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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #75 on: August 18, 2016, 10:03:07 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 09:53:33 pm
Well, I don't have anything but Swedish in me, and that doesn't mean I have any less American credentials than you do.

The idea that you have more authority here in this country because of your pedigree belies everything this country stands for.

Your braggadocio reveals your lack of understanding of what this country was founded on.
OMG you just crack me up ML  :mauslaff: Where do you get this sh8t from? Thanks I needed a good laugh.  :seeya:
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #76 on: August 18, 2016, 10:12:49 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 09:53:33 pm

Your braggadocio reveals your lack of understanding of what this country was founded on.

It IS trumpanian though...... Braggadocio. I see why they connect.

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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #77 on: August 18, 2016, 10:20:24 pm »
Quote from: flowers on August 18, 2016, 10:03:07 pm
OMG you just crack me up ML  :mauslaff: Where do you get this sh8t from? Thanks I needed a good laugh.  :seeya:

Obviously.....the point she was making whooshed right on over your little head.  But it's nice that you can laugh about it.  It's pretty much 'all' you can do, in fact.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #78 on: August 18, 2016, 10:21:55 pm »
Quote from: Fantom on August 18, 2016, 10:12:49 pm

Me, I am but a Simple Bricklayer. The second best one evah.. but a Simple Bricklayer non the less.  8888forgot

Ungh... Two things I have endeavored never to do again: Cleaning concrete forms, and haulin' hod. I salute you, but none for me thx...
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #79 on: August 18, 2016, 10:27:39 pm »
Quote from: roamer_1 on August 18, 2016, 10:21:55 pm
Ungh... Two things I have endeavored never to do again: Cleaning concrete forms, and haulin' hod. I salute you, but none for me thx...

Five generations , Father to Son, here in America alone. My Son is #6 on this list...probably is child abuse at some point. 
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #80 on: August 18, 2016, 10:34:53 pm »
Quote from: flowers on August 18, 2016, 10:03:07 pm
OMG you just crack me up ML  :mauslaff: Where do you get this sh8t from? Thanks I needed a good laugh.  :seeya:

I ask again.......... what happened to the flowers who used to use your name?  What happened to the nice person who used to post here?

Where did she go??

(That is a dead serious question, @flowers ).
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #81 on: August 18, 2016, 10:36:23 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 18, 2016, 10:20:24 pm
Obviously.....the point she was making whooshed right on over your little head.  But it's nice that you can laugh about it.  It's pretty much 'all' you can do, in fact.

It's not laughter, it's derision.

It's Trump "humor."  It's Obama "humor." It's leftist "humor."  It's devoid of intellect and character.

But you're right.  It's all they have......
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #82 on: August 18, 2016, 10:37:28 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:34:53 pm
I ask again.......... what happened to the flowers who used to use your name?  What happened to the nice person who used to post here?

Where did she go??

(That is a dead serious question, @flowers ).

I'll take.."trump Poisoning" for $500.00
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #83 on: August 18, 2016, 10:39:05 pm »
Quote from: Fantom on August 18, 2016, 10:12:49 pm
It IS trumpanian though...... Braggadocio. I see why they connect.

Me, I am but a Simple Bricklayer. The second best one evah.. but a Simple Bricklayer non the less.  8888forgot

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I see that they are connecting with Trump, but what I wonder is, were they all this mean and arrogant before Trump and hid it from us, or has he changed them from nice people to nasty?
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #84 on: August 18, 2016, 10:40:58 pm »
Quote from: Fantom on August 18, 2016, 10:37:28 pm
I'll take.."trump Poisoning" for $500.00

I wish you had known some of these people before they were poisoned.  I had so much in common with them.  The same values for the most part; the ability to carry on civil conversations....

They really have been poisoned by this mad man.

I hope they come back when this election is all over.  I miss the people I thought I knew.....
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"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #85 on: August 18, 2016, 10:43:13 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:36:23 pm
It's not laughter, it's derision.

It's Trump "humor."  It's Obama "humor." It's leftist "humor."  It's devoid of intellect and character.

But you're right.  It's all they have......

And it's the only semblance and/or substitute they ever have for humor....is when they are mocking others...

a la Trump-style....all the way.

