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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #175 on: July 25, 2016, 11:20:24 pm »
This is honestly a part of Trump's campaign that has me confused.  On the one hand, he seems to be arguing for more isolationism, and not getting us involved in overseas wars.  On the other, he's promising to destroy ISIS and stand up for us overseas.  And I haven't seem him speak clearly as to how those two goals can both be accomplished

I think he's arguing for this country and it's peoples welfare above that of involvement in other countries to the extent we have pushed for changes in their leaderships......which every one Hillary and Obama have led for regime change has ended up more violent and completely unstable. .....On the other hand he's been clear about Isis being a threat to this nation as it is to other nations...therefore taking them down, with the help of other nations also threatened, is certainly the way to go, and not waste time doing so....nor tie the hands of our military from getting the job done.

However, Trump has made a point saying he is not going to show his hand how he intends to do this......and I agree that we always let the eney know what we're going to do.....and that's just nuts!

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« Reply #176 on: July 26, 2016, 12:00:59 am »
Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary...type of identification?

I have to tell you that it has really started to delight me the level of anger that the Trump supporters have at we who will not vote for him or the other liberal running.  Sorry you haven't thrown off the chains of your party yet, even though it amuses me to no end.  Don't be mad at those of us who have.

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« Reply #177 on: July 26, 2016, 12:03:16 am »
Donald Trump is also loyal, and fair. He's a balanced human being - he's not like the caricature portrayed in a brutal, hard-fought political contest.

Loyal to whom? Certainly not the party. He was a Democrat as recently as 2009. He's been a member of at least three different parties since 2000. Certainly not his ex-wives. Certainly not "his good friends" the Clintons to whom he gave hundreds of thousands of dollars. Or maybe I'm wrong about the Clintons, perhaps he is being loyal to them. It is hard to tell. Why did he meet with Bill before announcing his latest run for President?

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« Reply #178 on: July 26, 2016, 12:42:24 am »
Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary...type of identification?

"I am a Trumpkin." That kind of identification.

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« Reply #179 on: July 26, 2016, 12:43:53 am »
I have to tell you that it has really started to delight me the level of anger that the Trump supporters have at we who will not vote for him or the other liberal running.  Sorry you haven't thrown off the chains of your party yet, even though it amuses me to no end.  Don't be mad at those of us who have.

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« Reply #180 on: July 26, 2016, 01:14:20 am »
Loyal to whom? Certainly not the party. He was a Democrat as recently as 2009. He's been a member of at least three different parties since 2000. Certainly not his ex-wives. Certainly not "his good friends" the Clintons to whom he gave hundreds of thousands of dollars. Or maybe I'm wrong about the Clintons, perhaps he is being loyal to them. It is hard to tell. Why did he meet with Bill before announcing his latest run for President?

He's loyal to a Capitalistic system vs a Crony Socialist system where the yoke of regulation will smother some ....to further an agenda.

He's loyal to Middle Class America who see the country overrun with every race and creed other than Caucasian....to further an agenda.

He sicked and damned tired of seeing our allies shunned and our enemies embraced, which was done....to further an agenda.

Shall I go on?       :whistle:
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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #181 on: July 26, 2016, 01:29:00 am »
He's loyal to a Capitalistic system vs a Crony Socialist system where the yoke of regulation will smother some ....to further an agenda.

He's loyal to Middle Class America who see the country overrun with every race and creed other than Caucasian....to further an agenda.

He sicked and damned tired of seeing our allies shunned and our enemies embraced, which was done....to further an agenda.

Shall I go on?       :whistle:

His "Capitalistic system" involves paying politicians for what he wants at the expense of those who do not pay. Sorry, but that's Crony capitalism. As far as "every race and creed" overrunning things, is that a new conservative position? I don't much care where people come from as long as they do it legally and are going to adopt our culture and embrace our constitution. And as far as shunning allies, Trump is the master and shunning those who could be allies if they refuse to kiss his ring.

After Cruz's speech all Trump had to say was "great speech, vote your conscience, vote for the constitution, vote for me" and it would have been a victory for all. But no, his pride couldn't do it. He has to destroy anyone who slights him in any way.

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« Reply #182 on: July 26, 2016, 12:10:28 pm »
"I am a Trumpkin." That kind of identification.
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Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary.

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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #183 on: July 26, 2016, 01:29:32 pm »

Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary.

