn't the last one.

Let's take the 'bring billions of dollars from overseas' as an example: (I assume he means businesses who set up shop overseas due to our restrictive tax and regulation system).

First and foremost, it shows the common liberal fallacy that money is the government's first with which to then distribute to the people in a way it deems best for the people. They believe if a business is doing what it can to remain profitable, including moving away from regressive tax systems, that is stealing from the people and it is the government's job to 'make that right'.
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #3 on: September 04, 2016, 05:24:37 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on September 04, 2016, 05:21:56 pm
Wow, is Carson trying to hurt Trump, actually believes the New Deal is a good thing, or just ignorant?  I assume by his education it isn't the last one.

Let's take the 'bring billions of dollars from overseas' as an example: (I assume he means businesses who set up shop overseas due to our restrictive tax and regulation system).

First and foremost, it shows the common liberal fallacy that money is the government's first with which to then distribute to the people in a way it deems best for the people. They believe if a business is doing what it can to remain profitable, including moving away from regressive tax systems, that is stealing from the people and it is the government's job to 'make that right'.

Did he just endorse more hopelessness and welfare?
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #4 on: September 04, 2016, 05:28:06 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on September 04, 2016, 05:24:37 pm
Did he just endorse more hopelessness and welfare?

Yep... nothing like a dose of socialism coming form the so called GOP candidate.
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #5 on: September 04, 2016, 05:29:27 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on September 04, 2016, 05:24:37 pm
Did he just endorse more hopelessness and welfare?

That's where the next part of the quote comes into play where we know he isn't talking about just making it friendly for businesses here:

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..... use some of it to invest in poor communities....

That clearly shows that it is being confiscated (taxes, fees, regulations) by the government and redistributed through some sort of social engineering. You notice that he isn't talking about making it friendly and profitable for businesses to bring their money back and grow in these communities, no, he is talking about direct redistribution.

There is very little in that quote that would be different than what Bernie Sanders promises.

Or maybe a direct correlation, it is right in line with the EU's attacks on Apple for moving some of their manufacturing Ireland to avoid taxes and the EU trying to penalize them for that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/eu-apple-ireland-13-billion-euros-dollars-taxes-illegal-tax-benefits/

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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2016, 05:33:00 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on September 04, 2016, 05:29:27 pm
That's where the next part of the quote comes into play where we know he isn't talking about just making it friendly for businesses here:

That clearly shows that it is being confiscated (taxes, fees, regulations) by the government and redistributed through some sort of social engineering. You notice that he isn't talking about making it friendly and profitable for businesses to bring their money back and grow in these communities, no, he is talking about direct redistribution.

There is very little in that quote that would be different than what Bernie Sanders promises.

Or maybe a direct correlation, it is right in line with the EU's attacks on Apple for moving some of their manufacturing Ireland to avoid taxes and the EU trying to penalize them for that.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/eu-apple-ireland-13-billion-euros-dollars-taxes-illegal-tax-benefits/

Putting money into the community is giving it to corrupt Democratic officials of which they elected and leads to more "New Deal".   Oh so funny we should coin Trump as the "New Deal" candidate of stagnation.
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #7 on: September 04, 2016, 05:35:26 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on September 04, 2016, 05:33:00 pm
Putting money into the community is giving it to corrupt Democratic officials of which they elected and leads to more "New Deal".   Oh so funny we should coin Trump as the "New Deal" candidate of stagnation.

I remember this from a few months ago and applies even more with statements like Carson's.

Trump is promising the opposite of Reagan, he is promising a huge government to solve problems.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/trump-government-ethnocentrism/473538/

He is from the government and he is here to help.
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2016, 05:44:04 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on September 04, 2016, 05:35:26 pm
I remember this from a few months ago and applies even more with statements like Carson's.

Trump is promising the opposite of Reagan, he is promising a huge government to solve problems.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/trump-government-ethnocentrism/473538/

He is from the government and he is here to help.

Big government helping with the immigrants that will do the jobs Americans don't want to do!
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #9 on: September 04, 2016, 06:39:48 pm »
Quote from: AbaraXas on September 04, 2016, 05:35:26 pm
I remember this from a few months ago and applies even more with statements like Carson's.

Trump is promising the opposite of Reagan, he is promising a huge government to solve problems.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/03/trump-government-ethnocentrism/473538/

He is from the government and he is here to help.

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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #10 on: September 04, 2016, 06:54:58 pm »
Quote from: Chosen Daughter on September 04, 2016, 05:33:00 pm
Putting money into the community is giving it to corrupt Democratic officials of which they elected and leads to more "New Deal".   Oh so funny we should coin Trump as the "New Deal" candidate of stagnation.

On May 9, 1939, FDR's own Treasury Secretary, Henry Morganthau, called the New Deal a failure,
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Re: Carson likens Trump's tax plan to New Deal
« Reply #11 on: September 04, 2016, 07:12:30 pm »
Quote from: Night Hides Not on September 04, 2016, 06:54:58 pm
On May 9, 1939, FDR's own Treasury Secretary, Henry Morganthau, called the New Deal a failure,







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