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#Bailout2016 — the election bailout plan that could save us from both Trump and Hillaryhttps://medium.com/autonomous/bailout2016-the-election-bailout-plan-that-could-save-us-from-both-trump-and-hillary-63c9d42f5cf2#.vb74g4gti
By STU BURGUIERE
Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee. I can’t vote for either of them.

Now what?

There is still a narrow path to a better option. It is time sensitive and difficult. But, it’s also doable.

We run an independent/third party conservative candidate —but in a different way than anyone is expecting. We need a massive election bailout, and this 0ur last chance. We need the Delorean to hit the wire while going exactly 88 miles per hour, just as lightning strikes the clock tower. But, as Doc and Marty proved…we can do it.

Here’s how. (see link for more)



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#Bailout2016 — the election bailout plan that could save us from both Trump and Hillaryhttps://medium.com/autonomous/bailout2016-the-election-bailout-plan-that-could-save-us-from-both-trump-and-hillary-63c9d42f5cf2#.vb74g4gti
By STU BURGUIERE
Donald Trump is the Republican nominee. Hillary Clinton is the Democratic nominee. I can’t vote for either of them.

Now what?

There is still a narrow path to a better option. It is time sensitive and difficult. But, it’s also doable.

We run an independent/third party conservative candidate —but in a different way than anyone is expecting. We need a massive election bailout, and this 0ur last chance. We need the Delorean to hit the wire while going exactly 88 miles per hour, just as lightning strikes the clock tower. But, as Doc and Marty proved…we can do it.

Here’s how. (see link for more)

Two weeks to get Romney to do it (yeah, right...) and get 1,000 signatures in Utah.  Signatures doable, but why would Mitt cut his throat politically?
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Mitt Romney, no.  Ben Sasse yes. 
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Alexander Acosta Labor Secretary resigned under pressure concerning his "sweetheart deal" with Jeffrey Epstein.  He was under consideration for AG after Sessions was removed, but was forced to resign instead.

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The Donny is but a stalking horse for The Clinton. He has no intention of SERVING anyone..never has  and never will! 
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Two weeks to get Romney to do it (yeah, right...) and get 1,000 signatures in Utah.  Signatures doable, but why would Mitt cut his throat politically?

Why Romney? Of all people. He is already seen a loser and a RINO.

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The Donny is but a stalking horse for The Clinton. He has no intention of SERVING anyone..never has  and never will!

"To Serve Man" is a new cookbook he has ordered from the aliens.

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Why Romney? Of all people. He is already seen a loser and a RINO.

Right. We need a man of action who knows how to run a solid campaign. Anyone know how to get a hold of Harold Stassen?

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Right. We need a man of action who knows how to run a solid campaign. Anyone know how to get a hold of Harold Stassen?


I think the toupee was an early Trump prototype....

I am imagining Stassen, LaRouche and Ron Paul running in a primary....

lol. I'd take Ron Paul over Trump in a... few heartbeats... lol
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Right. We need a man of action who knows how to run a solid campaign. Anyone know how to get a hold of Harold Stassen?

God help the USA if we get Hillary--the country goes buh bye

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"To Serve Man" is a new cookbook he has ordered from the aliens.

It's a cookbook!




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Romney failed once before.  BY HIS OWN ACTIONS.  What, does he want to seize this election now, with NO mandate, and throw it to the Dems once AGAIN?

Why even BOTHER?  Trump ain't gonna win.  By his own plan.  So why go to the effort of putting ANOTHER loser, a Certified RINO loser, in Trump's place?  Why, for the DRAMA?

It's done.  Like McQueeg in 2008.  Whether it was done by RINOs then, or Ron Paul retreads this year...it's a done deal.

Only the Grim Reaper can save us from what's coming.

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God help the USA if we get Hillary--the country goes buh bye

I don't know if you got the memo, but the country is already finished.

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Only the Grim Reaper can save us from what's coming.
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You can't save what you can't save.

NO one could save the Titanic.  Once it was holed, it was going DOWN.

The thing to do is mitigate the loss.

What that means for us is, figuring out What Is Next.  Do we have time for an Article V Convention of State Delegates?  Or is State Secession and an alternate Union the way to cut off Washington's tyrannical insanity?

Start thinking seriously.  The old bat wants to flood this nation with Bedoins.  Trumpy wants to repeat Smoot-Hawley; and it's obvious from his accusations, his slanders, his INABILITY to identify his opponents...that he's not right in the head, either.

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You can't save what you can't save.

NO one could save the Titanic.  Once it was holed, it was going DOWN.

The thing to do is mitigate the loss.

What that means for us is, figuring out What Is Next.  Do we have time for an Article V Convention of State Delegates?  Or is State Secession and an alternate Union the way to cut off Washington's tyrannical insanity?

Start thinking seriously.  The old bat wants to flood this nation with Bedoins.  Trumpy wants to repeat Smoot-Hawley; and it's obvious from his accusations, his slanders, his INABILITY to identify his opponents...that he's not right in the head, either.


Sorry but the Secession issue has been settled over 150 years ago!! Also there will not be an Article V. The only people who is pushing is Mark Attention Whore Levin.
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Well, that was a fun read, but unless someone like Mike Lee agrees to do it,  it's an idea that's still-born.

But what I'd like to see is a full-throated endorsement of Gary Johnson by one or more of the folks mentioned in the article.   I want to see Johnson get into the debates, and crash the party with a liberty-centric, growth-oriented message.   
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Sorry but the Secession issue has been settled over 150 years ago!! Also there will not be an Article V. The only people who is pushing is Mark Attention Whore Levin.

It was settled with ARMS - not with law.

And if you ask any Democrat, it was about Slavery, not States' Rights and Federalism. 

