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SOURCE: PJ MEDIA

URL: https://pjmedia.com/election/2016/08/27/trump-rallies-against-cruz-while-hes-proving-cruz-right-on-immigration/

by: Tyler O'Neil



This week, Donald Trump praised a possible challenger to Ted Cruz in the 2018 Texas Senate primary, even as he vindicated one of Cruz's strongest arguments. Infamously, Trump weakened his stance on immigration — his signature issue — drawing the ire of none other than Ann Coulter, who just released a book titled "In Trump We Trust.

Shortly after Cruz declined to endorse Trump at the Republican National Convention last month, the Republican nominee talked about establishing a super PAC to spend money against the Texas senator (along with Ohio Governor John Kasich, who boycotted the RNC). According to a recent poll by the Democratic group Public Policy Polling, the only challenger who could defeat Cruz in the 2018 Senate primary is former Governor Rick Perry.

At a fundraiser in Austin on Tuesday, Trump lavished praise on Perry. "I've been hearing a lot about that [Perry running against Cruz] and I don't know if he wants to do it, but boy, will he do well," the nominee declared. "People love him in Texas, and he was one great governor."

Turning to the former governor, who was in the room at the time, Trump said, "I don't know what he's going to do but you are one popular guy all over, but in Texas in particular."

Yet the nominee did not just implicitly attack Cruz this week, he also vindicated the Texas senator's warnings about him during the presidential primary. During their heated struggle for the nomination, the Texas senator argued that Trump had pulled the wool over his supporters' eyes, and still believed in lax immigration promises. Cruz said Trump's true positions would come out in the general election. Now, that warning appears to have come true, much to the chagrin of Ann Coulter.

"It vindicates what Ted Cruz warned would happen during the course of the campaign," Chris Wilson, director of research, analytics, and digital strategy on Cruz's campaign and a top Cruz advisor, told Politico. Wilson argued that the Texas senator's speech at the RNC, far from being Cruz's political suicide, would be remembered favorably.

"Everything Trump promises comes with an expiration date," Amanda Carpenter, Cruz's former Senate communications director, added. "We knew it during the primary, and now it is apparent he has duped his most loyal supporters on the issue they care about most, immigration. Don't say we didn't warn them."

But the PPP poll didn't just say Rick Perry could defeat Ted Cruz in the 2018 primary, it also found that Cruz's popularity has taken a nosedive. Nevertheless, there are many reasons to take this news with a grain of salt.


Following Cruz's declaration that Republicans should "vote their conscience" at the RNC — which most seem to have automatically interpreted as meaning "vote against Trump," for some odd reason — many have called his speech an act of political suicide. (It is notable, when discussing these matters, that Trump went after Cruz's family personally, even suggesting that Cruz's father was involved in the JFK assassination.) Indeed, the PPP poll seems to indicate that this Texas senator's lone star is waning. But I wouldn't be so quick to pronounce him dead.

Only one challenger stands a chance against Cruz, and that person is none other than the longest serving governor in Texas' history. Rick Perry, who served as governor for 16 years, and whose approval rating did not take a hit despite a formal indictment in 2014, would certainly be stiff competition for any office in the Lone Star State.

Other potential challengers, Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick and Representative Michael McCaul, come nowhere near Cruz, losing to him by 22 points and 32 points, respectively. Fifty percent of Texas Republicans say they want Cruz to be the candidate for Senate again in 2018, while only 43 percent want to replace him.

The poll also indicated that the senator would wipe the floor with potential Democratic candidates, U.S. Housing Secretary Julián Castro and former gubernatorial candidate Wendy Davis, who both lose by 12 points in a hypothetical match-up.

The attention-grabbing news in this poll (released by a left-leaning pollster let's not forget) is Cruz's rising unpopularity. Only 39 percent of voters approve of the job he is doing as senator, while 48 percent disapprove. This contrasts with presidential preference, where 52 percent of Texans say they prefer Trump as their nominee, while only 38 percent would go with Cruz.

In context, however, it is the 38 percent who still prefer Cruz as the nominee which is truly surprising, not the pro-Trump numbers. Yes, Cruz won the Texas Republican primary with 43.8 percent of the vote, but the primaries are over. Trump is not only the nominee — he has been coronated by the Republican National Convention. Even so, a bare majority of Texans support him as their nominee, while 38 percent still prefer Ted Cruz! That's only 5 points less than in the primary.

