Why the alt-right isn’t wrong - Spectator.co.uk

[TomSea]

Spectator from the UK? Anyway, I don't think anyone here as ever talked about the so-called "alt-right". Even if the author has a valid point, the rhetoric of the alt-right is outright hateful.  I think Spectator.co.uk may well be a respected website and publication.

Disclaimer: Some colorful language in the article.

Why the alt-right isn’t wrong
The Trump-supporting vigilantes of conservatism dismiss the mainstream as spineless cuckolds

I got told off this week by a presenter on BBC radio for using a four-letter word live on air. In my defence, I was merely quoting a tweet from a black Hollywood comedy star called Leslie Jones which said: ‘Lord have mercy… white people <snipped>.’ And the only reason I did so was that I thought it important that someone, somewhere, spoke out against the double standards which seem to exist on social media right now: one rule for progressives and accepted victim groups; quite another for everyone else.

A good example is the ban recently imposed by Twitter on my friend and colleague Milo Yiannopoulos. Milo had got into a public spat with Jones when he goaded her over the awfulness of her new movie, an all-female remake of Ghostbusters. Nothing he said matched the borderline racism and incitement to mob bullying in some of Jones’s tweets. Yet guess which party it was that ended up being booted permanently off Twitter…

This is why I took very strong exception to a piece written by Brendan O’Neill on Coffee House condemning Milo and his Twitter followers as ‘alt-right angries, convinced the world is one big lefty, feminist plot to ruin your average white dude’s life’ and ‘as anti-PC, bedroom-bound fans of Trump and strangers to sexual intercourse’. It seems to me that if you’re going to campaign for fairness and free speech — as Brendan frequently and heroically does — then you need correctly to identify the true enemy.

To help you understand what’s going on, I’d like you to cast your minds back to the Eighties and the era of ‘political correctness gone mad’. At the time, we thought it was so loopy it would disappear up its own bottom. Instead, it continued to get worse and worse, leading to lunacies like the nursery schools in Oxfordshire teaching kids to sing about ‘Baa Baa Rainbow Sheep’, and thence to nonsense like the ‘safe spaces’ promoted on university campuses for a generation of special snowflakes, as well as to vexatious campaigns like the one conducted at Oxford by anti-white race hustlers known as Rhodes Must Fall.

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[JustPassinThru]

The "Alt-Right" is anything but.  It's Neo-Fascist - with a racist component.

We can fight against the racialist Left without getting into their sewer, promoting white racism.

[Frank Cannon]

When your argument involves defending the exploits of a genuine piece of racists human garbage like Milo Yiannopoulos, you already lost.

[JustPassinThru]

When your argument involves defending the exploits of a genuine piece of racists human garbage like Milo Yiannopoulos, you already lost.

I've been waiting for this.  This overt racism from the White House, the blackened bureaucracy, the Democrat party, and BLM and other agitation groups...eventually there'd be backlash.

I guess I should have expected they'd try and appropriate the terms "Right" or conservative.  It wasn't logical, but I was hoping they'd stick to their Klan bedsheets...keep serious people out of it...

[EasyAce]

Anyway, I don't think anyone here as ever talked about the so-called "alt-right".

The alt-right has been mentioned and talked on this site more than you might have noticed. And it's gotten
a lot of attention in the press otherwise, not just from the Spectator. (Some of the following articles
may have been used for discussion threads here, I don't recall right off which of them were . . .)

Alt-Right Enters the Political Limelight
What Is the Alt-Right?
You Can't Whitewash the Alt-Right's Bigotry
Is the Alt-Right for Real?
The Racist Moral Rot at the Heart of the Alt-Right
The Alt-Right Gets Its Marching Orders to Go After a Different Religious Minority
What, Exactly, is the 'Alternative Right'
Trump hands his campaign to the alt-right movement
The naked truth about the alt-right movement

[EasyAce]

@TomSea

Ran a search of the site. Found these previous threads:

RNC Closes Live YouTube Chat After Trump-Loving Alt-Right Refuses To Stop Jew-Bashing
Alt-Right Rejoices at Trump's Steve Bannon Hire
Yes, the Alt-Right are Just a Bunch of Racists
How to Explain the Alt-Right to Friends

Those are just thread titles showing the alt-right. If you run a search on "alt-right" without establishing particular
parameters, you'll get a huge number of threads (going back quite a few months) in which the alt-right is mentioned
and discussed even if it doesn't show up in a thread title.

