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« Reply #75 on: July 07, 2016, 11:07:10 pm »
Quote from: Gov Bean Counter on July 07, 2016, 11:02:28 pm
I am just going to see how this plays out.

That's fair enough.  I suppose I should, too.
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« Reply #76 on: July 07, 2016, 11:08:01 pm »
Quote from: WAC on July 07, 2016, 08:23:44 pm
No it won't.......Ted Cruz does what he sees is best for this country and has his eyes always on the bigger picture.  Hillary cannot be given the Presidency.  I think we'll see Cruz's endorsement at convention....

endorsing a vile, vulgar, unhinged lunatic for President should be the end of anyones career
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #77 on: July 07, 2016, 11:10:01 pm »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 07, 2016, 11:07:10 pm
That's fair enough.  I suppose I should, too.

I have a lot of respect with you and have enjoyed reconnecting on this forum. Blessings to you and your family.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #78 on: July 07, 2016, 11:15:12 pm »
Quote from: GrouchoTex on July 07, 2016, 08:36:44 pm
Hey, they are both Christians, right?
Maybe they were moved to work together?
I don't know, just throwing out there.
Who am I to judge?
Who knows?
We'll see.
LOL ~ If Trump is a Christian, he keeps it hidden [way down in a cellar somewhere]; the strongest Christians in the world, however, are the ones who can forgive without being asked. Ted Cruz works hard for his family, God, and country, etc., and because of this strong love, I believe he forgave Trump a long time ago. Without doing so, he'd be stuck in quicksand, or at least mud. Not Cruz's style.

Possibly the only way Ted would endorse Trump is if he was selected as his VP. If that be the case, and he accepts, I'll punch the Trump/Cruz ticket. Trump is not that healthy spiritually, physically, mentally, emotionally, so anything to get Ted in the White House...........
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #79 on: July 07, 2016, 11:22:42 pm »
Quote from: geronl on July 07, 2016, 08:20:27 pm
Any kind of Trump endorsement would be the end of his career

Actually I think Cruz has more to lose by not endorsing Trump...he still needs party support for his reelection to the Senate.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #80 on: July 07, 2016, 11:24:00 pm »
Quote from: geronl on July 07, 2016, 11:08:01 pm
endorsing a vile, vulgar, unhinged lunatic for President should be the end of anyones career

Well there's been plenty long before Trump that have been endorsed......and are doing quite well in their career's......Obama won twice.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #81 on: July 07, 2016, 11:25:52 pm »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 07, 2016, 10:55:32 pm
Even though there won't be an endorsement, the media will portray it as one...in fact, they already are.    That will be the narrative going forward.

That's really not surprising or much a stretch.  Cruz will be speaking at a convention nominating Donald Trump.   :shrug:
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #82 on: July 07, 2016, 11:26:42 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 07, 2016, 11:22:42 pm
Actually I think Cruz has more to lose by not endorsing Trump...he still needs party support for his reelection to the Senate.

I agree....especially as we see Republicans get behind him now.....Cruz isn't going to take himself out of the plays ahead..and he still has his delegates if this is a GOPe revolt attempting to derail Trump at convention....and it could be just that. Cruz has got leverage as no other than the delegates themselves.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #83 on: July 07, 2016, 11:35:34 pm »
Quote from: mlizzy on July 07, 2016, 11:15:12 pm
LOL ~ If Trump is a Christian, he keeps it hidden [way down in a cellar somewhere]; the strongest Christians in the world, however, are the ones who can forgive without being asked. Ted Cruz works hard for his family, God, and country, etc., and because of this strong love, I believe he forgave Trump a long time ago. Without doing so, he'd be stuck in quicksand, or at least mud. Not Cruz's style.

http://thatwordsite.com/2012/10/talk-the-hind-legs-off-a-donkey/

That is an excellent point, ML. Although I'm not sure there is an obligation to grant forgiveness if forgiveness isn't sought.

For example as a christian Ben Carson was obligated to forgive Cruz following Cruz's several apologies.