Human beings, having evolved far beyond the monkey/lizard mental abilities, are usually capable of understanding most issues in something more than simple binary terms.

Apparently some cannot.

I oppose Trump and Hillary, just as I oppose cancer and Alzheimer's, abortion and irresponsible sex, or Fascism and Communism.

I oppose both, and it actually embarrasses and saddens me that the best that the nation that birthed giants like Jefferson, Adams, Washington, Lincoln and Reagan has left to offer, are these two.

I'm for neither. Choosing the lesser of two evils still delivers evil as a result of that choice, and the fact that some minds can't grasp that concept is quite possibly what has led us to this shameful point.
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« Reply #184 on: July 26, 2016, 01:33:18 pm »

Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary.

@WAC

Attempting to deflect by adopting that meme won't work.

You described yourself as a "Trumpkin" when you came out of the Trump closet, despite denying it yesterday.  I'm glad to see you're owning it now.

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« Reply #185 on: July 26, 2016, 01:37:07 pm »
He's loyal to a Capitalistic system vs a Crony Socialist system where the yoke of regulation will smother some ....to further an agenda.

He BRAGGED about using the crony capitalist system to his advantage on live TV.

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He's loyal to Middle Class America who see the country overrun with every race and creed other than Caucasian....to further an agenda.

He SAYS that he's loyal to Middle Class America who see the country overrun with every race and creed other than Caucasian....to further an agenda.

His election being the agenda.

Do you think increasing the price of retail goods by imposing tariffs on imports somehow helps the American Middle and low income classes?

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He sicked and damned tired of seeing our allies shunned and our enemies embraced, which was done....to further an agenda.

Which is why he constantly insults japan and threatens the NATO alliance.

Shall I go on?       :whistle:
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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #186 on: July 26, 2016, 01:54:03 pm »
Let's not forget #12. Donny is HILARIOUS!!!!!




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« Reply #187 on: July 26, 2016, 01:54:55 pm »
Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary...type of identification?

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« Reply #188 on: July 26, 2016, 02:01:56 pm »
...in fairness, though, I understand the dilemma Donald Trump's nomination puts people in. Calling them conflicted is putting it mildly. They hate Hillary, but they despise Donald Trump. What to do, what to do?

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« Reply #189 on: July 26, 2016, 02:14:09 pm »
...in fairness, though, I understand the dilemma Donald Trump's nomination puts people in. Calling them conflicted is putting it mildly. They hate Hillary, but they despise Donald Trump. What to do, what to do?

I suspect one of the most interesting results come November will be the percentages of
write-in votes or "None of the above"/"None of these candidates" votes. Because you're
right---there are plenty who despise both Donaldus Minimus and Hilarious Rodent
Clinton and wouldn't vote for either one. Those results should prove at least as interesting,
and telling.


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« Reply #190 on: July 26, 2016, 02:17:07 pm »
...in fairness, though, I understand the dilemma Donald Trump's nomination puts people in. Calling them conflicted is putting it mildly. They hate Hillary, but they despise Donald Trump. What to do, what to do?

Conflicted?  LOL, I made up my mind long, long ago.  I'm just sitting back and laughing as you folks get precisely what you asked for.  But you're going to go off that cliff without me beside you.

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« Reply #191 on: July 26, 2016, 02:24:23 pm »
You stated..."He's been a member of at least three different parties since 2000."

That would then appear he leans Independent....supporting whichever party, at the time, best represents what is most advantageous to his business which for most business owners is always of greater importance then social issues. Additionally in Trumps case, he payed to play as do all those in the top level of income earners do......one hand has always fed the other.......which because he's played the game knows who they are, and how they operate, and as we've seen exposed it for it is....


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« Reply #192 on: July 26, 2016, 02:37:22 pm »
You stated..."He's been a member of at least three different parties since 2000."

That would then appear he leans Independent....supporting whichever party, at the time, best represents what is most advantageous to his business which for most business owners is always of greater importance then social issues. Additionally in Trumps case, he payed to play as do all those in the top level of income earners do......one hand has always fed the other.......which because he's played the game knows who they are, and how they operate, and as we've seen exposed it for it is....

Yes, but, now, surprise! surprise! Everyone's feathers are all ruffled that Trump is part of the American pay-to-play political system they've known existed at least since conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of conservative radio, began widely exposing and criticizing it 25 years ago.

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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #193 on: July 26, 2016, 02:44:14 pm »
He's loyal to a Capitalistic system vs a Crony Socialist system where the yoke of regulation will smother some ....to further an agenda.

