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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #50 on: August 07, 2016, 04:38:29 pm »
One of the greatest coincidences in this heap of coincidences is the PNAC document entitled Rebuilding America's Defenses. From the document:
"Further, the process of change, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catylizing event --- like a new Pearl Harbor"
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #51 on: August 07, 2016, 04:42:41 pm »
OK, I read the responses to this thread and found them to be good replies warranting a look into Darrell Castle a little further.  I think using the word lineage to describe Merkels relationship to Hitler was a mistake.  It appears that you are right and it wasn't about blood relationship.  As I said in the leading post I was ready to think that I would vote for Castle but am apprehensive of conspiracy.  People should use words carefully.  That was a mistake on Castle part.

As for whether we created ISIS.  I do believe that with Obama/Clinton response in both Libya and Iraq we created an atmosphere for ISIS to take over.   Did we create ISIS I think ISIS was started by Saddam Hussein and can be proven so.

9/11  I am not a conspiracy theorist.  Everyone saw what happened.  Heard the calls from the passengers.

nuff said.

I will give Castle a second look but I would listen to some of the podcasts myself.  I am going to post this response from Castle concerning the allegations against him from Red State in the opening thread.  I accept his response and will give him another look. 

https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/08/04/darrell-castle-responds-to-attacks-from-never-trump-activist/

Definitely listen to the podcasts.  We have another three months in which to do so. 

Also, that link doesn't work (on my computer) with the "/" at the end.  Remove it and it will work.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #52 on: August 07, 2016, 04:45:35 pm »
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #53 on: August 07, 2016, 04:48:16 pm »
Definitely listen to the podcasts.  We have another three months in which to do so. 

Also, that link doesn't work (on my computer) with the "/" at the end.  Remove it and it will work.

OK thanks.  It works for me but I will post it the other way also in the leading post. 

Yes I will listen.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #54 on: August 07, 2016, 04:57:19 pm »
The only wasted vote for President is one not cast.
The use of that word is interesting, since it also describes the waste removal process of worms.

As an aside, all of those calling Ron Paul a loon sound a lot like George Stephanopoulos. Or the crowd at Rehabilitation when Not Sure attempted to reason with them.

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #55 on: August 07, 2016, 05:07:01 pm »
OK, I read the responses to this thread and found them to be good replies warranting a look into Darrell Castle a little further. 

Brava! And BTW, *Respect*! Please don't think I was accusing you when I said this looks like a hack-job. You're one of my favorite people, and I always pay attention to your posts. My concern is toward truth in reporting, and I am certain that yours is to.

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I think using the word lineage to describe Merkels relationship to Hitler was a mistake.  It appears that you are right and it wasn't about blood relationship.  As I said in the leading post I was ready to think that I would vote for Castle but am apprehensive of conspiracy.  People should use words carefully.  That was a mistake on Castle part.

Alright  -I can buy that... But I would submit that often one cannot predict how one's words might be taken after-the-fact, and this sampling speaks to that fairly well.
 
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As for whether we created ISIS.  I do believe that with Obama/Clinton response in both Libya and Iraq we created an atmosphere for ISIS to take over.   Did we create ISIS I think ISIS was started by Saddam Hussein and can be proven so.

Again, I can agree - I think the statement would be better placed in the sense that we created the conditions that allowed ISIS to grow exponentially.  And I think that is what most people mean to say.

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9/11  I am not a conspiracy theorist.  Everyone saw what happened.  Heard the calls from the passengers.

nuff said.

With the aforementioned after-the-fact stipulation I had offered previously, we are largely in agreement.

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I will give Castle a second look but I would listen to some of the podcasts myself.  I am going to post this response from Castle concerning the allegations against him from Red State in the opening thread.  I accept his response and will give him another look. 

https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/08/04/darrell-castle-responds-to-attacks-from-never-trump-activist/

Thanks for the link. I think it best to let Castle address the issue(s) in his own words. I also think it is worth mentioning that the flak Castle is suddenly receiving means something - He must be getting some traction.

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #56 on: August 08, 2016, 01:20:09 am »
Brava! And BTW, *Respect*! Please don't think I was accusing you when I said this looks like a hack-job. You're one of my favorite people, and I always pay attention to your posts. My concern is toward truth in reporting, and I am certain that yours is to.

Alright  -I can buy that... But I would submit that often one cannot predict how one's words might be taken after-the-fact, and this sampling speaks to that fairly well.
 
Again, I can agree - I think the statement would be better placed in the sense that we created the conditions that allowed ISIS to grow exponentially.  And I think that is what most people mean to say.

With the aforementioned after-the-fact stipulation I had offered previously, we are largely in agreement.

