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A curveball in Trump’s Veep search: He’s seriously considering a retired general

By Robert Costa July 9 at 12:49 PM

After weeks of focusing on a group of current and former elected officials in his search for a running mate, Donald Trump is increasingly intrigued by the idea of tapping retired Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn in order to project strength and know-how on national security, according to four people familiar with the vetting process.

Flynn, 57, a registered Democrat but fierce critic of President Obama, previously ran the Defense Intelligence Agency.

The persons, who spoke with The Washington Post on Saturday, requested anonymity to discuss their private conversations in recent days with Trump’s confidants and campaign aides.

The turn toward a military figure is being driven by Trump himself rather than by his advisers, the people said, and comes as the real estate mogul is telling his friends that national unrest may demand a “tough and steady” presence alongside him on the ticket.

In Flynn, they added, Trump believes he would have a partner whom he trusts, based on their close working relationship over the course of the campaign on policy. And he likes the image of a businessman and a general coming to Washington as outsiders.

The shift in how Trump is evaluating his short list is driven by his growing sense that he does not necessarily want or need a running mate who will satisfy Republican insiders, in spite of long saying that he would likely go in that direction. Instead, and after some testy exchanges with GOP lawmakers during his visit to Capitol Hill on Thursday, Trump is more open than ever to going with a non-politician.

As multiple people explained, Trump is eager to rally the party around him but sees the convention and other parts of the campaign as integral to that goal, with the vice-presidential nod potentially more important in terms of what it broadly symbolizes to voters.

“Trump-Flynn. I’ve heard him say that, kind of test out the sound of it,” one person said of how Trump is mulling the possibility. “I think it’s a brand he finds appealing.”

A Trump campaign spokeswoman declined to comment. A spokesperson for Flynn was unavailable.

Flynn’s formal vetting by the Trump campaign was first reported by the New York Post. In an interview with the newspaper, Flynn did not deny that he was under consideration.

“All I would say is that I have been honored to serve my country for the past three decades and look forward to serving in other ways now that I am retired from the U.S. Army,” Flynn said. “I’ve been a soldier too long to refuse to entertain any request from a potential commander in chief.”

Still, Trump remains undecided on his vice-presidential pick, the people said. While warming toward Flynn, Indiana Gov. Mike Pence and former House speaker Newt Gingrich, among several others, are being vetted and many of his associates are urging him to go with a seasoned governor or senator who could help to unite the party.


Trump is said to be understanding and open to that argument but he is slightly bored by the prospect of going with a traditional Republican. As a longtime celebrity, he has countered that advice with points about the need for surprise and star power. But he is torn about whether his gut instincts should outweigh political calculation, the people said.

“I like the generals. I like the concept of the generals. We’re thinking about — actually there are two of them that are under consideration,” Trump said Wednesday on Fox News. He then acknowledged that for months he has been “really looking to go more the political route.”

One person encouraging Trump to perhaps choose a general is Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), who has become a force inside of the campaign. He shares Trump’s view that while unorthodox, a general could excite voters from both parties who want to see wholesale change in domestic politics and an aggressive approach to combating terrorism.

Flynn, a Rhode Island native whose book “Field of Fight: How We Can Win the Global War Against Radical Islam and Its Allies,” comes out July 12, has shown a willingness to be an attack dog, a role often played by vice-presidential candidates.


"If it were me, I would have been out the door and probably in jail," Flynn told CNN in February when asked about presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton’s email practices while secretary of state. He called on her to drop out of the race.

Flynn did not leave the Obama administration on warm terms. In 2014, he was effectively forced out of the Defense Intelligence Agency as part of a leadership shake-up after clashing with officials over his management style and vision for the agency.

Beyond Flynn, another name that had been mentioned in campaign talks is retired Gen. Jack Keane, the hawkish former Army vice chief of staff. Trump campaign allies have been in touch with Keane in recent weeks though he has not submitted vetting documents.

When reached by phone Saturday, Keane said he would not be willing to be part of the Republican ticket.

“I’m not in a position to go back into public service,” Kean said, and advised Trump to resist the temptation to pick a general.

“We have a sufficient political class and the military doesn’t have to get involved in high national office. The days of doing that, post-Civil War and post-World War II, are gone.”

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After all the sh*t Newt has eaten for Trump over the last six months, and this is the thanks he gets?

