Author Topic: Glenn Beck: If Ted Cruz Endorses Trump There Is No One in Washington I Can Trust Anymore (Read 4099 times)

RetBobbyMI · « **Reply #25 on:** July 18, 2016, 05:53:27 pm »

Quote from: MBB1984 on July 18, 2016, 05:35:59 pm

Cruz will endorse Trump. He made the loyalty pledge which he will keep. More importantly, Cruz will need Trump's voters when he runs for President. Cruz cannot simultaneously and perpetually act like a sore loser and a one man band and win the nomination. He cannot visibly backstab Trump in front of a Conservative audience without it ruining any possibility of victory.

Unless he gets MAJOR concessions from Trump, including a public apology, there is NO way Cruz will do more than tacitly endorse the GOP, not Trump personally. Trump needs Cruz supporters more than Cruz needs Trump.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 18, 2016, 06:10:01 pm »

Quote from: MBB1984 on July 18, 2016, 05:35:59 pm

Cruz will endorse Trump. He made the loyalty pledge which he will keep. More importantly, Cruz will need Trump's voters when he runs for President. Cruz cannot simultaneously and perpetually act like a sore loser and a one man band and win the nomination. He cannot visibly backstab Trump in front of a Conservative audience without it ruining any possibility of victory.

That's damn funny. There's a big difference in being a sore loser versus forgiving someone who has to deal with a turd who spreads false rumors about your marital fidelity, accuses your father of murdering JFK, splashes multiple tweets of smears of your wife, and memes a "Lyin" Tag ever time you are mentioned.

If you are too naive not to recognize that, I can't help you.

BTW....If you think Trump is a conservative, you are double cursed.

Suppressed · « **Reply #27 on:** July 18, 2016, 06:19:14 pm »

Quote from: MBB1984 on July 18, 2016, 05:35:59 pm

He made the loyalty pledge which he will keep.

You're forgetting that Trump voided that pledge back in March.

GrouchoTex · « **Reply #28 on:** July 18, 2016, 06:39:58 pm »

I disagree with Beck.
I wouldn't throw the baby out with the bath water.
Cruz, and Lee and people like him in office are rare.
Conservatives.
If we all dump Cruz because he supported Trump, is the next Ted Cruz of Texas waiting in the wings?
Maybe so, but we've waited for someone like him to come along since Reagan, and Reagan wasn't always 100% perfect, either.
Not sure I want to wait another 30+ years to find out, over one endorsement.

catfish1957 · « **Reply #29 on:** July 18, 2016, 06:49:50 pm »

Beck's become a nutcase as far as I am concerned. He was becoming a liability to Cruz' campaign anyway.

Sanguine · « **Reply #30 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:19:30 pm »

Quote from: TomSea on July 18, 2016, 04:38:10 pm

Is this making excuses for Glenn "Secret Service visit" and "suspended" Beck? Is this making excuses for Glenn "Pro-Gay Marriage" Beck? .....

Huh? What are you talking about?

rodamala · « **Reply #31 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:34:09 pm »

Quote from: RetBobbyMI on July 18, 2016, 04:28:31 pm

I don't think Cruz will even utter the word Trump (or Pence). He will probably talk at lengths about the meaning of conservatism, how the GOP in the past has been a foundation of constitutional conservatism and should be in the future...

At the end of that 90 second speech, I could only hope that Senator Cruz would drop the mic on the stage and walk out.

Sanguine · « **Reply #32 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:35:34 pm »

When does Cruz speak? I haven't had the TV on in days...and may keep it that way. But, I would like to hear Cruz.

RetBobbyMI · « **Reply #33 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:45:47 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on July 18, 2016, 07:35:34 pm

When does Cruz speak? I haven't had the TV on in days...and may keep it that way. But, I would like to hear Cruz.

Sometime Wednesday night. At the way they always run late, it won't be until after 10 pm EDT, is my guess. They don't want him too early so everyone will hear what he has to say. The only thing after him is the intro to Pence.

