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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2016, 10:56:33 pm »
IMO, Trump has turned the GOP into a modern version of the "Know Nothing Party."

I think that is the most apt comparison.
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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2016, 11:08:35 pm »
And Now Newticle is making proclamations his ass can't back up.'

Newt Gingrich says Ted Cruz won't be welcome at future Republican Party events after attempt to undermine Donald Trump at Cleveland convention

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/23/newt-gingrich-says-ted-cruz-wont-be-welcome-at-future-republican/

Does gingrich even hold an official position in the party?

If Gingrich wants to talk about undermining conservatives/republicans maybe he can explain how helpful it was to pimp global warming alarmism with Nancy pelosi. THanks Newt, Americans have always wanted to pay more for less.


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More recently he's been running around with Tulsi Gabbard and Van Jones whining about how our racist laws are putting too many blacks in prison.



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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2016, 11:17:52 pm »
 
Didn't remain steady with me!

Went up about 15 notches!


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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #28 on: July 26, 2016, 11:24:13 pm »
After the last two posts I feel quite comfortable #NeverTrump will be easily recognized by most sane people as the weirdos they are.

And that post enlightens me that weirdos, view #Nevertrump insanely.
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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #29 on: July 26, 2016, 11:32:17 pm »
The upshot is pretty clear:

Among those not blinded by partisanship, Cruz's reputation has skyrocketed.

Among those stuck in the party-first rut, Cruz has indicted their souls.

People have forgotten that a year ago everyone hated the GOPe for continually rolling over for Obama and shivving their base every chance they got.

It could not be more clear that Cruz is standing alone in opposition to the GOPe. Trump and the GOPe are one and the same now.

If they do not deliver and deliver BIG Cruz will be the only guy on the scene with any credibility at all. His stock will skyrocket.

And if one thing is certain the GOPe wit Trump or without will deliver squat. They have no intention of changing their path.

Cruz will come out of this just fine.

The hyenas currently snapping at his heels, probably not so well.

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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #30 on: July 26, 2016, 11:34:24 pm »
And Now Newticle is making proclamations his ass can't back up.'

Newt Gingrich says Ted Cruz won't be welcome at future Republican Party events after attempt to undermine Donald Trump at Cleveland convention


Still wondering who exactly gives a hoot what Newt has to say about anything.
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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #31 on: July 26, 2016, 11:36:18 pm »
People have forgotten that a year ago everyone hated the GOPe for continually rolling over for Obama and shivving their base every chance they got.

It could not be more clear that Cruz is standing alone in opposition to the GOPe. Trump and the GOPe are one and the same now.

If they do not deliver and deliver BIG Cruz will be the only guy on the scene with any credibility at all. His stock will skyrocket.

And if one thing is certain the GOPe wit Trump or without will deliver squat. They have no intention of changing their path.

Cruz will come out of this just fine.

The hyenas currently snapping at his heels, probably not so well.

The hyenas look like real idiots right now. They're attacking Cruz for hurting the party while he is actively working to help grow it by endorsing conservatives while Trump and friends rabidly threaten to destroy him.

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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #32 on: July 26, 2016, 11:37:19 pm »
Still wondering who exactly gives a hoot what Newt has to say about anything.

It does show what Newt thinks is important, getting invited to all the right establishment parties.

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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #33 on: July 26, 2016, 11:41:37 pm »
The hyenas look like real idiots right now. They're attacking Cruz for hurting the party while he is actively working to help grow it by endorsing conservatives while Trump and friends rabidly threaten to destroy him.

Worse than that, some in his inner circle are actively fundraising for democrats.

I don't know what its gonna take to open the suckers' eyes.

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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #34 on: July 26, 2016, 11:42:56 pm »
It does show what Newt thinks is important, getting invited to all the right establishment parties.

Excellent point!  :beer:
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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2016, 11:44:40 pm »
The entire brouhaha over Ted Cruz's speech need not have happened.

Why are so many Republicans outraged by the exhortation to vote according to conscience? Aren't they confident in the case for Trump? Aren't they assured that he fits the description of a candidate "who you trust to defend our freedom and to be faithful to the Constitution"? Shouldn't this be a moment of affirmation? Shouldn't Republicans be able to honestly declare their conscientious support for their party's nominee? Really, what's the problem here?

NOTHING he said was wrong and EVERYTHING he said was right.

I've said this before and I'll say it again --- The response to Cruz's exhortation demonstrates  what may be the worst problem facing the Trump campaign.

His own voters don't believe in him. So many Republicans backing Trump today are doing so for no other reason than his status as the nominee. That's it. It's a completely pragmatic choice based on the alternative of Hillary Clinton, and it's a choice that goes against their own privately held beliefs.
Newt, the wiley old politician he is, saw that and tried to set the tone for how to handle what Cruz said. Trump, however, has an ego like the Hindenburg. Large, inflated, and highly combustible.
Trump felt that lines: "And, to those listening, please don't stay home in November....vote your conscience, vote for candidates up and down the ticket who you trust to defend our freedom, and to be faithful to the constitution." Was a dig. Trump also stated that Cruz added to his speech from the transcript he was given and that what he added. The conscience line was in the transcipt and Trump knew to be prepared for that. The line that was added was this: "God bless each and every one of you, and God bless the United States of America." I think Trump took that as a dig against his religion. Which raises the question why didn't Trump let it go why is he so insecure?

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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #36 on: July 26, 2016, 11:53:16 pm »
Trump also stated that Cruz added to his speech from the transcript he was given and that what he added. The conscience line was in the transcipt and Trump knew to be prepared for that. The line that was added was this: "God bless each and every one of you, and God bless the United States of America." I think Trump took that as a dig against his religion. Which raises the question why didn't Trump let it go why is he so insecure?

I think this is the line that he added:
And, like each of you, I want to see the principles that our party believes prevail in November.

Perhaps Trump doesn't want to see the principles prevail.

http://politistick.com/heres-line-cruz-added-speech-made-trump-blow-gasket/?utm_content=bufferdd950&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #37 on: July 27, 2016, 12:06:04 am »
After the last two posts I feel quite comfortable #NeverTrump will be easily recognized by most sane people as the weirdos they are.


Category error.  You're clearly mistaking your Trumpist cohort for most sane people.  Not even close.
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Re: Cruz Post-Convention: Popularity Among Americans Holds Steady
« Reply #38 on: July 27, 2016, 12:11:32 am »
Proudly supported Ted Cruz.  Proud to be considered weird by the trumpanzees.