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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #25 on: August 09, 2016, 12:56:08 am »
His 'campaign' may be about the future, but his liberal past, his bombastic comments, his narcissistic personality and lack of knowledge on the issues gives him absolutely no credibility.

Yeah! That and the fact that he tells another lie about every 10 seconds!
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #26 on: August 09, 2016, 01:10:15 am »
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Some of the prominent officials include Michael Hayden, former director of both the CIA and National Security Agency; Michael Chertoff, former Secretary of Homeland Security for Bush and President Obama; John Negroponte, former director of national intelligence under Bush; Tom Ridge, former homeland security director under Bush as well as former governor of the battleground state of Pennsylvania; as well as others who have served as trade representatives, national security advisers and ambassadors.

Donald Trump's vision for America first puts the Bush doctrine of national security at risk.  I can understand why the Bush administration is so deeply upset by this--their legacy has already taken a mortal hit by the economic collapse of 2008--so they're clinging with bloody fingernails to a national security legacy.

But by these actions they are simply becoming an even deeper disappointment.   **nononono*

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #27 on: August 09, 2016, 01:19:40 am »
Obama's not running.

SO, you do not even give a shit that Powell voted obama?

Did you vote obama? Maybe you should be considered in the same category..you think?
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #28 on: August 09, 2016, 01:21:11 am »
Donald Trump's vision for America first puts the Bush doctrine of national security at risk.  I can understand why the Bush administration is so deeply upset by this--their legacy has already taken a mortal hit by the economic collapse of 2008--so they're clinging with bloody fingernails to a national security legacy.

But by these actions they are simply becoming an even deeper disappointment.   **nononono*

Not by disavowing Trump they aren't!  FAR from it!
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #29 on: August 09, 2016, 01:24:27 am »
Donald Trump's vision for America first puts the Bush doctrine of national security at risk.  I can understand why the Bush administration is so deeply upset by this--their legacy has already taken a mortal hit by the economic collapse of 2008--so they're clinging with bloody fingernails to a national security legacy.

But by these actions they are simply becoming an even deeper disappointment.   **nononono*

Trump supported the Iraq War before it began, then turned tail a year later (along with all the other Democrats).  Bush kept us safe for eight years after 9/11, so his national security legacy is pretty safe.

Trump's a casino mogul.  He doesn't know jack about security or the military or really anything that doesn't involve multi-level marketing or stiffing his creditors. 

Your boy is going down, RIV.  Going down hard. His speech today was warmed over 1950s Republicanism, with its navel-gazing nationalism,  its desire to throw trade agreements overboard, and tax cuts that will never be enacted because he doesn't balance them with spending cuts.  Indeed, rather than cutting spending, he wants to increase the debt by $5 trillion with another ridiculous stimulus package that benefits unions and Democrat constituencies.

How long will Trump stay on this choke chain that he's on?  I'm taking bets, it'll be no longer than next weekend.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2016, 01:25:48 am »
SO, you do not even give a shit that Powell voted obama?

Did you vote obama? Maybe you should be considered in the same category..you think?

No. I was merely correcting you after you said "Powell's probably voting for Obama."

I voted for Romney.  I don't really care who Colin Powell voted for.

I'm betting neither he nor Rice will vote for Trump.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2016, 01:28:15 am »
Trump supported the Iraq War before it began, then turned tail a year later (along with all the other Democrats).  Bush kept us safe for eight years after 9/11, so his national security legacy is pretty safe.

Trump's a casino mogul.  He doesn't know jack about security or the military or really anything that doesn't involve multi-level marketing or stiffing his creditors. 

Your boy is going down, RIV.  Going down hard. His speech today was warmed over 1950s Republicanism, with its navel-gazing nationalism,  its desire to throw trade agreements overboard, and tax cuts that will never be enacted because he doesn't balance them with spending cuts.  Indeed, rather than cutting spending, he wants to increase the debt by $5 trillion with another ridiculous stimulus package that benefits unions and Democrat constituencies.

How long will Trump stay on this choke chain that he's on?  I'm taking bets, it'll be no longer than next weekend.

What a pickle.

The way I see it is...we're boned. Grab what you can for you, family and People.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2016, 01:33:00 am »
No. I was merely correcting you after you said "Powell's probably voting for Obama."

I voted for Romney.  I don't really care who Colin Powell voted for.

I'm betting neither he nor Rice will vote for Trump.

Do not lie about what I said please.

I did not say....   you said "Powell's probably voting for Obama."


The cockroach Powell... endorsed obama. very strongly.  Now you can try to "parse" that ... if you want.  But you lose with me doing so.

Be honest...goes a long way with me.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2016, 01:41:57 am »


BTW...@sinkspur...there is no "probably" about it.