Sanguine · « **Reply #34 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:49:20 pm »

Quote from: RetBobbyMI on July 18, 2016, 07:45:47 pm

Sometime Wednesday night. At the way they always run late, it won't be until after 10 pm EDT, is my guess. They don't want him too early so everyone will hear what he has to say. The only thing after him is the intro to Pence.

Thanks. I'll leave it off until Wednesday.

skeeter · « **Reply #35 on:** July 18, 2016, 07:53:29 pm »

Quote from: MBB1984 on July 18, 2016, 05:35:59 pm

Cruz will endorse Trump. He made the loyalty pledge which he will keep. More importantly, Cruz will need Trump's voters when he runs for President. Cruz cannot simultaneously and perpetually act like a sore loser and a one man band and win the nomination. He cannot visibly backstab Trump in front of a Conservative audience without it ruining any possibility of victory.

Baloney.

No one accused Reagan of "backstabbing" Ford at the '76 convention. And he did just fine in 1980.

Only the Trump dead enders would think in those terms, and there ain't enough of those to make a difference.

INVAR · « **Reply #36 on:** July 18, 2016, 08:03:04 pm »

Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 18, 2016, 04:05:02 pm

Yes, God forbid any effort to unite the GOP to defeat Hillary.

Your candidate and your party made that an impossibility.

Your party needs to die and simply be folded into the Democrat Party where it's ideology and purpose is now aligned with.

You folks made Hillary inevitable the moment you enabled Trump to destroy Conservatives.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #37 on:** July 18, 2016, 08:30:25 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on July 18, 2016, 08:03:04 pm

Your candidate and your party made that an impossibility.

Your party needs to die and simply be folded into the Democrat Party where it's ideology and purpose is now aligned with.

You folks chose Hillary the moment you enabled Trump to destroy Conservatives.

Question for mods about rules:

If it is out of bounds, for a Trump supporter to call a #nevertrump a Hillary supporter,

then shouldn't it be equally out of bounds for a #nevertrump to call a Trump supporter a Hillary supporter ??

INVAR · « **Reply #38 on:** July 18, 2016, 08:34:13 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 18, 2016, 08:30:25 pm

Question for mods about rules:

If it is out of bounds, for a Trump supporter to call a #nevertrump a Hillary supporter,

then shouldn't it be equally out of bounds for a #nevertrump to call a Trump supporter a Hillary supporter ??

Hit the 'report' button.

It's what you people are good at.

Edited to assuage snowflakes.

Sanguine · « **Reply #39 on:** July 18, 2016, 08:35:15 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 18, 2016, 08:30:25 pm

Question for mods about rules:

If it is out of bounds, for a Trump supporter to call a #nevertrump a Hillary supporter,

then shouldn't it be equally out of bounds for a #nevertrump to call a Trump supporter a Hillary supporter ??

Good grief, T-S, are you just going around looking for excuses to be insulted? Come on, it's the Convention! Your guy is winning. Enjoy!

truth_seeker · « **Reply #40 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:06:22 pm »

Quote from: Sanguine on July 18, 2016, 08:35:15 pm

Good grief, T-S, are you just going around looking for excuses to be insulted? Come on, it's the Convention! Your guy is winning. Enjoy!

I just want the substantive question addressed. Your response has no substance.

Sanguine · « **Reply #41 on:** July 18, 2016, 09:11:02 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 18, 2016, 09:06:22 pm

I just want the substantive question addressed. Your response has no substance.

OK, that's a "yes" then. Got it.

RetBobbyMI · « **Reply #42 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:10:38 pm »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 18, 2016, 08:30:25 pm

Question for mods about rules:

If it is out of bounds, for a Trump supporter to call a #nevertrump a Hillary supporter,

then shouldn't it be equally out of bounds for a #nevertrump to call a Trump supporter a Hillary supporter ??

Has this site really stooped that low that it is all about name calling?

MACVSOG68 · « **Reply #43 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:12:42 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on July 18, 2016, 08:03:04 pm

Your candidate and your party made that an impossibility.