Thanks for the link. I think it best to let Castle address the issue(s) in his own words. I also think it is worth mentioning that the flak Castle is suddenly receiving means something - He must be getting some traction.

Thank you roamer_1

I do hope that Castle could be a candidate I can vote for.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #57 on: August 08, 2016, 01:55:25 am »
No, it's not.  The Constitution Party has always been full of loonies (i.e., Alan Keyes once ran for president under that banner) and this time is no different.   Why throw in with that?

Sink, don't judge everyone in the party by a few. Several years back James Clymer was Chairman and VP of the Constitution Party he is a descendant of George Clymer who signed both the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution...also Sink ... my husband is related as well.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #58 on: August 08, 2016, 03:04:23 am »


Pretty clear choice with Darrel Castle.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #59 on: August 08, 2016, 08:33:45 am »
The guy is an asshat. We got liberals running the Libertarians. A Rat running the GOP. A criminal running the DNC. Art Bell running the Constitutionalists, and a batshitcrazy running the Greens. The country will be in great hands no matter what.
I must note in the https://amthirdpartyreport.com/2016/08/04/darrell-castle-responds-to-attacks-from-never-trump-activist/article, Castle states

 
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Am I a Birther? To finally set the record straight, I think Ted Cruz is the best example of a true gentleman and statesman left in the Republican Party and I believe he is highly qualified for the office of President. As I have said before, if I were a Republican, which I am not, I would have voted for him in the primary.

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He claims I said Angela Merkel is Hitler’s daughter. What I said was she was from his lineage. The fact is, I was describing Ms. Merkel as being in the lineage of Hitler as a national leader. She is so ashamed of what happened in Germany during WWII that she goes overboard trying to show she is not like him. Angela Merkel is definitely not Hitler’s daughter.

I will listen to the podcast before I make up my mind on the "Truther issue". There are many levels and variations of that, and what he says about it is germane. I would prefer to hear the facts before I make a statement on that.

{Heck, I have questions about the way building 7 went down (sure looked like a controlled demolition to me). }
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #60 on: August 08, 2016, 08:51:10 am »
I'm not voting for the top of the ticket.  I don't vote for liars, demagogues, or crazies. 


Well, enjoy your day off, because if you aren't voting for liars, demagogues, or crazies, you might be out of options.

Oh, did you by ANY chance read what the man actually had to say? The writer of the hit piece on Castle is a hardcore Johnson supporter.  It's like reading a "Conservative Treehouse" piece on Cruz.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #62 on: August 08, 2016, 11:59:38 am »
{Heck, I have questions about the way building 7 went down (sure looked like a controlled demolition to me).

Nah... I've been on demolition. The weeks it would take to weaken the structure, the hundreds of miles of control cable... Shoot, It would probably take a week just to set the charges. Ain't no way that building was set up for demo with normal business being conducted within. Not a single chance.

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« Reply #63 on: August 08, 2016, 06:05:57 pm »
Nah... I've been on demolition. The weeks it would take to weaken the structure, the hundreds of miles of control cable... Shoot, It would probably take a week just to set the charges. Ain't no way that building was set up for demo with normal business being conducted within. Not a single chance.
Well, the internal collapse makes sense. I had noted on the video I linked the collapse of the penthouse structures which bespoke the failure of structural elements in the interior of the building. What isn't so often shown is the flue effect from crosswinds on the fire floors. When the flames are blowing out the windows and are white in color, there is some serious heat involved. I've tinkered with blacksmithing at a friend's forge and was a firefighter/EMS long ago, so I can see the building coming down as described.

However, absent some critical data---most videos just show the collapse without discussion of time elapsed, no sprinklers, crosswind flue/blast furnace effect, and interior structural failure prior to collapse, the impression is one of an implosion.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #64 on: August 08, 2016, 06:22:44 pm »
http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/design/a3524/4278874/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkjpZ1RwV10


9/11: WTC 7 Conspiracy Theory Explained


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mBwlOW5VD0
Thanks. No argument there, really. Looks can be deceiving.

I noticed, for instance, the collapse of the roof (penthouse) structures into the interior of the building is missing from the clip I linked.

When I saw that on a different video, I realized that the roof (and supporting elements inside the building shell) had failed. There is a lot missing from the Building 7 information generally presented, and that sort of cherry picking data is the kind of crap that brings us "Global Warming". It's scientifically dishonest, and that ticks me off.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #65 on: August 08, 2016, 06:31:16 pm »
So folks around here are trashing the Constitution Party now?  Seriously?

 :facepalm2:

It's no wonder Conservatives keep getting rolled in American politics...



And then there was this bit of pettiness...