[mountaineer]

The Alt-Right Isn’t Conservative:

Today, Hillary Clinton will seek to leash Donald Trump to the explicitly racist and anti-Semitic movement that is infatuated with him: the “alt-right.” By bringing on Breitbart News chief Steve Bannon to serve as his campaign’s CEO—the operational manager of a website that explicitly caters to this movement—Trump has made her job all too easy. Clinton’s task politically will be to educate the country on what the alt-right is and to set the terms of the discussion in a way that will force Trump either to defend himself or defend the alt-right.

The question is whether she will contend that this noxious movement is just another element of conservatism writ large. That would be a lie. The alt-right is not conservative. It rejects conservatism explicitly, and not just because most conservatives have rejected them.

You wouldn’t know this from the media. “Hillary Clinton takes aim at Donald Trump’s ties to ‘alt-right’ world of radical conservatives,” the L.A. Times declared. “‘Alt right’ conservative movement embraces the Trump campaign,” Fox News contended. These are misstatements of fact. The alt-right doesn’t subscribe to a conservative philosophy, nor do its members brand themselves conservatives. Indeed, they believe conservatism to be a failed ideology that needs to be replaced by something far more authoritarian.

This is a movement that rejects conservative policy prescriptions ranging from the need to reform entitlements to the very idea of limited government. They mock reverence for the Constitution as mere idol worship. The limitations the Constitution imposes on the federal government represent an unacceptable impediment to their preferred program. They reject the notion of an extroverted American foreign policy, preferring instead the appeal of retrenchment and the fantasy of Fortress America. This is a movement that mocks social conservatism, defined as reverence for traditional mores and values, as backward religiosity.   ...

Click on link for rest of article from Commentary Magazine.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

The Alt-Right Isn’t Conservative:Click on link for rest of article from Commentary Magazine.

Conservatism is based in the concept that all men are created equal and that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights. The Alt Right rejects this founding concept. Yes say what you want about the founders and the slave issue, but conservatives have, throughout history, tried to bring that premise to fruition.   

[Cripplecreek]

The alt-right has been mentioned and talked on this site more than you might have noticed. And it's gotten
a lot of attention in the press otherwise, not just from the Spectator. (Some of the following articles
may have been used for discussion threads here, I don't recall right off which of them were . . .)

Pretending that they don't exist seems to be the new direction Trumpers are being shepherded toward.

Its nothing but pure unadulterated cowardice.

[JustPassinThru]

Gawd, we are deep in it.

On the one hand we have a WIFE of a former corrupt President, whose own corruption and dishonesty and incompetence are only exceeded by her impairment due to poor health, possibly terminal.

The ALTERNATIVE is this guy being now pushed by this vague movement...seemingly neo-fascist, neo-Nazi, racialist...who himself won't even state his positions or principles.

This has to rival the tragedy faced by Wiemar President Paul Hindenburg as he was facing the unstoppable movement of Adolf Hitler to the office of Chancellor.  Hindenburg knew what the former corporal with a felony record was; but he was dying and unable to rally an opposition.

[Idaho_Cowboy]

Gawd, we are deep in it.

On the one hand we have a WIFE of a former corrupt President, whose own corruption and dishonesty and incompetence are only exceeded by her impairment due to poor health, possibly terminal.

The ALTERNATIVE is this guy being now pushed by this vague movement...seemingly neo-fascist, neo-Nazi, racialist...who himself won't even state his positions or principles.

This has to rival the tragedy faced by Wiemar President Paul Hindenburg as he was facing the unstoppable movement of Adolf Hitler to the office of Chancellor.  Hindenburg knew what the former corporal with a felony record was; but he was dying and unable to rally an opposition.

I might get a bumper sticker:
2016 WE'VE BEEN HAD!