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You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« on: July 23, 2016, 02:10:44 am »
By Quin Hillyer
http://spectator.org/you-wanted-trump-youve-got-him/

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This should be the last time I write against Donald Trump all year.

Okay, all you conservatives who supported Donald Trump before he officially became the Republican Party’s official
nominee last night: Now, you own him. He’s all yours.

When he again spouts asinine or even vicious nonsense — like belittling tortured POWs from Vietnam, likening an
opponent to a child molester, smearing an innocent reporter, making fun of another reporter’s disability, or insinuating
that another opponent’s father conspired to kill JFK — he’s all yours.

When he again evinces sheer ignorance of basic policy questions, he’s all yours — and when he does worse, such
as advocating nukes for Saudi Arabia or the dissolution of NATO, he’s all yours then, too.

If, as seems likely, his tax returns are leaked, and if they contain all sorts of embarrassing revelations about (to name
a few hypotheticals) lack of charity, lack of earnings, questionable tax dodges, or unsavory associations, you own him.

If, as seems likely, more damning documents or evidence emerge from the court case alleging that Trump University
was an utter con job, you own him.

If, as seems possible, horrid information emerges relating to the suit alleging that Trump is a child rapist — even if not
proving that allegation, but showing a strong likelihood that he knowingly took part in Epsteinian parties where teenagers
were openly doing wildly inappropriate things — well, you own that, too.

If, as seems likely, his unprofessional campaign fails to produce the organization or money needed not just to keep the
awful Hillary Clinton from the White House, but even to provide an image of Republican leadership decent enough to
keep the GOP from getting wiped out in the Senate, the House, and other races down ballot, yes, you own that. (Here’s
predicting that he loses in November by near-Goldwateresque margins.)

You own his vulgarity. You own his viciousness and thuggishness, his admiration for tyrants and his own authoritarianism.
You own his ignorance, his self-absorption (or worse), his instability, his incompetence, his incontinent prevarications
small and outrageously large, his wild streak that tends to lead to serial failures, and his dangerous lack of diplomacy. You
also own his misogyny and his bigotry, and his penchant for trampling “ordinary Americans” under his feet. And if some
October indictment or health issue befalls Hillary Clinton, and therefore Trump, Lord forbid, becomes president, then you
own the dangerous national and international disorder that will ensue.

Yes, Hillary Clinton, for different reasons, is no better than Trump. But she’s also no worse. And if any other candidates
appear on the ballot, there is absolutely no moral imperative — none of this “a vote not for Trump is a vote for Hillary”
nonsense — to vote for either Trump or Clinton. A vote for Gary Johnson, or whomever else, is a vote for Gary Johnson
or whomever else. Period. (In my case, it is especially true: If Trump needs my vote to win Alabama, then Clinton will be
winning nationally by a landslide anyway, and my vote won’t stop it.) If one’s conscience cannot allow a vote for either
of two utterly unethical, hideous main-party contenders, then nobody should begrudge that conscience. (Some of us
have 24 years of anti-Hillary bona fides so strong that only an ignoramus would level a pro-Hillary label on us. One e.g.:
Guess who edited the book form of this?)

Nobody is duty-bound to choose between arsenic and cyanide. Thanks, I’ll take castor oil instead.

As for me, except perhaps for a few stray comments in the course of other work — or unless some major, galvanizing
conservative superstar enters the race as an independent with the against-the-odds wherewithal to secure enough ballot
access and financial support to be viable — this will be the last I write on this presidential campaign. Until Trump officially
had the nomination, conscience dictated that those who feel as I do had an obligation to exhaust every last opportunity
to stop him. Now that the nomination is, tragically, his, all words against Trump will be ascribed as pro-Clinton, and all
words against Clinton will be ascribed as pro-Trump. As neither option is acceptable, I will quietly vote for another candidate,
even if far from an ideal one — and will otherwise go about my business and write on policy and culture apart from this
sickening presidential campaign.