Gary Johnson tossed rival Austin Petersen’s gift of George Washington’s replica pistol in trash

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jun/2/gary-johnson-tossed-rival-austin-petersons-gift-of/
Now that was unreal to me. First, throwing away a gift of that nature conspicuously is an outright insult. Second I can't see throwing away any gun, but that's just me, having committed no felonies. Third, leaving a usable weapon in the trash is just irresponsible. Who knows who will pull it out?

I'm glad someone grabbed it and returned it to Petersen.

The Libertarians are too Liberal and a bit too libertine for me to be able to support them.
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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #66 on: August 08, 2016, 07:03:06 pm »
Well, the internal collapse makes sense. I had noted on the video I linked the collapse of the penthouse structures which bespoke the failure of structural elements in the interior of the building. What isn't so often shown is the flue effect from crosswinds on the fire floors. When the flames are blowing out the windows and are white in color, there is some serious heat involved. I've tinkered with blacksmithing at a friend's forge and was a firefighter/EMS long ago, so I can see the building coming down as described.

However, absent some critical data---most videos just show the collapse without discussion of time elapsed, no sprinklers, crosswind flue/blast furnace effect, and interior structural failure prior to collapse, the impression is one of an implosion.

 :shrug: Yeah... prolly right... Makes sense. I ain't an engineer, so my opinion on what happened is limited to a fair sense of how things work... But I can tell you with more than normal authority what DIDN'T happen - And that would be that the building did not come down due to conventional demolition. The logistics involved prior to the shoot just plain prevent the idea absolutely. 

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #67 on: August 08, 2016, 07:13:10 pm »
:shrug: Yeah... prolly right... Makes sense. I ain't an engineer, so my opinion on what happened is limited to a fair sense of how things work... But I can tell you with more than normal authority what DIDN'T happen - And that would be that the building did not come down due to conventional demolition. The logistics involved prior to the shoot just plain prevent the idea absolutely.

I'm not an engineer by trade, but I took a shitload of that stuff in school.  And I know enough to know that anyone who simply watched a video and thought that was evidence of controlled demo was nuts.  Unless you sit down with full diagrams, do all the force vectors, materials analysis, etc., you're just a lay chucklehead fooling other people into thinking you know something.

Here's the reality.   Proving that the WTC's came down from a controlled demo versus the explanations provided would have been the greatest engineering story of the century.  Probably last century as well.  And it would have been published in reputable, peer-reviewed journals in which engineers all over the world would have argued it.  There is no way to keep that fact hidden.

But that didn't happen.  The only people pushing those conspiracy theories were the know-nothings who think they know something.

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #68 on: August 08, 2016, 07:34:08 pm »

But that didn't happen.  The only people pushing those conspiracy theories were the know-nothings who think they know something.

Yep. Same with the towers... There's a fair vid showing the outer walls on one of them bowing out between two of the damaged floors... That means that the floor/ceiling joists are stretched or disconnected... Once the beam is not holding the post square, it's gonna come down - end of story... And once you get what, 30 stories moving, it ain't gonna stop.

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #69 on: August 08, 2016, 07:40:10 pm »
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Ron Paul thought we ought to use Letters of Marque and Reprisal against Osama bin Laden because that's the "only remedy available in the Constitution."  I guess Thomas Jefferson would be surprised at that, since he used force against the Barbary Pirates.

Anyway, Paul was a nice eccentric old guy who had the same following as did "The Rocky Horror Picture Show."
Odd thing about Jefferson's use of force against the Barbary Pirates. With communications what they were, the commander of the US Naval detachment used his own judgement in that attack--and it was a Naval detachment. Not privateers, nor a letter of Marque or Reprisal. For the most part, Jefferson's navy was the equivalent of the littoral combat ship, coastal gunboats to defend harbors.

Ron Paul was right in one sense. We could have used contractors operating under authorization as provided for in the Constitution to find and eliminate Osama. It is generally accepted that the private sector can run rings around the government in other areas, and there are a lot of well qualified (tier 1) personnel out there who are no longer on active duty who would have been capable, even if their infiltration/exfiltration methods were not as high tech.

Now, that Red State Piece is a hit piece, listen instead to an outline of the origin of the petrodollar, the current US/Saudi relationship economically, and the call for the release of the 28 redacted pages of the 9/11 commission report http://www.castlereport.us/twenty-eight-pages/

This isn't the sort of missile/bomb/intentional demolition "trooferism", but a call to account for why the unreleased pages were unreleased and their contents. We know: The hijackers were Saudis, not Iraquis, not Afghanis, not even Iranians, but Saudis. We know there are economic arrangements which ensure the dollar is the reserve currency, AKA the "petrodollar", THE means of purchasing oil in the world. All other currencies must be converted to US Dollars before buying oil, and that reserve currency status is what keeps the dollar afloat. There is no gold nor other standard which does so. It also allows for the existence of vast quantities of dollars in the global economy that could simply not be backed by gold or silver without serious devaluation of those dollars relative to today's market value.

