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JOHN GRAY: The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party
« on: July 20, 2016, 12:33:21 am »
The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party

by John Gray
July 19, 2016

In 1835, Senator and former Vice President John C. Calhoun gave a speech in which he commented on the public trust – the foundation of American government.

“The very essence of a free government,” he said, “consists in considering offices as public trusts, bestowed for the good of the country, and not for the benefit of an individual or a party.”

This notion of the public trust – that is, the idea that the public chooses to place their faith in elected officials who must then uphold the honor and trust placed in them by acting faithfully and morally is what has sustained our American republic for centuries.

However, perhaps the current political convention has been coup de grace in a perpetual decline of public trust in the party of politics, both Republican and Democrat.

Our Republican Party politicians have promised us one thing, and repeatedly done another. In the Senate, the Republican Majority Leader claims to be conservative, but then sets up conservative votes to fail while excoriating conservative senators for attempting to repeal Obamacare. Our presidential candidates lie to the voters and to Congress, and face no consequences, legal or otherwise. Administration officials choose made up narrative over fact when convincing Congress to pass major foreign policy initiatives.

There are so many examples of this country’s leaders – Republican and Democrat – putting their own selfish interests ahead of the voters.

But what happened in Cleveland yesterday afternoon at the Republican National Convention may convince us that it’s not just a handful of individuals that are corrupt – but that the entire institution is rotten to the core.

Yesterday, we saw the last remaining vestiges of the Republican Party’s public trust blown apart.

At the convention, there are a number of delegates, led by Senator Mike Lee, R-Utah. (A, 100%) and Ken Cuccinelli, who are pushing for a convention rules change that would “unbind” the convention delegates. That is, a rules change which would allow the delegates to vote as they individually choose, rather than be bound to a specific candidate by the overall vote of their states.

Whether or not you believe their position is correct is not the issue. The issue is that this group of delegates used the rights and rules granted to them as convention participants to move to have a roll call vote – once in committee and once on the convention floor.

What the first night in Cleveland demonstrated is that this new Republican Party is as intolerant, power-hungry and disrespectful to conservatives as the old one was.

However, in both cases, the Republican National Committee would have none of it. In a ponderous, big-footing way, the RNC leadership quashed debate, dissent and broke their own rules to ensure that nothing they disagreed with saw the light of day, let alone debate.

Instead of allowing full debate and a roll call vote – which the RNC leadership easily would have won – the RNC chair abandoned his post – and refused to recognize the delegates to offer their motion. While absent from his post, the RNC chair was reported to be “whipping” (i.e: bullying) delegates out of supporting the voices of others in the party, like Lee/Cuccinelli.

Shockingly, RNC leadership then refused to see these delates, nor make themselves available to receive the official petition for a roll call vote.  In thuggish, even Putin-like manner, they even went so far as to protect themselves with armed guards from their very own party.

Let’s be clear what was going on here. These weren’t Republicans fighting Democrats. These were Republicans fighting conservatives – conservatives who were fighting for transparency and openness.

And these weren’t just any conservatives, these were GOP acolytes, representing some of the finest minds in Republican politics. As my colleague Amanda Carpenter noted on Twitter, Senator Mike Lee is one of the Party’s best – and he was being shouted down by RNC leadership.

I shouldn’t have to tell you how twisted that is, nor what it means for the fate of the Republican party.  This is not an indictment of Trump, nor Pence.  This simply an anecdote to what the actual Republican Party, aside from the nominees, has become.

As conservatives, we are used to being shut out, stepped on, and shouted down by our own party. But to do so at the party convention – to do so on the public stage, in a televised power grab – is beyond the pale, and breaks all standards of political behavior, tolerance of dissent, and respect for a democratic process that allows all voices to be heard.

For those who thought the Republican party represented all voices, for those who were counting on the GOP to adhere to its legacy as the inclusive, principled party of Lincoln, you were sadly disappointed last night.

What the first night in Cleveland demonstrated is that this new Republican Party is as intolerant, power-hungry and disrespectful to conservatives as the old one was.