From my link....(CBS News) Former Secretary of State Colin Powell broke with the Republican party during the 2008 election, to endorse then-candidate Barack Obama for president, calling Obama a "transformational figure."

With 12 days to go before the presidential election, Powell publicly endorsed President Obama for re-election on "CBS This Morning" Thursday

"I voted for him in 2008 and I plan to stick with him in 2012 and I'll be voting for he and for Vice President Joe Biden next month."


Fair enough?

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2016, 01:44:15 am »
Another GOP Senator has said "no" to Trump.  Susan Collins of Maine.  And part of her reason is the reason expresses the views of many (including me:

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2016, 01:49:35 am »
His 'campaign' may be about the future, but his liberal past, his bombastic comments, his narcissistic personality and lack of knowledge on the issues gives him absolutely no credibility.
Trump already has credibility with millions of American voters. He'll honor his pledge to appoint conservative justices and he'll honor his pledge to jump start the economy. He's miles ahead of the alternative.

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2016, 01:50:37 am »

Well, yeah...trump sucks.... what a pickle.

We do agree on that.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2016, 01:53:05 am »
Trump already has credibility with millions of American voters. He'll honor his pledge to appoint conservative justices and he'll honor his pledge to jump start the economy. He's miles ahead of the alternative.

Well...15 million voters anyways.

A record 18 million voted for someone else this last "republican" primary.

And there is no reason to consider trump has any "honor" to do anything.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2016, 02:04:00 am »
A record 18 million voted for someone else this last "republican" primary.

Too bad those votes were split up across 16 other candidates  though huh?

Woulda, shoulda, coulda.

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2016, 02:07:55 am »
Not by disavowing Trump they aren't!  FAR from it!

Yes, yes they are.

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2016, 02:08:22 am »
Too bad those votes were split up across 16 other candidates  though huh?

Woulda, shoulda, coulda.

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2016, 02:19:48 am »
Good reply by Trump

Yes. Very good reply by Trump.   


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If Trump wins, I won't be here to GLOAT. (I don't want to hang around while everyone looks at every speck in his eye.)

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #42 on: August 09, 2016, 03:56:16 am »
Well...15 million voters anyways.

A record 18 million voted for someone else this last "republican" primary.

And there is no reason to consider trump has any "honor" to do anything.

Exactly.  Trump has absolutely zero credibility.  He has no honor or integrity.  He is a liberal fraud with notable mental issues.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #43 on: August 09, 2016, 04:05:45 am »
The signers of this thing are mostly a bunch of has beens and nobodies. Some of them are human debris. Chertoff should be in jail for his insider dealing to jam the govt' with those stupid airport scanners after he was out of his job.

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #44 on: August 09, 2016, 07:54:01 am »
Good reply by Trump
It is, until you realize these people go back as far as the Nixon Administration which had zip, zero, nada to do with ISIS, Iraq, or Benghazi.

Then, the whole thingy kinda doesn't hold water.

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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #45 on: August 09, 2016, 08:00:35 am »
Exactly.  If you want a strongman bully narcissist leader who will likely start WW3 as your future, then Trump is about the future alright.   Hope they are ready to sacrifice the youth of this generation to whatever petty slight Trump first feels he needs to avenge.  You know his rules, hit back many times harder than you were hit -- and with anything at your disposal.  God help us if he gets the power of the Presidency at his disposal.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #46 on: August 09, 2016, 08:35:17 am »
He'll honor his pledge to appoint conservative justices and he'll honor his pledge to jump start the economy.

What pledges?

And another porkulus and a 45% increase in consumer costs aren't going to "jump-start the economy"!
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #47 on: August 09, 2016, 03:33:50 pm »
Trump already has credibility with millions of American voters. He'll honor his pledge to appoint conservative justices and he'll honor his pledge to jump start the economy. He's miles ahead of the alternative.

This seems like a good time to quote the old bumper sticker that says "God must love stupid people, he sure created a lot of them." Honey Boo-Boo or Chumlee, would have 'credibility' with millions of American for the same reason Trump does.

Second if you think that raising taxes, raising tariffs (a tax), and raising the minimum wage will jump start the economy you need to stop listening to Paul Krugman. You do not jump start things by blowing the starter motor apart with a 12 gauge shotgun.
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #48 on: August 09, 2016, 03:35:56 pm »
What pledges?

And another porkulus and a 45% increase in consumer costs aren't going to "jump-start the economy"!
What!? You mean I can't spend and borrow my way to wealth? Who da thunk?
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Re: 50 GOP officials: Trump puts national security ‘at risk’
« Reply #49 on: August 09, 2016, 04:04:15 pm »
Good reply by Trump
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No, it is not a good reply.  A "good" reply, a "great" reply, would be for him to quit.  You know I think he is mentally "off", and a danger to the country - can you say, "World War Three?"  If you are dead, it doesn't matter who is on the Supreme Court.