Bennett: #NeverTrump-ers put vanity above country; ‘Terrible case of moral superiority’

[HonestJohn]

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/430187/william-f-buckley-donald-trump-demagoguery-cigar-aficionado

The most obvious target in today’s lineup is, of course, Donald Trump. When he looks at a glass, he is mesmerized by its reflection. If Donald Trump were shaped a little differently, he would compete for Miss America. But whatever the depths of self-enchantment, the demagogue has to say something. So what does Trump say? That he is a successful businessman and that that is what America needs in the Oval Office. There is some plausibility in this, though not much. The greatest deeds of American Presidents — midwifing the new republic; freeing the slaves; harnessing the energies and vision needed to win the Cold War — had little to do with a bottom line.

So what else can Trump offer us? Well to begin with, a self-financed campaign. Does it follow that all who finance their own campaigns are narcissists? At this writing Steve Forbes has spent $63 million in pursuit of the Republican nomination. Forbes is an evangelist, not an exhibitionist. In his long and sober private career, Steve Forbes never bought a casino, and if he had done so, he would not have called it Forbes’s Funhouse. His motivations are discernibly selfless. . . .

William F Buckley saw through Trump 16 years ago.

Modern 'conservatives' hate Buckley.

Why, earlier in this election cycle, some were asking "What is conservatism?" 

And when I responded with Buckley, they began to foam at the mouth.

Today, conservatism is the "Birth of a Nation" crowd.  Anything else is not welcome.

[DCPatriot]

It is really hard to take this site some times. All I keep hearing are two distinct groups.

One group of people are dealing with reality as it exists, right now, today.

The other group is insisting that because something that was supposed to happen months ago, did not happen the way they wanted it to, that nothing that they do after that fateful day matters.

There is no way possible to undo the past. Saying that you have no responsibility for your actions in the present, in a given situation, is the most ridiculous argument ever.

You are always responsible for the results of your actions. It doesn't matter to me which decision you make, but for the sake of reason, at least accept what you are doing. If you do not vote for Trump, you are actively making a decision to help Hillary, especially if you start campaigning against the Republican nominee. It is not complicated. It is not an opinion. It is not even debatable. That is the reality we are all facing. At least own up to what you are doing.

This "not my fault" victim-hood argument is driving me crazy. The wife beater always says, "It's not my fault. I didn't want to. She made me do it."

 

That's EXACTLY right.   Own up to your ridiculously stupid and selfish decisions.   Morons.

[DCPatriot]

I'm tired of this crap.

Let's put it this way: WE DON'T GIVE A RAT'S ASS WHAT YOU THINK.

How's that? 

Clear it up any for you?

What do you intend to do about it?

Put a gun to our heads and force us to vote for your dictator?

Or shoot us for treason because we will not vote the way you demand?




You all act like a bunch of freaking storm-trooping tyrants, the lot of you.

 

Yeah....that's what we want to do.      "Shoot you for treason"....

[DCPatriot]

This election was lost in the primaries, when a plurality of people decided to support the one individual who consistently polled behind Clinton in a head-to-head General election.

Assigning the blame for the loss is all that's left to be done at this point.

Trump is already setting in place the "rigged system" narrative to blame for his loss. The GOP is blaming Trump's lack of discipline. His supporters are blaming those who don't support him, and his detractors are blaming his supporters.

The ONE thing they all have in common, is that they are all anticipating a Hillary victory.

BFD, Luis.

You either vote for the GOP Nominee or you're making it easier for Hillary.   Own it!

Reagan supposedly polled the same way in August/September, 1980.

Either vote for the GOP Nominee or get Ronald Reagan picture off our masthead.

[Jazzhead]

You either vote for the GOP Nominee or you're making it easier for Hillary.   Own it!

This has nothing to do with vanity.   This has nothing to do with sore-loserism.

All Trump has to do is show he's not more dangerous than Hillary.   He hasn't done so.  He hasn't made the sale, at the most basic of levels.   

[Jazzhead]

Either vote for the GOP Nominee or get Ronald Reagan picture off our masthead.

Reagan would turn his head in disgust at Donald Trump.   

[Luis Gonzalez]

BFD, Luis.

You either vote for the GOP Nominee or you're making it easier for Hillary.   Own it!

Reagan supposedly polled the same way in August/September, 1980.

Either vote for the GOP Nominee or get Ronald Reagan picture off our masthead.

You made it easier for Hillary when you chose to support an unelectable loose cannon with the worst negatives of any politician in history, no tangible plan in place to run a national campaign, no real understanding of how our government works and who's consistently polled behind Hillary in the national polls average since before he entered the race.

When you campaigned and voted for Trump, you campaigned and voted for Hillary.

Don't expect me to own the consequences of your actions.