This isn't about trying to keep slaves.  This is about keeping sovereign citizens free.

There is nothing in LAW forbidding Secession.  And this time, unlike the Antebellum South, the strength, and the resources, would lie with the productive conservative States.  The Left has crippled the United States' military - and the Federal government is on an unsustainable path.

I call your attention to one particular essay:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

It's obvious you want to do NOTHING.

If you do what you always have done...let this continue...you will get what you've always gotten...ever-more-encroaching tyranny.

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It was settled with ARMS - not with law.

And if you ask any Democrat, it was about Slavery, not States' Rights and Federalism. 

This isn't about trying to keep slaves.  This is about keeping sovereign citizens free.

There is nothing in LAW forbidding Secession.  And this time, unlike the Antebellum South, the strength, and the resources, would lie with the productive conservative States.  The Left has crippled the United States' military - and the Federal government is on an unsustainable path.

I call your attention to one particular essay:

When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.

It's obvious you want to do NOTHING.

If you do what you always have done...let this continue...you will get what you've always gotten...ever-more-encroaching tyranny.

As a close second to slavery itself, the greatest evil of the southern states was tainting the principle of federalism with slavery.

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As a close second to slavery itself, the greatest evil of the southern states was tainting the principle of federalism with slavery.

Strong agreement here.  By using "federalism" to defend the indefensible, the principle has been forever tainted.

That's a big problem I have with Trump.  He's tainting the conservative brand with his appeals to xenophobia and racialism.   
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As a close second to slavery itself, the greatest evil of the southern states was tainting the principle of federalism with slavery.

Strong agreement here.  By using "federalism" to defend the indefensible, the principle has been forever tainted.

That's a big problem I have with Trump.  He's tainting the conservative brand with his appeals to xenophobia and racialism.   

I don't disagree with either of these. 

It's always important to remember that the driving force is separate from the mechanism.  Elections can be held to a bad end.  Federalism can be asserted to defend rights, or to perpetuate wrongs.

But principles, and process, and Rule of Law all do matter.  Self-government is a founding right, even when used to inappropriate or evil ends.  The thing to do is address the EVIL, not to abolish the system to supposedly preclude the evil.

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We need the Delorean to hit the wire while going exactly 88 miles per hour, just as lightning strikes the clock tower. But, as Doc and Marty proved…we can do it.


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Bunk.  Abbott, Rubio, Sowell, Coburn, Jindal, ...lots of people are for it.  http://www.conventionofstates.com/

It is in the Constitution, so clearly the ratifiers of the Constitution approved of it.approved of it.

Your smear on Mark Levin is unfounded.  The man works very har to educate the public about conservative principles.  You mention him on this issue because of his book, "The Liberty Amendments."  He is NOT attention seeking.  He is merely fighting for what he believes in.  If you disagree, fine.  But you smear is no real argument against his ideas and principles.  It's just a just a childish trumpy-type smear.

He tipped his hand.

Some people are VERY comfortable with the status quo and will aggressively work to stop agents of change.  They're the ones smearing the Tea Party and pretending they're kooks - often with plants with stupid signs, or with a fake interviews with confederates playing clueless.

They're the ones working hard for RINOs - the more Left the better.  The ones who wanted Shrub.  The ones who want Open Borders...who want a Kinder, Gentler Leftist government.

I have no time for such types.  We need to recognize them, marginalize them and ignore them.

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Why Romney? Of all people. He is already seen a loser and a RINO.

The author states why.

Who do you think would have a better shot at taking Utah over Trump/Hillary?
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You can't save what you can't save.

NO one could save the Titanic.  Once it was holed, it was going DOWN.

The thing to do is mitigate the loss.

What that means for us is, figuring out What Is Next.  Do we have time for an Article V Convention of State Delegates?  Or is State Secession and an alternate Union the way to cut off Washington's tyrannical insanity?

Start thinking seriously.  The old bat wants to flood this nation with Bedoins.  Trumpy wants to repeat Smoot-Hawley; and it's obvious from his accusations, his slanders, his INABILITY to identify his opponents...that he's not right in the head, either.
Currently, I see America being ripped apart to pieces [quite literally, as in the hideous attacks of its innocent citizens]. These evil acts mirror the 50-plus million abortions we have allowed for over 43 years in our nation.

How can we say we were not warned? 

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But I feel that the greatest destroyer of peace today is abortion, because it is a war against the child, a direct killing of the innocent child, murder by the mother herself.

And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell other people not to kill one another? How do we persuade a woman not to have an abortion? As always, we must persuade her with love and we remind ourselves that love means to be willing to give until it hurts. Jesus gave even His life to love us. So, the mother who is thinking of abortion, should be helped to love, that is, to give until it hurts her plans, or her free time, to respect the life of her child. The father of that child, whoever he is, must also give until it hurts.

By abortion, the mother does not learn to love, but kills even her own child to solve her problems.

And, by abortion, the father is told that he does not have to take any responsibility at all for the child he has brought into the world. That father is likely to put other women into the same trouble. So abortion just leads to more abortion.

Any country that accepts abortion is not teaching its people to love, but to use any violence to get what they want. This is why the greatest destroyer of love and peace is abortion.... -Mother Teresa, National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, DC, 3-3-94
I'll leave the "serious thinking" to Christian men much smarter than me; men like Ted Cruz (and Bobby Jindal too!), who, even with all of their brain power, though, and True love for America (and innocent life), couldn't get enough people to vote their cause, because we have destroyed conservatism in America [through abortion].

My guess, when the Titanic was sinking, is that there were many people on board who were screaming out to the Lord, possibly cursing, yes, but also to ask Him for help.
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