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Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« on: July 30, 2016, 09:34:51 pm »
http://money.cnn.com/2016/07/30/media/donald-trump-presidential-debates-schedule/index.html

Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
 
by Brian Stelter   @brianstelter

July 30, 2016: 3:20 PM ET   

Donald Trump says the fall debate schedule is "unacceptable," raising the specter that he may try to skip them.

In a tweet on Friday night, Trump incorrectly said that Hillary Clinton and the Democrats are "trying to rig the debates."

In fact, the fall debate schedule was determined almost a year ago by the nonpartisan Commission on Presidential Debates, a private group made up of both Republicans and Democrats.

RNC chief strategist Sean Spicer invoked criticism of the commission on CNN Saturday morning, saying "The entire system needs to be relooked at."

The commission responded to Trump on Saturday by saying that it "announced the number, dates and sites for the 2016 general election debates in September 2015."

"The CPD did not consult with any political parties or campaigns in making these decisions," the group said.

Because Trump skipped one of the GOP primary debates in January, there has been speculation among media types that he may quibble with the schedule or even threaten to not show up.

Campaigns routinely haggle over the details of the debates, right down to the temperature of the studio, but every major party candidate in modern times has ultimately agreed to participate.

It would be risky for Trump to turn down the debates. Voters consistently tell pollsters that the sessions help them decide which candidate to support.

Trump's primary complaint in his tweet was that two of the debates are scheduled on the same nights as NFL games.

That's true -- but it was also true in 2012, and the debates were still high-rated. Sporting events, religious holidays, and other factors cause scheduling headaches every four years.

The commission did not respond to questions about how and why the 2016 dates were selected.

The first debate of the fall, slated for September 26, coincides with "Monday Night Football" on ESPN.

The vice presidential debate is scheduled one week later on October 4, a Tuesday.

The second presidential debate, on October 9, coincides with "Sunday Night Football" on NBC.

The final debate is slated for October 19, a Wednesday.

NFL games are played on Sundays, Mondays and Thursdays in the fall. Fridays and Saturdays are effectively ruled out because TV viewing is lower on weekend evenings. That only leaves Tuesdays and Wednesdays.

One complication was Yom Kippur on Tuesday, October 11 and Wednesday, October 12.

Trump's tweet also brought up Bernie Sanders, saying "same as last time w/ Bernie," a veiled reference to the Democratic primary debate calendar. Many critics believed that the Democratic National Committee sought to minimize the debate schedule, thereby favoring Clinton over Sanders.


The Commission on Presidential Debates has many critics too, but it was specifically formed to provide a nonpartisan structure for debates that doesn't favor one candidate over another.

The parties are not involved in the debate scheduling, a point that Spicer made on CNN: The commission "announces the dates without consultation of the parties or the candidates."

He acknowledged that the dates were set last September, before the primaries even began, but said that "doesn't mean it's a good system."

"You look at the debates being on major NFL nights and you wonder why people are upset about that? This was a dumb idea and should be revisited," Spicer said, throwing the RNC's support behind Trump's complaint.

When Trump tweeted on Friday night, New York Times political correspondent and CNN analyst Maggie Haberman responded, "Is this a prelude to not doing all three?"

Another interpretation is that Trump wants to make sure he has the biggest possible audience for the debates.

Before Trump weighed in, former Obama speechwriter Jon Favreau asserted on Friday's "Keepin' It 1600" podcast that Clinton should call for more debate sessions.

If Trump "says no, then he looks weak, which is against brand," Favreau theorized.

His podcast co-host Dan Pfeiffer, a former Obama aide and CNN commentator, brought up the ongoing guessing game about whether Trump will participate.

"The rumor is that Trump may not agree to the debates. He is not engaged" in the normal negotiations between the campaigns and the commission, Pfeiffer said.

"I heard the same thing actually," Favreau said.
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2016, 09:35:44 pm »
Knowing he'll get his ass kicked, Trump is already laying down excuses for skipping the debates.
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2016, 09:36:31 pm »
Trump cannot debate, especially one on one, we already learned that. He won't be able to get away with his crap in a debate.

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2016, 09:48:45 pm »
If they do debate, I wouldn't be one bit surprised if he calls her cankles.

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2016, 09:52:36 pm »
Trump knows he is such a loser that his fans would rather watch football than him.

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2016, 10:14:44 pm »
Trump knows he is such a loser that his fans would rather watch football than him.

Trump would rather watch football than debate...
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2016, 10:15:34 pm »
So what is so unfair about having debates at the same time as football?