I posit that perhaps they were never 'nice people' before Trump.  They just took the easiest path....that being it's much easier to take the low road than to stick to your values, assuming that they ever had any values to stick to.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #86 on: August 18, 2016, 10:45:48 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:40:58 pm
I wish you had known some of these people before they were poisoned.  I had so much in common with them.  The same values for the most part; the ability to carry on civil conversations....

They really have been poisoned by this mad man.

I hope they come back when this election is all over.  I miss the people I thought I knew.....

I am sad and dismayed that a friend I've had for 30 years, more like a sister, has now leaped upon the Trump Train because the false prophets Copelands claim he's God's "chosen one" to save America.

Good grief.  How stupid could folks be.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #87 on: August 18, 2016, 10:49:27 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 18, 2016, 10:43:13 pm
And it's the only semblance and/or substitute they ever have for humor....is when they are mocking others...

a la Trump-style....all the way.

I posit that perhaps they were never 'nice people' before Trump.  They just took the easiest path....that being it's much easier to take the low road than to stick to your values, assuming that they ever had any values to stick to.

I think some of them did.  I think @flowers did, though I don't really know.

At any rate, I am unfazed by her mockery.  She hasn't posted a decent thing to me in months.  Just nasty derision, and piling on when her bosom buddy posts lies and derision about me.

I just feel badly that she seemingly has turned her back on the values she seemed to have before Trump grabbed her.

It's just sad to see someone go down hill so fast and so far...
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #88 on: August 18, 2016, 10:50:57 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 18, 2016, 10:45:48 pm
I am sad and dismayed that a friend I've had for 30 years, more like a sister, has now leaped upon the Trump Train because the false prophets Copelands claim he's God's "chosen one" to save America.

Good grief.  How stupid could folks be.

They have been deceived by a con man.  They aren't the first, and they won't be the last.

It truly is sad to watch it happen though.

I'm sorry you've lost a friend.  No sleazy politician should have that kind of power over a person's soul.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.

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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #89 on: August 18, 2016, 10:52:00 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:49:27 pm
I think some of them did.  I think @flowers did, though I don't really know.

At any rate, I am unfazed by her mockery.  She hasn't posted a decent thing to me in months.  Just nasty derision, and piling on when her bosom buddy posts lies and derision about me.

I just feel badly that she seemingly has turned her back on the values she seemed to have before Trump grabbed her.

It's just sad to see someone go down hill so fast and so far...

Perhaps they are beginning to suspect, like we have known all along, that they've been "had" by the master con-artist, The Don.  About frickin time, if so.  But the lashing out at those of us that warned them won't help and won't change a damned thing about the impending disaster.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #90 on: August 18, 2016, 10:53:58 pm »
There is no moral cowardice in voting your conscience.  Moral cowardice consists of groupthink, and of voting out of fear, or to go along with the in-crowd.

The only moral cowards here are those Trumpkins who say "well, yes, I agree he's a little sh*t, but he's our little sh*t and he's all we've got."  That's moral cowardice.

And BTW, why are Trumpkins so obtuse that they cannot even grasp the old canard that you get more flies with honey than with vinegar?

If you want us to come around to supporting Trump, then you had damned well better start trying to use persuasion, friendly persuasion, and stop using brownshirt intimidation tactics and disparagement.

Go read "How to Win Friends and Influence People" and then come back here.  Until then, STFU with your authoritarian nonsense.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #91 on: August 18, 2016, 10:54:15 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:50:57 pm
They have been deceived by a con man.  They aren't the first, and they won't be the last.

It truly is sad to watch it happen though.

I'm sorry you've lost a friend.  No sleazy politician should have that kind of power over a person's soul.

And that's the thing.  It's not that I'm losing a friend.  I will probably try to stick by her, nevertheless.  It's the fact that thanks to the frauds like the Copelands, she may be in danger of losing her soul.  That's why Jesus warned about those false prophets in the end days.  I just never thought it would hit someone I knew for that long and that well (or thought I did).
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #92 on: August 18, 2016, 10:56:18 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 18, 2016, 10:52:00 pm
Perhaps they are beginning to suspect, like we have known all along, that they've been "had" by the master con-artist, The Don.  About frickin time, if so.  But the lashing out at those of us that warned them won't help and won't change a damned thing about the impending disaster.

