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<Just don't be manipulated into thinking the choice is binary.>

Hate to break this to everyone, but it is binary.  In one way that stinks, but in another, thank God it's only binary.  I don't want a European style choice of 37 different parties.
There aren't 37 choices, actually, aside from Republicrats and Democans, I counted 68 parties to choose from:
        America First Party
        America's Party
        America's Third Party
        American Eagle Party
        American Freedom Party
        American Independent Party
        American Nazi Party
        American Party
        Citizens Party
        Communist Party
        Conservative Party
        Constitution Party
        Country Party
        Cyber Party
        Democratic-Republican Party
        Freedom Socialist Party
        Grassroots Party
        Green Party
        Independence Party of Florida
        Independence Party of Minnesota
        Independence Party of New York
        Independent American Party
        Independent Green Party
        Independent Party of Connecticut
        Independent Party of Delaware
        Independent Party of Oregon
        Iowa Party
        Justice Party
        Labor Party
        Legalize Marijuana Party
        Liberal Party
        Libertarian Party
        Liberty Union Party
        Light Party
        Marijuana Party
        Moderate Party
        Modern Whig Party
        National Socialist Movement
        Natural Law Party
        New Hampshire Liberty Party
        New Independent Party
        Objectivist Party
        Oregon Progressive Party
        Pacifist Party
        Party for Socialism and Liberation
        Peace and Freedom Party
        Pirate Party
        Prohibition Party
        Reform Party
        Rent Is Too Damn High Party
        Sapient Party
        Social Democrats USA
        Socialist Action
        Socialist Alternative
        Socialist Equality Party
        Socialist Labor Party
        Socialist Party
        Socialist Workers Party
        Tax Wall Street Party
        Transhumanist Party
        Twelve Visions Party
        United Independent Party
        Unity Party
        Vermont Progressive Party
        Veterans Party
        Women's Equality Party
        Workers World Party
        Working Families Party

https://amthirdpartyreport.com/category/constitution-party/

Scroll down the sidebar on the right, but these are just the ones with web links.

Of these, the Libertarian, Reform, Green, and Constitution Parties are the top 4.

Frankly, my favorite is the Constitution Party, but when I say I am a Conservative, I believe much of the Constitution as amended is a great framework, and that we should return to it. I'd repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments, though, and restore even that to something closer to the Founders' well thought out structure for a Government, and rein in the FedGov, back to its assigned duties and return the functions and powers it has usurped to the States and the people.

So, there are only six parties in play, not the full 70, which should be quite a relief for you.

We had three parties represented in the Congress before (that's right, Bernie Sanders was listed as a Socialist).
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Twelve Visions Party?  :shrug:

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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Yep. Here's their website: http://tvpnc.org/

and their platform:http://tvpnc.org/Prime_Documents/TVP%20National%20Platform.pdf

Make All the People Rich, Including the Poor, the premier (and timeless) National Platform of the Twelve Visions Party, opens the mind-space to visualize a Twelve-Visions World.

Far out man

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Make All the People Rich, Including the Poor, the premier (and timeless) National Platform of the Twelve Visions Party, opens the mind-space to visualize a Twelve-Visions World.

Far out man
It is just one of the plethora of visions for America out there. I like the Constitution Party, myself.
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Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Trump might be the perfect President for 2017. If he really is a liberal Republican, maybe Ryan and McConnell can actually resist his agenda, or at least  pretend to enough to throw Republican citizens a bone now and again.

They would never resist anything clinton wants to do.

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There aren't 37 choices, actually, aside from Republicrats and Democans, I counted 68 parties to choose from:
        America First Party
        America's Party
        America's Third Party
        American Eagle Party
        American Freedom Party
        American Independent Party
        American Nazi Party
        American Party
        Citizens Party
        Communist Party
        Conservative Party
        Constitution Party
        Country Party
        Cyber Party
        Democratic-Republican Party
        Freedom Socialist Party
        Grassroots Party
        Green Party
        Independence Party of Florida
        Independence Party of Minnesota
        Independence Party of New York
        Independent American Party
        Independent Green Party
        Independent Party of Connecticut
        Independent Party of Delaware
        Independent Party of Oregon
        Iowa Party
        Justice Party
        Labor Party
        Legalize Marijuana Party
        Liberal Party
        Libertarian Party
        Liberty Union Party
        Light Party
        Marijuana Party
        Moderate Party
        Modern Whig Party
        National Socialist Movement
        Natural Law Party
        New Hampshire Liberty Party
        New Independent Party
        Objectivist Party
        Oregon Progressive Party
        Pacifist Party
        Party for Socialism and Liberation
        Peace and Freedom Party
        Pirate Party
        Prohibition Party
        Reform Party
        Rent Is Too Damn High Party
        Sapient Party
        Social Democrats USA
        Socialist Action
        Socialist Alternative
        Socialist Equality Party
        Socialist Labor Party
        Socialist Party
        Socialist Workers Party
        Tax Wall Street Party
        Transhumanist Party
        Twelve Visions Party
        United Independent Party
        Unity Party
        Vermont Progressive Party
        Veterans Party
        Women's Equality Party
        Workers World Party
        Working Families Party

https://amthirdpartyreport.com/category/constitution-party/

Scroll down the sidebar on the right, but these are just the ones with web links.

Of these, the Libertarian, Reform, Green, and Constitution Parties are the top 4.

Frankly, my favorite is the Constitution Party, but when I say I am a Conservative, I believe much of the Constitution as amended is a great framework, and that we should return to it. I'd repeal the 16th and 17th Amendments, though, and restore even that to something closer to the Founders' well thought out structure for a Government, and rein in the FedGov, back to its assigned duties and return the functions and powers it has usurped to the States and the people.

So, there are only six parties in play, not the full 70, which should be quite a relief for you.

We had three parties represented in the Congress before (that's right, Bernie Sanders was listed as a Socialist).

You forgot the Cheese Party.

http://cheeseparty.org/

And the American Pirate Party

http://uspirates.org/

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You forgot the Cheese Party.

http://cheeseparty.org/

And the American Pirate Party

http://uspirates.org/
Well, at least cheese is binding. I got a flag that the Pirate party site was not secure. Go figure.
How God must weep at humans' folly! Stand fast! God knows what he is doing!
Seventeen Techniques for Truth Suppression

Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

C S Lewis

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Trump might be the perfect President for 2017. If he really is a liberal Republican, maybe Ryan and McConnell can actually resist his agenda, or at least  pretend to enough to throw Republican citizens a bone now and again.

They would never resist anything clinton wants to do.

He's not a liberal republican, he's a liberal, period, a NYC liberal (second only to California liberals).  I.e., no actual policy differences with Clinton when it comes right down to it.

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