He's loyal to Middle Class America who see the country overrun with every race and creed other than Caucasian....to further an agenda.

He sicked and damned tired of seeing our allies shunned and our enemies embraced, which was done....to further an agenda.

Shall I go on?       :whistle:

Whites are the only people who can be middle class?  How nativist.  Caucasian is not a "creed."

He is shunning our allies by threatening to compromise our NATO obligations.

And Trump will, left to his own devices, impose further regulations on banks, on every American business and, indeed, on middle class Americans with his tariffs.

Shall I go on?
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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #194 on: July 26, 2016, 02:46:14 pm »

Like those who are opposing Trump but say they aren't for Hillary.

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Do you count me as a Trump supporter?  I'm not going to vote for Hillary.

Not gonna vote for the other liberal, either.  But by your logic, I support Trump because I'm not voting for Hillary.

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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #195 on: July 26, 2016, 02:48:08 pm »
What to do, what to do?

Easy....look at where each stands 'on the issues'.....and select the one that most represents your own.  That is what we are voting for....

We know Hillary will choose Liberal/progressive Judges, which that alone is sufficient reason to not vote for her.....
We know she will open the borders for every third world nations peoples to come here, bringing with the their backward cultures and violent natures, not to mention illnesses.... and with this most are illiterate even in their own language and culture so the welfare system will grow with 'Lifetime" and generation's of these people. .....Not to mention further giving amnesty to all the illegals here already...These are just a couple of the things WE KNOW she will indeed do.

Trump has shown conservative lists of those he's considering for Judges.....
Trump wants to secure the border by Tripling the number of ICE officers.....Nationwide e-verify........eliminating tax credit payments to illegal immigrants......Mandatory return of all criminal aliens, canceling any visas to foreign countries which will not accept their own criminals, and making it a separate and additional crime to commit an offense while here illegally. ...no more catch-and-release, no sanctuary cities while cutting off federal grants to any city which refuses to cooperate with federal law enforcement.....Individuals who refuse to leave at the time their visa expires will be subject to criminal penalties; ....Completion of a visa tracking system .... All illegal aliens in gangs be apprehended and deported. ..End birthright citizenship...and the list goes on......

These are just  two issues which I believe are important to this country........and sufficient enough, though Trump has several other positions I also agree on....

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Re: The 10 Most Important Reasons Trump Would Make a Great President.....
« Reply #196 on: July 26, 2016, 02:50:03 pm »
Yes, but, now, surprise! surprise! Everyone's feathers are all ruffled that Trump is part of the American pay-to-play political system they've known existed at least since conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of conservative radio, began widely exposing and criticizing it 25 years ago.

So we go from one Trump supporter claiming that Trunp's stand against crony capitalism is a virtue to anther one who laughs out loud about Trump being a player in the crony capitalism arena.

And you say that those who oppose Trump are conflicted?
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« Reply #197 on: July 26, 2016, 02:50:31 pm »
Yes, but, now, surprise! surprise! Everyone's feathers are all ruffled that Trump is part of the American pay-to-play political system they've known existed at least since conservative radio icon Rush Limbaugh, and the rest of conservative radio, began widely exposing and criticizing it 25 years ago.

And you're dreaming if you think Trump is going to change that crony capitalist system.

His kids would be running his business and will need things to stay just as they are.
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« Reply #198 on: July 26, 2016, 02:51:29 pm »
@WAC

Do you count me as a Trump supporter?  I'm not going to vote for Hillary.

Not gonna vote for the other liberal, either.  But by your logic, I support Trump because I'm not voting for Hillary.

I have yet to see a single Trump supporter respond when presented with their false logic as you just did.  Invariably, they drop it.

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« Reply #199 on: July 26, 2016, 02:55:57 pm »
@WAC

Do you count me as a Trump supporter?  I'm not going to vote for Hillary.

Not gonna vote for the other liberal, either.  But by your logic, I support Trump because I'm not voting for Hillary.

That you will have to determine for yourself.......but IMO the race has come down to two candidates.....not voting for either is refraining from participating with the reality of this Presidential election....even if one votes for another candidate just so they can say they voted.

I walked that walk with Romney.....believing I could vote for another candidate not actually with a chance to win. At the last moment I did vote for Romney as I realized I could not be responsible for Obama to win. Romney to me was the lesser of two evils.....and I would certainly do that again if I had to.