You're probably right.  The flailing and increased nastiness is probably partly due to the frustration that they know now that we were right about Trump, and that they were hornswoggled by his snake oil salesmanship, while we weren't.

The anger is definitely mounting, though.  You can feel it....
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.

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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #93 on: August 18, 2016, 10:58:30 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 18, 2016, 10:52:00 pm
Perhaps they are beginning to suspect, like we have known all along, that they've been "had" by the master con-artist, The Don.  About frickin time, if so.  But the lashing out at those of us that warned them won't help and won't change a damned thing about the impending disaster.


They won't get it even after he's turned on them and proven how empty all of his promises were.  LIVs think elections are reality TV, and Trumpkins are the epitome of LIVs.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #94 on: August 18, 2016, 11:00:49 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:40:58 pm
I wish you had known some of these people before they were poisoned.  I had so much in common with them.  The same values for the most part; the ability to carry on civil conversations....

They really have been poisoned by this mad man.

I hope they come back when this election is all over.  I miss the people I thought I knew.....

Hopefully right.

My two best friends have succumbed. One is now estranged...by his choice. The other... only by setting aside politics, is this  friendship holding.

It is a maddness they are afflicted with. Even in winning that cannot concentrate on the real opponent..Hillary.  They have trump rabies, instead of hydrophobia... it is Cruzaphobia.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #95 on: August 18, 2016, 11:05:26 pm »
Quote from: Fantom on August 18, 2016, 11:00:49 pm
Hopefully right.

My two best friends have succumbed. One is now estranged...by his choice. The other... only by setting aside politics, is this  friendship holding.

It is a maddness they are afflicted with. Even in winning that cannot concentrate on the real opponent..Hillary.  They have trump rabies, instead of hydrophobia... it is Cruzaphobia.

Yeah........ their hatred for Cruz and fixation on him is weird.  I don't get it.

The only time they talk about Hillary seems to be when they're falsely accusing US of supporting her.

It's all weird...

I expect to see Rod Serling on TV and hear the Twilight Zone theme song.......
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #96 on: August 18, 2016, 11:05:50 pm »
Quote from: Oceander on August 18, 2016, 10:58:30 pm
They won't get it even after he's turned on them and proven how empty all of his promises were.  LIVs think elections are reality TV, and Trumpkins are the epitome of LIVs.

For the LIVS... the Looser Mullet class.. like the one Ted tried to reason with in Indiana?.. I think. You are correct.

However many are s'posed to know better and act just like the Mullet class.  We both know some.
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #97 on: August 18, 2016, 11:11:31 pm »
Quote from: musiclady on August 18, 2016, 10:36:23 pm
It's not laughter, it's derision.

It's Trump "humor."  It's Obama "humor." It's leftist "humor."  It's devoid of intellect and character.

But you're right.  It's all they have......

 :amen:  Sad, but so true!
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #98 on: August 18, 2016, 11:14:47 pm »
Quote from: truth_seeker on August 18, 2016, 02:38:06 pm
Enjoy the liberal Supreme Court appointed by Obama=Clinton.

Enjoy diminishing respect in the world, and continued civil disorder under Obama=Clinton.

If Trump/Clinton gets in the outcome will be the same.  Those who vote for Trump/Clinton ARE responsible and no one else!
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Re: The Moral Cowardice of the NeverTrumpumpkins
« Reply #99 on: August 18, 2016, 11:15:46 pm »
Quote from: XenaLee on August 18, 2016, 10:54:15 pm
And that's the thing.  It's not that I'm losing a friend.  I will probably try to stick by her, nevertheless.  It's the fact that thanks to the frauds like the Copelands, she may be in danger of losing her soul.  That's why Jesus warned about those false prophets in the end days.  I just never thought it would hit someone I knew for that long and that well (or thought I did).

Satan is clever, and he's ramping up his evil in these last days.   We're going to see more of this in the coming years.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

"Sometimes I think the Church would be better off if we would call a moratorium on activity for about six weeks and just wait on God to see what He is waiting to do for us. That's what they did before Pentecost."   - A. W. Tozer

Use the time God is giving us to seek His will and feel His presence.
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