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Offline sinkspur

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http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-child-care-proposal-plan-2016-8

We now know more about Trump's proposal to subsidize child care

Josh Barro
 
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Donald Trump's proposal to make child-care expenses deductible from tax became a little less vague on Thursday — and significantly more expensive.

In a statement pushing against Hillary Clinton's "wild lies" about the proposal, (note: not wild lies, just attempts to interpret Trump's single-sentence proposal about a complicated matter) the Trump campaign provided more detail on how the deduction would work.

The deduction would be "above the line." That means it would appear before Line 37 on the Form 1040, and therefore the deduction would come out of your income before calculating adjusted gross income. Here's why it matters where on the form the deduction goes: You can take "above the line" deductions on top of the standard deduction, without itemizing your other deductions. As a result, more taxpayers could take advantage of this deduction, including taxpayers who don't make enough money to itemize. (Itemizing is generally for people who pay a significant amount of mortgage interest and/or state and local tax.)
The deduction would apply against one-half of payroll tax, not just income tax. Clinton and others have pointed out that a new income-tax deduction would be of no value to low-income parents who don't make enough money to pay income tax. Making the deduction also applicable against the employee-paid half of payroll tax would provide some savings to anybody with labor income. The benefit wouldn't be huge — it would equal 7.65% of the amount deducted — but that's not nothing.
However, there are still two big problems with Trump's proposal.

One is that, like any tax deduction, the value of the deduction is directly linked to the tax rate you pay.  Suppose two families each deduct $4,000, but one family has an income so low they only pay payroll tax, while the other family has a high income and pays at Trump's proposed top rate of 33%.

The low-income family would have a tax savings of $306, while the high-income family would save either $1,320 or $1,626.  I don't know the exact figure for the wealthier family because proposal is ambiguous about whether taxpayers can take the deduction against both income and payroll tax, or must pick one.


"More detail will be rolled out soon after the plans [sic] other elements," according to a statement on Trump's website. Either way, the benefits are disproportionately aimed at higher-income families.

The other problem is that we have no idea how much the proposal would cost, and the clarifications they announced Thursday would make it more expensive.

Trump's campaign has said there will be some sort of income cap on the deduction, but they haven't specified what the cap would be or how it would work. Income caps are tricky to design. A high cap with a long phaseout would make this proposal very expensive and a lot of its benefits would go to rich people; a low cap with a short phaseout would impose a high effective tax rate on working families, as they would lose child-care subsidies with each additional dollar they earn.

If Trump really wanted to make this proposal less tilted toward the wealthy, he would structure it as a tax credit (which reduces your tax bill by the same amount regardless of your tax rate) instead of a deduction, but he seems to have specifically chosen not to do that.

I expect the Trump campaign will continue to dribble out clarifications on this policy proposal. I don't expect they will ever provide a cost estimate, and I'd be surprised if they provide enough detail to allow outside groups to produce a reliable cost estimate.
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I get so sick of "the wealthy will benefit more" screed   No kidding!   That's because the "wealthy" pay all the tax.   You cannot give tax relief to those who don't pay any    I am blessed to make a good income but darn sick and tired of hearing why I don't deserve a tax break.   I pay over 6 figures in tax every year (no deductions allowed at my rate) and I'm getting really fed up :shrug:
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This is dumb all the way around.

Trump is no better than electing any other Democrat.

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It's for the children.   Donald love the little children.   His next wife is one right now..

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He warned us...


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Parents already get a deduction for the kid and they get a child tax credit.  It is unfair to add this deduction.  The state already pays for K-12 education.  This deduction benefits two income homes.  What about one income homes where the mother stays home?  This is not fair.   There is deduction enough for kids.  Why reward working moms over stay-at-home moms?

I'm certainly not defending Trump's plan, but the reason for a childcare deduction is that there are 12 million single parent households in the US.  Of course, most of the single mothers live in poverty, so Trump's deduction won't do them any good because they pay no taxes.  But both parties pander to single parents, especially Democrats, because 8% of single parent homes are headed by women.

https://singlemotherguide.com/single-mother-statistics/
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.