The public trust is broken. To repair it will require a change in party leadership from the RNC to the Congress, and a purging of the smug political elitism that reigns with the GOP. More importantly, it will require a return to the thoughtful tolerance for debate, a dedicated preference for principle, and a deep reflection on what it means to represent the trust of this American republic.
- See more at: https://www.conservativereview.com/commentary/2016/07/the-convention-proves-the-gop-is-a-dying-party#sthash.7D03TS7F.dpuf

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Re: JOHN GRAY: The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2016, 01:14:55 am »
The Convention Proves that the GOP is a Dying Dead Party!  Fixed it.
Romans 12:16-21

Live in harmony with one another; do not be haughty, but associate with the lowly, do not claim to be wiser than you are.  Do not repay anyone evil for evil, but take thought for what is noble in the sight of all.  If it is possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all…do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

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Re: JOHN GRAY: The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2016, 01:18:33 am »
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: JOHN GRAY: The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2016, 01:22:49 am »
You are right.  It's sad to see people you've trusted for a long time cave into the Trump mob.  I usually listen to Mark Levin everyday for 3 hours but I'm dumping him tonight.  I still respect him, but I just can't listen to him sell Trump.  He is not fully doing it yet, but he has fully hinted that that's where he's headed.  Oh well.  Another one bites the dust.  He's also singing the praises of Melania.  I don't care about her one way or the other really, but she's the one being placed in front of my face.  I am entitled to say that I don't want an ex porn star for First Lady.

If I don't listen, maybe I can regain respect after Trump loses.  If I listen, I may lose respect forever.

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Those who profess to favor freedom, and yet deprecate agitation, are men who want crops without plowing up the ground, they want rain without thunder and lightning, they want the ocean without the awful roar of its many waters.

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Re: JOHN GRAY: The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2016, 02:02:56 am »
There are 2 choices now. One is a real evil and will cause you and yours real harm. Time to choose.
Trump is for America First.
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« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2016, 02:22:15 am »
You are right.  It's sad to see people you've trusted for a long time cave into the Trump mob. .

I agree. It seems to me that everyone and everything is collapsing. Who would have thought that the GOP would be proposing a totally amoral idiot, a failed, multiply-bankrupt rich kid whose only success is the business Daddy left him (because it's run by other people) and his cheesy reality show.  The guy is ignorant of everything and, furthermore, he appears to think ignorance is a good thing.

I actually felt bad for the poor porn star Melanie (wife? ex-wife?)...she came here thinking she was seeking her fortune first in (lesbian) porn, and then she was going to move on to "modeling" (that is, working as an "escort" in Trump's "modeling" business, which he appears to have used for trying out girls). And then she hoped she'd find a sugar daddy and settle down, which she did do when Trump replaced Marla Maples, a gruesome event heavily reported in the NY press at the time.

We don't need this now. 330 million people, and this is all we can turn out?  Two cretins and angry losers?

The guy is stupid and ignorant as the day is long, and there's no way he'd get my vote.

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« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2016, 04:41:37 am »
There are 2 choices now. One is a real evil and will cause you and yours real harm. Time to choose.

We choose neither.

You've already chosen evil, one you deceived yourself is less evil than the other.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2016, 04:51:29 am »
There are 2 choices now. One is a real evil and will cause you and yours real harm. Time to choose.

There will be more choices than that on the ballot.
The Republic is lost.

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« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2016, 05:02:26 am »
There will be more choices than that on the ballot.

Including whichever Conservative you wish to write-in if your preferred is not on the ballot.

The Cult of personality will declare it wasted, but their party is dead and they said they do not need us - so why should they give a flying flip who any of us vote for?

We are their eternal enemies according to them.

Fine.  Let it be so.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2016, 06:25:15 am »
trump is real evil and will cause you and yours real harm. Also, there is way more than 2 choices and trump is definitely not the best of the choices. he ranks below Hillary.

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« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2016, 07:15:38 am »
There are 2 choices now. One is a real evil and will cause you and yours real harm. Time to choose.

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« Reply #11 on: July 20, 2016, 07:19:50 am »
"I wish it need not have happened in my time," said Frodo.

"So do I," said Gandalf, "and so do all who live to see such times. But that is not for them to decide. All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given us."
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« Reply #12 on: July 20, 2016, 11:15:04 am »
There are 2 choices now. One is a real evil and will cause you and yours real harm. Time to choose.

Hyperbolic fear mongering is all they have...

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Re: JOHN GRAY: The Convention Proves the GOP Is a Dying Party
« Reply #13 on: July 20, 2016, 11:50:56 am »
You are right.  It's sad to see people you've trusted for a long time cave into the Trump mob.  I usually listen to Mark Levin everyday for 3 hours but I'm dumping him tonight.  I still respect him, but I just can't listen to him sell Trump.  He is not fully doing it yet, but he has fully hinted that that's where he's headed.  Oh well.  Another one bites the dust.  He's also singing the praises of Melania.  I don't care about her one way or the other really, but she's the one being placed in front of my face.  I am entitled to say that I don't want an ex porn star for First Lady.



Is that so? Darn. I never listened regularly, but if I happen to be in the car at that time of night I'll usually turn in.  Levin was cagey for longer than one would have liked with his opinion about Trump last year, but he'd gone full firebrand by early this year. Oh well, what can you really expect from someone who earns at least part of his living as an entertainer?