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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2016, 08:33:36 pm »
Interesting line.  Zogby has Trump and Hillary tied at 30% among 25-34 year old likely voters.

The anti-Trump sentiment is concentrated with the youngest voters.  Clinton leads 36%-26% with 18-29 years old, but an astounding 59%-22% for 18-24 year olds (in the same Zogby results).
That doesn't seem too far out of line with previous elections.

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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2016, 08:42:19 pm »
2012 was much more winnable than this.

"Winnable"???

If national elections had any legitimacy at this point - Trump would be facing Bernie Sanders, not the Mao Pantsuit.

This is no longer about 'winning'.

This is about creating an illusion of legitimacy.
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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2016, 08:44:47 pm »
Kasich was winning every poll against Hillary.
So was Trump at one point.  You think the MSM didn't have their files ready for Kasich?

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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2016, 08:45:14 pm »
Sorry, but I saw very little difference between Kasich and Hillary.  Kasich is a Democrat in all but name.

If you lived in Ohio, you would see a HUGE difference between Kasich and Hillary.  (Even knowing he's far from being as conservative as we would like).

This state suffered under leftist leadership in Ted Strickland (who IS like Hillary), and Kasich came in with Conservative fiscal, business and tax policies and got rid of our massive debt and created a surplus.

That alone demonstrates light years between the two.

And Kasich would have beaten her in November.
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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2016, 08:49:17 pm »

And Kasich would have beaten her in November.

Nope. He's too liberal.

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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #30 on: August 16, 2016, 08:51:33 pm »
Subversive homosexual propaganda would probably have ensured losing most of my generation anyway. Trump, however, is not helping.
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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #31 on: August 16, 2016, 08:58:59 pm »
Nope. He's too liberal.

Not for the general population.  He impressed a lot of "middle of the road" folks with his interest in working together.  As offensive as that might be for us, it appeals to a vast swath of people hovering near the center, who are appalled by Hillary (and equally or more by Trump).

As you well know, Kasich is too liberal for me, but I'm not a centrist.

He would have beaten Hillary, just on his integrity........ which Trump entirely lacks.
Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: Trump may cost the GOP a generation of voters
« Reply #32 on: August 16, 2016, 09:33:09 pm »
Well we tried that with Romney in 2012 against a vulnerable Obama and it didn't work neither.  I'm sorry I just don't see any of the other candidates winning, all of them had huge flaws as well, that's why none of them could beat out Trump in the end.  Or we would have been stuck with somebody "Dem-Lite", like Kasich.

The problem wasn't the other candidates.  There is no reason to believe John, Ted, Marco, or Jeb would have suffered the type of meltdown Trump is undergoing.  These men had well-developed positions and the experience of winning elections.

At some point, you have to blame the voters.  There was never any chance a disgusting man like Trump would or should be sworn in as President.  We have a serious cultural problem on the right - one that excuses or perhaps identifies with the same character flaws as Trump.  At least part of the coalition does, and there is no hiding it now.