Imagine that:  Priebus would be introducing a Republican ticket with two Democrats on it.
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After all the sh*t Newt has eaten for Trump over the last six months, and this is the thanks he gets?

Imagine that:  Priebus would be introducing a Republican ticket with two Democrats on it.

Once again, Roman P Trump may consider anyone he wishes. Where he is running into problems is those people wanting to be considered.

He is just so used to ordering people around that he doesn't get that people in the real world have choices...
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Trump is said to be understanding and open to that argument but he is slightly bored by the prospect of going with a traditional Republican

I really don't want the future of the country to be at risk on whether Emperorange is bored or not that day.

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After all the sh*t Newt has eaten for Trump over the last six months, and this is the thanks he gets?
Imagine that:  Priebus would be introducing a Republican ticket with two Democrats on it.

He could choose Newt for his Chief of Staff.  Newt could keep him from falling on his face every minute as regards how this government works.

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I really don't want the future of the country to be at risk on whether Emperorange is bored or not that day.

Amen to that.  Or whether he is operating on one hour of sleep while doing imaginary tweets against one of his many enemies.
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He could choose Newt for his Chief of Staff.  Newt could keep him from falling on his face every minute as regards how this government works.

Even if Newt had super powers and a cape, he couldn't keep Trump from falling on his face or shooting himself in the foot every time he opens his mouth or tweets.
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Then, of course, there's Manafort's lobbying for Putin's buddy in Ukraine:

https://www.buzzfeed.com/bensmith/manafort-russia?utm_term=.cuQRPzLxy#.yn88V6Lqy
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What bothers me is the idea of coupling extreme narcissism and a major power trip with military know-how.

Trump doesn't understand that government cannot be run like a business or like the military.

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After watching Newt on Greta the other night he admitted he was being vetted for VP and suggested that he would serve in any capacity. He also suggested that he would be a good go-between for Trump and Congress.
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Trump is said to be understanding and open to that argument but he is slightly bored by the prospect of going with a traditional Republican. As a longtime celebrity, he has countered that advice with points about the need for surprise and star power.

This is hysterical in a way that brings tears to my eyes; everything about Trump is showmanship.
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He might want to check with Ross Perot on how that strategery worked out last time.
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“Trump-Flynn. I’ve heard him say that, kind of test out the sound of it,” one person said of how Trump is mulling the possibility. “I think it’s a brand he finds appealing.”

Well, it's no Tyler & Tippecanoe, but it does have a certain ring to it.  Who cares about the substance of it if it sounds like a winner!

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"As a longtime celebrity, he has countered that advice with points about the need for surprise and star power."
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This is hysterical in a way that brings tears to my eyes; everything about Trump is showmanship.

I can see a mental image of the image Trump likely sees:  Him as president except with a broad sash across his chest with flashy medals on it he gave to himself, AND standing next to him as his underling, General Flynn, with dress uniform, medals on his chest and collar.  Trump will seriously think he rules the world - tell them what to do and they do it or he pushes the red button and they get instant death penalty.

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He might want to check with Ross Perot on how that strategery worked out last time.

Or George Wallace with Curtis LeMay.
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I really don't want the future of the country to be at risk on whether Emperorange is bored or not that day.

Can't help but wonder if he will get bored with Melania, too, trading her in for a hotter later model.
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Can't help but wonder if he will get bored with Melania, too, trading her in for a hotter later model.

His wives know if they complain about his cheating, they are gone.

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"As a longtime celebrity, he has countered that advice with points about the need for surprise and star power."
You replied:
I can see a mental image of the image Trump likely sees:  Him as president except with a broad sash across his chest with flashy medals on it he gave to himself, AND standing next to him as his underling, General Flynn, with dress uniform, medals on his chest and collar.  Trump will seriously think he rules the world - tell them what to do and they do it or he pushes the red button and they get instant death penalty.

Ha! Yes! He will "deem" them dead. (I liked that other commentary of yours, too!)  ^-^
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Can't help but wonder if he will get bored with Melania, too, trading her in for a hotter later model.

I know of one person who "Hopes" so...

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Maybe a Vice President Qaddafi, you know... if he were alive.... American... and anyone knew how to spell his name


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I know of one person who "Hopes" so...

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Tee-hee!
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Or maybe Melania will set a new trend and dumb his sorry fat self and those creepy grandma lips, trading in for a better and newer model.  Sweeter still, a richer model.  That would hurt his ego big time.

I vote for your scenario.
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