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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #250 on: August 15, 2016, 01:47:45 pm »
This site is quickly approaching the same level of insanity you would find at TOS, just in the opposite direction, but still the same. That is a disappointment to me.

I admit that admire people who have so much free time that they are able to spend all day doing nothing but sitting on this site spewing anti-Trump hate all day. No fun. No jokes. No points. No debates. Just hate, hate, hate, and name-calling all day long. What a way to live. What a life.

I must be one the few here who actually has a life beyond TBR. Speaking of that, it is time for me to get going. I may peek in once in a while to check on how the Trump-Wars are going on TBR. But, I doubt it. I think I've heard enough people called 'heathens', 'poop-head', and of course the now famous, "I'm putting you on ignore!!!" lol

Carry on guys. This is for you, not for me. This stuff is not my style.

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The behavior you're describing has a known etiology, a clinical name and a sound diagnostic rationale.

It's basically a psychological tic, amplified by the emotional investment and egocentricity seen in presidential elections.

Certain people manifest the symptoms but are helpless to prevent its onset.

I've factored that in to how I respond to the insults and ad hominems typical of neverTrump personalities.

I'm sure Mr. Trump has, as well.

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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #251 on: August 15, 2016, 01:49:50 pm »
Stabbing myst in the back, I see.  Tell me, have zots started, or even been threatened?  Or have they been repeatedly disavowed?

I am talking about the type of comments that go directly to persons and caricaturing their beliefs and integrity. This board is becoming eat up with it.


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« Reply #252 on: August 15, 2016, 01:53:57 pm »
I am talking about the type of comments that go directly to persons and caricaturing their beliefs and integrity. This board is becoming eat up with it.

Don-O's comments of the past two days are very admirable. I just want to say that.

I'm a "confrontation avoider" for the most part; say my piece and that's that.


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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #253 on: August 15, 2016, 01:54:36 pm »
I am talking about the type of comments that go directly to persons and caricaturing their beliefs and integrity. This board is becoming eat up with it.

Exactly. It has nothing to do with banning. It has to do with the lack of courtesy and the mentality of new members here attacking every point of discussion about the GOP nominee.

To those of us not afflicted by TDS, it looks like Hillary support - basically either TDS or trolls. Just my clinical opinion.

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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #254 on: August 15, 2016, 01:58:50 pm »
Exactly. It has nothing to do with banning. It has to do with the lack of courtesy and the mentality of new members here attacking every point of discussion about the GOP nominee.

To those of us not afflicted by TDS, it looks like Hillary support - basically either TDS or trolls. Just my clinical opinion.

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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #255 on: August 15, 2016, 02:01:03 pm »
**nononono*   What a steaming load that is!

You should know what that looks like, you dish it out with every post.

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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #256 on: August 15, 2016, 02:01:32 pm »
I am talking about the type of comments that go directly to persons and caricaturing their beliefs and integrity. This board is becoming eat up with it.

That's not just here, it happens everywhere.
Having a political forum and discussing politics is volatile enough, when you bring morality into the mix it takes it to a whole new explosive level.
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« Reply #257 on: August 15, 2016, 02:04:17 pm »
You should know what that looks like, you dish it out with every post.

Yeah! Right!  I guess it looks that way to someone who has swallowed enough of the Trump Kool-Aid!
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« Reply #258 on: August 15, 2016, 02:07:13 pm »
This whole Presidential election seems to thrive on hyperbole.
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« Reply #259 on: August 15, 2016, 02:09:42 pm »
This whole Presidential election seems to thrive on hyperbole.

Yes. The natural outcome of a culture ruled by television.

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« Reply #260 on: August 15, 2016, 02:12:54 pm »
Don-O's comments of the past two days are very admirable. I just want to say that.

I'm a "confrontation avoider" for the most part; say my piece and that's that.

Good post and I agree.....
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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #261 on: August 15, 2016, 02:29:26 pm »
That's not just here, it happens everywhere.
Having a political forum and discussing politics is volatile enough, when you bring morality into the mix it takes it to a whole new explosive level.
There is only one entity that can see what's in a person's heart and that's God.

I didn't say anything before but others said it for me.  The thread is about morality.  People base their morality on their faith.  Its expected.

Personally I am so deeply damaged by the way that Donald Trump has split the Body of Christ.  I have personally experienced people I would call sisters in Christ questioning my morality for not voting Trump.

Just the fact of what Trump has done to the Church makes him a no go for me.  He is a divider.  And I know some of the power house Evangelical Organizations probably have soiled themselves with Trump money.
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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #262 on: August 15, 2016, 02:29:54 pm »
Isn't Mexico the primary source of the illegal immigration problem Trump has made a centerpiece of his campaign?

And....depending upon 'how' Trump intended to force Mexico to pay for 'da wall'....couldn't it possibly result in a war with Mexico (not like it hasn't happened before with other "punished" nations). 

It would be living in fantasy land to ignore past history and to think otherwise.