America faces the worst presidential choice, by far, in its history, and at a particularly perilous time. Here’s hoping that
Gary Johnson or some unknown white knight proves up to the moment, able to win a long-shot campaign and then find
the character and competence to well serve this wondrous nation. Otherwise, dark days probably await. They will be dark
days because Trump won the Republican nomination to take on Hillary, while too many people who should have known
better either abetted his effort, or capitulated too soon. Either way, material participation with his evils was and is a grave
civic sin. Let’s hope it’s not too deadly.


"The question of who is right is a small one, indeed, beside the question of what is right."---Albert Jay Nock.

Fake news---news you don't like or don't want to hear.

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2016, 02:15:19 am »
Okay, all you "conservatives" who supported Donald Trump before he officially became the Republican Party’s official
nominee last night: Now, you own him. He’s all yours.

There! Fixed it for him!

"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2016, 02:17:26 am »
Donnie keeps jumping into the well, and Lassie can't save him every time.
It seems Donnie wants attention so bad that he cannot help but jump into that well.
Now there is a 2-layer barb-wire fence with neon warning signs, I'm beginning to think it's no accident.

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2016, 02:19:57 am »
He's your Toyota now.

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2016, 02:29:44 am »
Excellent! I posted it on my FB page. Waiting for the fallout.  :shrug:

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2016, 02:45:18 am »
Yep, they got him...good and hard.
aka "nasty degenerate SOB," "worst of the worst at Free Republic," "Garbage Troll," "Neocon Warmonger," "Filthy Piece of Trash," "damn $#%$#@!," "Silly f'er," "POS," "war pig," "neocon scumbag," "insignificant little ankle nipper," "@ss-clown," "neocuck," "termite," "Uniparty Deep stater," "Never Trump sack of dog feces," "avid Bidenista," "filthy Ukrainian," "war whore," "fricking chump," psychopathic POS, and depraved SOB.

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2016, 02:49:03 am »
Yep, they got him...good and hard.

Democracy is the theory that the common people know what they want and deserve to get it,
good and hard.
---H.L. Mencken.


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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2016, 10:31:17 am »
A sad state of affairs....   **nononono*

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2016, 02:25:33 am »
Bigun wrote:
"Okay, all you "conservatives" who supported Donald Trump before he officially became the Republican Party’s official nominee last night: Now, you own him. He’s all yours."

Respectfully submitted:
Fine with me Bigun, I'll take it and run with it.

Y'know, if we go back in this forum to about August/September/October 2015 (and most of the readers of this post won't remember because they weren't here), I was saying that if the Republican nominee was ¡Jeb! or lil' Marco that I wouldn't be voting for them in 2016.

And I was roundly criticized for saying as much.

Back then, I said that it made no difference -who- I voted for (in Connecticut) because anyone on the Republican ticket couldn't win here again, ever.
So -- I had the luxury of withholding my vote if I wished, because it would make no difference.

But boy, am I in a pickle now!

o'er-the-hillary is still leading Trump here, but he's almost within striking distance, and the real horse race hasn't even started yet.

And now I'm faced with a decision I never thought I'd have to make again (so long as I remained here) -- could my vote actually end up counting in November?

I can't answer that question yet, but there's one thing I -CAN- say with complete assurance:
If it had been ¡Jeb!, or lil' Marco, or that pissant Kasich, or any other of the Republican candidates, they would have certainly lost here, no question. None of 'em had a chance here.

Except the guy who's running now.

So I may actually vote for him November 8.
I may actually get to make a difference.

But you, Bigun, now have the luxury of staying home.

Has turnabout become fair play?

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Re: You Wanted Trump, You've Got Him
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2016, 03:09:36 am »
@EasyAce

OUTSTANDING POST!!

Thanks!

« Last Edit: July 24, 2016, 03:11:22 am by Smokin Joe »
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