Also, Cruz's current decline in popularity is not surprising, either. He lost the primary, and did not endorse Trump. Furthermore, the Republican nominee has decidedly continued his attacks against him, going so far as to support a primary challenge in 2018. So long as Trump stands atop the GOP, many Republicans will feel it their duty to cast aspersions on his most vocal challenger. Then again, this shift in Trump's immigration strategy might shift the winds in Cruz's favor.

Furthermore, long presidential campaigns distract from the work that senators have been doing on Capitol Hill. Cruz was more active in the Senate than Marco Rubio during the campaign, but even so, his campaign efforts were in the public eye, while his Senate business very much was not. Shortly after the end of the campaign, many Texas voters undoubtedly saw Cruz as a campaigner more than as a senator, and this partially accounts for the low job approval rating.

This is not to say that Cruz does not have his own problems. The Texas senator often speaks like a Southern Baptist preacher and his mannerisms have turned off many people. Many Republicans distrust him because he has been so vocal against members of his own party, and while those of us who consider him a stalwart warrior for conservatism may defend his prickly demeanor, we do not delude ourselves into thinking the Republican Party could easily unite behind him.

Even so, Cruz is far from dead. If Trump loses in November, Cruz's stock in the GOP will likely go up. The very fact that Trump considered it worthwhile to praise Perry as a possible 2018 challenger suggests the Republican nominee still thinks Cruz worth his attention. After the Trump's recent shift on immigration, I emphatically agree.

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70 days to the POTUS election, and Trump is trying to manipulate senate elections 2 years from now against a political enemy.

Trump's absolute obsession with Cruz is psychotic.  Glad in a few months he will be going down in flames.
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Only one challenger stands a chance against Cruz, and that person is none other than the longest serving governor in Texas' history. Rick Perry, who served as governor for 16 years, and whose approval rating did not take a hit despite a formal indictment in 2014, would certainly be stiff competition for any office in the Lone Star State.

The author doesn't know Texas politics.  Perry took over for Bush midterm in 2000, so he only served 14 years.  Everyone except the delusional liberal knew that the charges were BS. 

Perry was a Democrat up until 1988 even serving as Gore's  Texas campaign chair.  He's not an intuitive conservative, but usually gets there eventually.  He's the good ole boy who will toe the party line.  Cruz would wipe the floor with him in a debate.  Perry may get the moderate vote and crossover democrats, but I don't think it'll be enough to beat Cruz.

Also, I don't think Perry is the type to challenge a standing Senator from his own party.
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Also, I don't think Perry is the type to challenge a standing Senator from his own party.

I don't see it happening either. When Perry dropped out, many from his campaign team took to twitter to praise Ted Cruz for running a classy race and treating Rick Perry with dignity. On that day Ted Cruz also donated a sizable sum of money in Perry's name to the foundation Taya Kyle runs.

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Trump is still busy trying to stamp out the last vestiges of conservatism.

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Trump is still busy trying to stamp out the last vestiges of conservatism.

And his blind followers stand shoulder to shoulder with him as he does.

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If Donny is supporting Perry now, in two years he will be supporting Cruz. If Donny is one thing, he is a liar. Liars lie.

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The author doesn't know Texas politics.  Perry took over for Bush midterm in 2000, so he only served 14 years.  Everyone except the delusional liberal knew that the charges were BS. 

Perry was a Democrat up until 1988 even serving as Gore's  Texas campaign chair.  He's not an intuitive conservative, but usually gets there eventually.  He's the good ole boy who will toe the party line.  Cruz would wipe the floor with him in a debate.  Perry may get the moderate vote and crossover democrats, but I don't think it'll be enough to beat Cruz.

Also, I don't think Perry is the type to challenge a standing Senator from his own party.

Rick Perry hates losing and is smart enough to know that he would get his ass handed him if he undertook such a foolhardy thing.
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Only seventy days remain between now and Election day, yet Trump continues to campaign against Ted Cruz.
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If Donny is supporting Perry now, in two years he will be supporting Cruz. If Donny is one thing, he is a liar. Liars lie.

You know something? God has a perverse sense of humor. Think about it for a sec. Aside from the fact that Hillary Clinton is what she is, An America hating POS, she will be saving America from someone as screwed up and twisted as she is.

The Perverseness being that 'saving' will result in a lot of grief for the people that tried electing her opponent. So ultimately, America wins When Hillary unleashes hell on the Trumpites and they are forced to either respond or cower in a hole while she rifles their bank accounts and sends BLM types to visit.

Since we conservatives arent needed, we can spend our time preparing for when that catfight is over. The Trumpites bought us time.

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Only seventy days remain between now and Election day, yet Trump continues to campaign against Ted Cruz.

Yep, it's insane, right?