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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #263 on: August 15, 2016, 02:32:39 pm »
I didn't say anything before but others said it for me.  The thread is about morality.  People base their morality on their faith.  Its expected.

Personally I am so deeply damaged by the way that Donald Trump has split the Body of Christ.  I have personally experienced people I would call sisters in Christ questioning my morality for not voting Trump.

Just the fact of what Trump has done to the Church makes him a no go for me.  He is a divider. 
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And I know some of the power house Evangelical Organizations probably have soiled themselves with Trump money.

Oh, you better believe it.  Cash is king to the Evangelical tele false prophets.  Just like it is with The Don.  And they are pushing Trump hard to their naïve and gullible watchers.
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Oh, you better believe it.  Cash is king to the Evangelical tele false prophets.  Just like it is with The Don.  And they are pushing Trump hard to their naïve and gullible watchers.

Exactly.  Lying Snake Oil salesmen shilling for another Lying Snake Oil salesmen.

Only, as "spiritual leaders" the televangelists bear an even greater responsibility for their sin.  Scripture makes it very clear that those leading gullible people down the wrong path in the Name of Christ will not avoid punishment.
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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #265 on: August 15, 2016, 02:44:42 pm »
Oh and I am just going to say it.  Everyone wonders where Trump is spending his money?  No adds to attack Hillary Clinton.  No normal campaign activity.  My guess is that he is spending his money buying endorsements.  I wonder how much 700 Club pulled in for their devotion? 
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« Reply #266 on: August 15, 2016, 02:51:29 pm »
Exactly.  Lying Snake Oil salesmen shilling for another Lying Snake Oil salesmen.

Only, as "spiritual leaders" the televangelists bear an even greater responsibility for their sin.  Scripture makes it very clear that those leading gullible people down the wrong path in the Name of Christ will not avoid punishment.

Exactly.  They will be judged more harshly for their dirty deeds of leading people astray.
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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #267 on: August 15, 2016, 02:51:36 pm »
This whole Presidential election seems to thrive on hyperbole.

I think you're exaggerating.
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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #268 on: August 15, 2016, 02:53:09 pm »
Oh and I am just going to say it.  Everyone wonders where Trump is spending his money?  No adds to attack Hillary Clinton.  No normal campaign activity.  My guess is that he is spending his money buying endorsements.   I wonder how much 700 Club pulled in for their devotion?

You mean bribing.... his MOD, which he has even admitted to ($100k to The Clinton Foundation).  Lawyers and word-parsers call it quid pro quo and pay for play.

And we already know that he has spent money to hire internet "Trolls For Don".
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« Reply #269 on: August 15, 2016, 02:54:54 pm »
You mean bribing.... his MOD, which he has even admitted to ($100k to The Clinton Foundation).  Lawyers and word-parsers call it quid pro quo and pay for play.

And we already know that he has spent money to hire internet "Trolls For Don".

If the ones here are getting paid, Donnie's not getting his money's worth.  They're really bad at it.  :smokin:
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« Reply #270 on: August 15, 2016, 02:59:58 pm »
If the ones here are getting paid, Donnie's not getting his money's worth.  They're really bad at it.  :smokin:

Agreed.  But then....that goes right back to the point that Donnie is inept at hiring competent workers. 
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« Reply #271 on: August 15, 2016, 03:16:38 pm »
Agreed.  But then....that goes right back to the point that Donnie is inept at hiring competent workers.

True enough.

He can't even get trolls who are bright enough to convince rational people to vote for him........

I guess that's because it's so difficult to find even one characteristic that he has that would encourage us to vote for him.  It's all "if you don't for Trump you're voting for Hillary'' nonsense, and calling us traitors.  Not really an effective GOTV campaign!

Character still matters.  It always matters.

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Re: The Morality of Voting for Trump
« Reply #272 on: August 15, 2016, 06:33:48 pm »
True enough.

He can't even get trolls who are bright enough to convince rational people to vote for him........

I guess that's because it's so difficult to find even one characteristic that he has that would encourage us to vote for him.  It's all "if you don't for Trump you're voting for Hillary'' nonsense, and calling us traitors.  Not really an effective GOTV campaign!

The odd/funny part of it is.....I actually like "some" of the things he has said he would do.  But somehow, the way in which he chooses to say it is objectionable to me.  So even then, I find reason to not like it....and much more reason to not believe it, considering his past flip flops on everything else he has pretended to be for and is supposedly going to do. 

The fact that he's not even running ads is another troubling indication of his unserious intent.  Perhaps he is waiting until after Labor Day to run ads?  Heard Rush say that has traditionally been the date that campaigns unofficially start.  I guess we'll see.
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« Reply #273 on: August 15, 2016, 06:39:20 pm »
Only algor fans still hate him as much as you do......

One thing that has amazed me recently...  I thought the younguns would hate him, but he's actually not as unpopular with youth as I thought he would be.
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