Your party needs to die and simply be folded into the Democrat Party where it's ideology and purpose is now aligned with.

You folks made Hillary inevitable the moment you enabled Trump to destroy Conservatives.

As you already know, I continue to disagree with you on multiple levels. If my Party dies, I will be consoled it won't be the result of my failure to recognize the true dangers to this Nation, which along with the far left are those on the right side who, election after election continue to want to take the Party back to a fantasized eighteenth century version of "moral" purity. Hillary may well be elected, but just as with those here who have bragged they helped stop McCain and Romney, your side cannot do everything to hinder a GOP victory and be considered conservative by any definition.

INVAR · « **Reply #44 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:24:13 pm »

Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 18, 2016, 10:12:42 pm

As you already know, I continue to disagree with you on multiple levels. If my Party dies, I will be consoled it won't be the result of my failure to recognize the true dangers to this Nation, which along with the far left are those on the right side who, election after election continue to want to take the Party back to a fantasized eighteenth century version of "moral" purity. Hillary may well be elected, but just as with those here who have bragged they helped stop McCain and Romney, your side cannot do everything to hinder a GOP victory and be considered conservative by any definition.

You can have your party and all the liberalism it now embraces as conservatism. You made Christian Conservatives your enemy and you purged us from your party. We wash our hands of it and all of you.

And yes, we will do all we can to hinder, harm and derail liberalism and every other sort of big government idiocracy you folks now embrace as nationalist populism. We don't care which party or faction it comes from.

MACVSOG68 · « **Reply #45 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:30:26 pm »

Quote from: INVAR on July 18, 2016, 10:24:13 pm

You can have your party and all the liberalism it now embraces as conservatism. You made Christian Conservatives your enemy and you purged us from your party. We wash our hands of it and all of you.

And yes, we will do all we can to hinder, harm and derail liberalism and every other sort of big government idiocracy you folks now embrace as nationalist populism. We don't care which party or faction it comes from.

Not so. I've not helped drive the Religious Right out, nor do I suspect you speak for them. In fact I want to see a political party that encompasses all ideologies of the right. But have fun with your new party...

RetBobbyMI · « **Reply #46 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:41:29 pm »

Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 18, 2016, 10:30:26 pm

Not so. I've not helped drive the Religious Right out, nor do I suspect you speak for them. In fact I want to see a political party that encompasses all ideologies of the right. But have fun with your new party...

So then what of the Constitution Party does not meet that criteria?

INVAR · « **Reply #47 on:** July 18, 2016, 10:45:17 pm »

Quote from: MACVSOG68 on July 18, 2016, 10:30:26 pm

Not so. I've not helped drive the Religious Right out, nor do I suspect you speak for them. In fact I want to see a political party that encompasses all ideologies of the right.

Doubtful. You just said that you recognize the "true danger to the nation" is from us "moral purists" (i.e. Christian Conservatives), which is in keeping with the way both Trump and your party have regarded and treated us.

I think you are happy we are purged from your party with the remnant in exodus considering you see us as a 'danger to the nation'.

Which is in perfect harmony with the Trump supporters declaring us to be enemies of the state and traitors.

You have achieved what you and your party desired. Enjoy.

We wash our hands of you and your dead party.

truth_seeker · « **Reply #48 on:** July 18, 2016, 11:38:59 pm »

Quote from: RetBobbyMI on July 18, 2016, 10:10:38 pm

Has this site really stooped that low that it is all about name calling?

Ever since the arrivals of #nevertrumps a couple of months ago.

Before that, it was nothing like this at all.

INVAR · « **Reply #49 on:** July 19, 2016, 12:12:29 am »

Quote from: truth_seeker on July 18, 2016, 11:38:59 pm

Ever since the arrivals of #nevertrumps a couple of months ago.

Before that, it was nothing like this at all.

Keep praying and petitioning the owners and mods to have us purged from your site ala JR at TOS.

It's what you folks are good at doing.