They were after all, your freely-chosen actions. 

[Night Hides Not]

You made it easier for Hillary when you chose to support an unelectable loose cannon with the worst negatives of any politician in history, no tangible plan in place to run a national campaign, no real understanding of how our government works and who's consistently polled behind Hillary in the national polls average since before he entered the race.

When you campaigned and voted for Trump, you campaigned and voted for Hillary.

Don't expect me to own the consequences of your actions.

They were after all, your freely-chosen actions.

Put another way, "Look in the mirror, and ask yourself whether I could ever think that my moral stature is at the mercy of your actions. "  John Galt

All I ask is that Trump exorcise the petulant boy lurking inside of him. That's all. He hasn't proven that to me.

[sinkspur]

[sinkspur]

BFD, Luis.

You either vote for the GOP Nominee or you're making it easier for Hillary.   Own it!

Reagan supposedly polled the same way in August/September, 1980.

Either vote for the GOP Nominee or get Ronald Reagan picture off our masthead.

Nope.

[skeeter]

That's EXACTLY right.   Own up to your ridiculously stupid and selfish decisions.   Morons.

My thoughts exactly.

[aligncare]

@musiclady

It's a mystery how you don't choke on your sanctimony.     

A few days late ...but, this post from DC made me smile, so I just had to quote It here.

YOU ROCK, DC!  (This is where I would have posted a head-banger emoji, but it seems the available emojis have been cut back for some reason? Hmm?)

[aligncare]

My sole point was that I'm on record as saying in the Summer of 15, that he wasn't going to deport them wholesale...and wouldn't be surprised if "The Wall" isn't completed.
   

And no matter how dark you want to paint Donald Trump....he's a ray of sunshine next to Hillary.

You're on a roll, DC!!!

[Bigun]

[aligncare]

...why would anybody even want to talk to these losers who call themselves "#NeverTrump."

What a thoroughly ill-considered, ill-conceived and discredited "movement."

[Bigun]

[sinkspur]

...why would anybody even want to talk to these losers who call themselves "#NeverTrump."

What a thoroughly ill-considered, ill-conceived and discredited "movement."

Then why are you wetting your pants over #NeverTrump?

I'll tell you why.  You need somebody to blame beside yourself when Trump crashes on November 8.

An MD couldn't get snookered, right?

[aligncare]

It has certainly been enlightening, as well as entertaining for all of us here in TBR to see just what a piece of work into which you've evolved.

I have disdain for all "one-issue" voters, hiding behind so-called 'principles'.

Anybody that would take a chance on Hillary getting elected by declining to vote for the GOP Nominee is a Class A putz as far as I'm concerned.

Just, wow!

It looks to me like your dam burst! Damn, I wish I could be this honest with #NeverTrumpers here at TBR. But, I know if I were, I'd probably cross the line.  Censorship, you know.

[Luis Gonzalez]

"Son"?   Don't condescend me.

Get lost.

That was uncalled for.

Calling you son as if he were your superior.

Uncalled for.

He should stick to more socially acceptable terms like "Class A putz".

Just saying.

[andy58-in-nh]

...you chose to support an unelectable loose cannon with the worst negatives of any politician in history, no tangible plan in place to run a national campaign, no real understanding of how our government works and who's consistently polled behind Hillary in the national polls average since before he entered the race.

Well, that's just nitpicking, isn't it? 

I was reminded of this scene from This Is Spinal Tap:

Marty DiBergi: "This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry."

Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?

[Night Hides Not]

Just, wow!

It looks to me like your dam burst! Damn, I wish I could be this honest with #NeverTrumpers here at TBR. But, I know if I were, I'd probably cross the line.  Censorship, you know.

Let's see if I have this straight, a person with nearly 18,000 posts is complaining there is censorship on this forum?

[mystery-ak]

If the tone of this thread and personal insults don't stop I am locking it...enough already!

[Night Hides Not]

Well, that's just nitpicking, isn't it? 

I was reminded of this scene from This Is Spinal Tap:

Marty DiBergi: "This tasteless cover is a good indication of the lack of musical invention within. The musical growth of this band cannot even be charted. They are treading water in a sea of retarded sexuality and bad poetry."

Nigel Tufnel: That's just nitpicking, isn't it?

O/T, if you like Spinal Tap, you'll also enjoy Still Crazy. Great cast, great soundtrack.

[Night Hides Not]

If the tone of this thread and personal insults don't stop I am locking it...enough already!

I won't stand in your way. This is probably the first presidential campaign where none of the candidates has appealed to me, and my first vote was in 1972. With the exception of Hillary or the Green party candidate, I don't care.

[r9etb]

If the tone of this thread and personal insults don't stop I am locking it...enough already!

It might be a mercy.... there's nothing new being said.