Did the Saudis get a pass for an act of war (sanctioned or otherwise)? We continue to provide for their military security despite Osama Bin Laden being related to the royal family.

Listen to the podcast, please.

Before you accept the writings of Harrington or others who have gone into attack mode on the Constitution Party, consider if those doing the attacking are Libertarians, they are, from a political standpoint trying to hang on to the number three position and grow their party with Republican malcontents who feel they have no other place to go.

A preemptive strike against Castle or the Constitution Party will help them maintain their relevance albeit small in the current overall picture, still nearly large enough to get into national debates.

IF voters who have been disgusted at the liberal morphing of the GOP find that there is a Party which actually supports original intent and the Constitution, they are more likely to head in that direction rather in the direction of open borders, working illegals and pot for everyone. While the latter may well snag some disaffected Bernie supporters, it is not identical to the Constitution Party stance of letting the several states decide, nor, for that matter of returning power to the States.

I have little doubt that there are those in the GOPe who would just as soon have any attempt by voters to find a philosophical home in a third party be a dissatisfying event. After all, the philosophy with the GOPe has seemed to be thumbing their noses at Conservatives because conservatives have 'no place else to go'.

Well, just maybe we do. We might not like the paint scheme, the landscaping, or other minor details, but there is no faulting the structure, a platform based on original intent.

YMMV, but please take the time to consider there are those who have much to gain if the Constitution Party is marginalized early on. Kindly look at more than just one writer. Even those we have or may have seen as trusted sources in the past have had the curtain pulled aside this year. Many have gone completely off the rails, and former icons of conservative media have fallen and will fall from those positions of esteem of their own volition through misleading and outright prevaricate accounts of the positions and actions of candidates other than those they support.

We need to examine every article like the MSM wrote it, even from sources we may have considered Conservative in the past. Some writers will prove to be honest and forthright, others will fail those standards.

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #70 on: August 08, 2016, 07:48:11 pm »
I'm not an engineer by trade, but I took a shitload of that stuff in school.  And I know enough to know that anyone who simply watched a video and thought that was evidence of controlled demo was nuts.  Unless you sit down with full diagrams, do all the force vectors, materials analysis, etc., you're just a lay chucklehead fooling other people into thinking you know something.

Here's the reality.   Proving that the WTC's came down from a controlled demo versus the explanations provided would have been the greatest engineering story of the century.  Probably last century as well.  And it would have been published in reputable, peer-reviewed journals in which engineers all over the world would have argued it.  There is no way to keep that fact hidden.

But that didn't happen.  The only people pushing those conspiracy theories were the know-nothings who think they know something.
As I said, it LOOKED LIKE controlled demolition. There IS a reason for that. The same structural elements failed as a result of the fire which would have been intentionally reduced during a controlled demolition. The building fell in its own footprint: which, in terms of engineering and physics, requires specific failures in the structure to produce an implosion of the structure.

What is and has been ignored in the material most widely circulated is the indications of severe fires on the lower floors, the duration of those fires, and the blast furnace effect of crosswinds. Even the penthouse structure collapsing into the interior of the building was absent from that clip, which may be an indication that those who produced it were out to eliminate evidence which would contradict their particular theory.

Still, go back and look at the short clip of the WTC 7 collapse. It LOOKS LIKE a controlled demolition. Why? Same structural failures, same sort of collapse, just a different cause.

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #71 on: August 08, 2016, 07:51:34 pm »
I'm not voting for the top of the ticket.  I don't vote for liars, demagogues, or crazies. 

The Constitution Party, like the Libertarians, attract the fringes of the voting public.  Talk about a wasted vote!!!

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Re: Darrell Castle refuses to deny he’s a 9/11 Truther
« Reply #72 on: August 08, 2016, 08:41:56 pm »
The fringe of a garment is what sets it off and makes it beautiful.

Immortal Technique - Bin Laden
(Verse 1)

I pledge no allegiance, ni$&@ f$&@ the presidents speeches
I'm baptized by America and covered in leeches
The dirty water that bleaches your soul and your facial features
Drownin' you in propaganda that they spit through the speakers
And if you speak about the evil that the government does
The Patriot Act will track you to the type of your blood
They try to frame you, and say you was tryna sell drugs
And throw a federal indictment on ni$&@$ to show you love
This sh$& is run by fake Christians, fake politicians
Look at they mansions then look at the conditions you live in
All they talk about is terrorism on television
They tell you to listen but they don't really tell you they mission
They funded Al-Queada and now they blame the Muslim religion
Even though Bin Laden was a CIA tactician
They gave him billions of dollars and they funded his purpose
Farenheight 9/11, that's just scratchin' the surface

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Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.