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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2016, 10:18:43 pm »
Trump would rather watch football than debate...

I didn't realize the NFL was that big in Russia.

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2016, 10:21:34 pm »
So what is so unfair about having debates at the same time as football?

It was entertainment during the primaries.  I would pop popcorn.  I think that was what many people watched for.  To see how ridiculous Trump could be.
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2016, 10:22:43 pm »
I didn't realize the NFL was that big in Russia.

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #10 on: July 30, 2016, 11:20:14 pm »
Brian Stelter ‏@brianstelter  2h2 hours ago
Brian Stelter Retweeted Alex Weprin
Trump: "I got a letter from the NFL saying, 'This is ridiculous. Why are the debates against'" prime time games..

 
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Top @NFL spokesman tells me: "While we'd obviously wish the debate commission could find another night, we did not send a letter to Trump."
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2016, 12:20:16 am »
Brian Stelter ‏@brianstelter  2h2 hours ago
Brian Stelter Retweeted Alex Weprin
Trump: "I got a letter from the NFL saying, 'This is ridiculous. Why are the debates against'" prime time games..

 
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Top @NFL spokesman tells me: "While we'd obviously wish the debate commission could find another night, we did not send a letter to Trump."

The NFL Calls Trump Out on ANOTHER Lie

When asked about the debate schedule, Trump replied with "I'll tell you what I don't like. It's against two NFL games. I got a letter from the NFL saying, 'This is ridiculous.'" As a matter of fact, the debate schedule does clash with a couple of NFL games, and that can certainly upset someone whose entire campaign has been built around the idea of getting as much media attention as possible.

However, there's a problem with Trump's claim - the NFL denies it sent a letter. "While we'd obviously wish the debate commission could find another night," a spokesperson from the NFL said, "we did not send a letter to Trump."
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2016, 12:25:15 am »
Brian Stelter ‏@brianstelter  2h2 hours ago
Brian Stelter Retweeted Alex Weprin
Trump: "I got a letter from the NFL saying, 'This is ridiculous. Why are the debates against'" prime time games..


He could have just said this was not even liked by the NFL, but he had to lie. He can't help himself.

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #13 on: July 31, 2016, 12:31:53 am »
I can't think of a debate between two people on the entire planet that I would miss a Seahawk game for. But a debate between Trump and Hillary I may have to include The Incredible Dr. Pol  as well, because watching him shoulder deep up a cows rectum would remind me what I'm missing on the channels showing the debate. 
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #14 on: July 31, 2016, 01:02:22 am »
Falcons v Saints on MNF that night....

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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #15 on: July 31, 2016, 01:22:34 am »
He could have just said this was not even liked by the NFL, but he had to lie. He can't help himself.

Again, why lie about something that can be easily verified?

I am beginning to wonder if Donny has ever made an honest buck in his life.
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #16 on: July 31, 2016, 01:46:12 am »
Again, why lie about something that can be easily verified?

I am beginning to wonder if Donny has ever made an honest buck in his life.

I stopped wondering a long time ago.

It became pretty obvious that his business, such as it was/is, is just serving as an interface between political gatekeepers and obstacles, and legitimate developers who do not want to get caught up in bribery stings. 

I guess it takes some creativity to take the job of bagman, and build a company around it - an organization with an office, a bank account that the bribe money can be shunted through, contacts, business cards - and a story, in case you stumble into a sting.  Very good; but that's neither real business nor training for the Chief Executive of the United States.

We might as well elect the owner of one of these Web porn sites that make their own videos.  Their business is about as hard; and about as moral, too.

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« Reply #17 on: July 31, 2016, 01:53:30 am »
Just a guess, but he thinks all media is good media.  So he lies and then he lies again by spinning it into a more reasonable sounding position and what has happened?  He's received a boatload of free media.

Good guess, but during the primaries the media didn't view his statements critically and acted like disinterested third parties.

That is changing now and every word he spews is being dissected like a biology fetal pig. Not to his benefit.
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #18 on: July 31, 2016, 01:59:39 am »
I place my bet that Trump won't debate Hillary.
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Re: Donald Trump and RNC attack presidential debate schedule
« Reply #19 on: July 31, 2016, 02:10:04 am »
I place my bet that Trump won't debate Hillary.


I'll take some of that bet.  And it will cost him the election.
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« Reply #20 on: July 31, 2016, 02:26:54 am »

I'll take some of that bet.  And it will cost him the election.

If he is too far ahead in the polls and needs to take 2nd, he can debate her