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Rick Perry hates losing and is smart enough to know that he would get his ass handed him if he undertook such a foolhardy thing.

It looks like he's packed up his political career if he's really going to be Dancing with the Stars.
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It looks like he's packed up his political career if he's really going to be Dancing with the Stars.

Appearing in a reality show is the new bonifides to running for office in the GOP.
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Appearing in a reality show is the new bonifides to running for office in the GOP.

Yep, He'll be on the "New Apprentice" with Arnold next.

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The author doesn't know Texas politics.  Perry took over for Bush midterm in 2000, so he only served 14 years.  Everyone except the delusional liberal knew that the charges were BS. 

Perry was a Democrat up until 1988 even serving as Gore's  Texas campaign chair.  He's not an intuitive conservative, but usually gets there eventually.  He's the good ole boy who will toe the party line.  Cruz would wipe the floor with him in a debate.  Perry may get the moderate vote and crossover democrats, but I don't think it'll be enough to beat Cruz.

Also, I don't think Perry is the type to challenge a standing Senator from his own party.

Perry stood against Texas when he tried to ram down our throats the Mexican highway and confiscate thousands of acres of private property so he could benefit Mexican commerce.

I still see signs against Perry when I travel through East Texas.
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Rick Perry hates losing and is smart enough to know that he would get his ass handed him if he undertook such a foolhardy thing.

That does stand in contrast to most Aggies, doesn't it?  Most thought they would rule the SEC.
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For a man who is poison I don't see any rejections of a Ted Cruz endorsement from candidates.

I don't love Marco Rubio but Ted Cruz endorsed him the other day as well as endorsing Dan Bongino.

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70 days to the POTUS election, and Trump is trying to manipulate senate elections 2 years from now against a political enemy.

Trump's absolute obsession with Cruz is psychotic.  Glad in a few months he will be going down in flames.

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That does stand in contrast to most Aggies, doesn't it?  Most thought they would rule the SEC.

Most posters on Aggie websites were surprised at the early football success and expecting a longer road to build up depth through recruiting.  The Mississippi schools are performing higher than expected but will step back after their violations.  The longterm outlook seems to be to finish in the upper half of the conference with an occasional breakout year.  The hope this year is for a 9-10 win season with an improved defense and a new OC.  If they don't get to 8 wins, then a new coach may be on the way.
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If Donny is supporting Perry now, in two years he will be supporting Cruz. If Donny is one thing, he is a liar. Liars lie.

I disagree. Trump is vindictive. He will never let it go. Sen Cruz did not offer his support after Trump won the nomination and Trump will fight to destroy him for the rest of Sen Cruz's career in politics. This type of behavior should frighten every Trump supporter. Since the GOP convention I haven't read of any negative comments on Trump by Sen Cruz. I have read that Sen Cruz has gone to campaign events supporting conservatives running for the House and Senate, but nothing else. Sen Cruz is a class act in a period of time where classless behavior is dominant.
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I disagree. Trump is vindictive. He will never let it go. Sen Cruz did not offer his support after Trump won the nomination and Trump will fight to destroy him for the rest of Sen Cruz's career in politics. This type of behavior should frighten every Trump supporter. Since the GOP convention I haven't read of any negative comments on Trump by Sen Cruz. I have read that Sen Cruz has gone to campaign events supporting conservatives running for the House and Senate, but nothing else. Sen Cruz is a class act in a period of time where classless behavior is dominant.

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Only seventy days remain between now and Election day, yet Trump continues to campaign against Ted Cruz.

This obsession is a strong indicator that Trump is mentally unstable, as are a lot of his supporters.  No rational candidate would still be so fixated on his opponent long after that candidate has won. 

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This obsession is a strong indicator that Trump is mentally unstable, as are a lot of his supporters.  No rational candidate would still be so fixated on his opponent long after that candidate has won.

A rational candidate who stood a chance to pick up 7 million voters with a simple apology, wouldn't think twice about showing a little humility.  It's all a matter of focusing on the goal of winning the election.


But that leads one to conclude that either Trump isn't rational, or his goal isn't to win.
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A rational candidate who stood a chance to pick up 7 million voters with a simple apology, wouldn't think twice about showing a little humility.  It's all a matter of focusing on the goal of winning the election.


But that leads one to conclude that either Trump isn't rational, or his goal isn't to win.

Exactly right.
You can't spread the Enquirer story about Cruz's father 3 times, 1 being the day after the convention, and expect it all to go away.
All it took was one small gesture, an apology, and Trump just couldn't bring himself to do it.
Meanwhile, Cruz doesn't slam Trump, and is trying to help other conservatives win.

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