But I believe Cruz would even if no apology was forthcoming.

I would give alot of careful consideration before endorsing Trump, though. I certainly would not endorse him until I saw some evidence he is ready to mount a serious campaign and cut the BS. If he doesn't get serious real soon, it may turn out that endorsing Trump will be the political equivalent of the kiss of death.

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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2016, 11:47:53 pm »
Quote from: geronl on July 07, 2016, 08:20:27 pm
Any kind of Trump endorsement would be the end of his career
Agreed.

Cruz should NEVER EVER EVER endorse Trump.  Not just because the guy is a fraud con man LIBERAL, but because of how much of an absolute @$$hole he was TO Cruz and Cruz' family.

THAT should NEVER be forgotten or allowed to be given a pass.  Not in the political sense. Cruz might say he forgives Trump for all the slander, lies, propaganda and smears, but he should NEVER jump on board with ANYTHING Team Trump.

Not if he truly means to hold onto his integrity and principles. IMO.  I know as a die hard Cruz supporter, I would lose respect for Ted Cruz if he ever did support, or endorse, Trump
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« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2016, 11:51:25 pm »
Quote from: Gov Bean Counter on July 07, 2016, 11:10:01 pm
I have a lot of respect with you and have enjoyed reconnecting on this forum. Blessings to you and your family.

That means a lot to me and I truly thank you.  God bless you and yours, my friend.
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« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2016, 11:53:51 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 07, 2016, 11:25:52 pm
That's really not surprising or much a stretch.  Cruz will be speaking at a convention nominating Donald Trump.   :shrug:

Though he (or anyone else) could speak, for example, on Constitutional principles and never mention the candidate's name.

But we expect the media to be underhanded, don't we?
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2016, 11:59:43 pm »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 07, 2016, 09:43:53 pm
Who give a flying fig who asked who ....  Trump has the most to gain ... the gold ring... the oval office--- so it make sense that he reach out.

Stop, in the name of all that is rational, with the drama.    **nononono*
Says the person who obviously doesn't give a rats behind about integrity, content of character or being an honorable person.

Because if you did, that stuff you call "drama" WOULD matter.  And it should, after all the crap, slander, sleaze, and absolute trash that Trump threw at Cruz and his family.    He proved he has no class, no integrity, no honor and certainly lacks any semblance of character.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #88 on: July 08, 2016, 12:02:27 am »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 07, 2016, 11:07:10 pm
That's fair enough.  I suppose I should, too.

It's all we can do.

But no matter what happens (unless Trump isn't nominated) we have the two most foul, corrupt, rotten people in the country running for President representing the two major parties.

NO one with any sense of morality, decency, or patriotism should be happy about this election.

It reveals the depth of degradation to which this country has sunk.

And no matter how stellar Ted Cruz' speech is, the degeneracy of Donald Trump isn't going to change.

I can't vote for him.  My conscience will not allow it.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #89 on: July 08, 2016, 12:04:23 am »
Quote from: L9teen on July 07, 2016, 11:59:43 pm
Says the person who obviously doesn't give a rats behind about integrity, content of character or being an honorable person.

Because if you did, that stuff you call "drama" WOULD matter.  And it should, after all the crap, slander, sleaze, and absolute trash that Trump threw at Cruz and his family.    He proved he has no class, no integrity, no honor and certainly lacks any semblance of character.

Amen!

And as I just said, Cruz' speech isn't going to instill integrity or character into Donald Trump's black soul.

We still have the same options with the two major parties.  Evil.  And Evil.
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Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #90 on: July 08, 2016, 12:11:33 am »
Trump needs Cruz to speak after he told him he would not allow him to speak unless he endorsed Trump, because Trump knows he runs the risk of not having enough delegates and that is why he met with the GOP Senators.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #91 on: July 08, 2016, 12:11:55 am »
Quote from: CatherineofAragon on July 07, 2016, 11:51:25 pm
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #92 on: July 08, 2016, 12:14:03 am »
Unless Trump were to come out while Cruz is speaking and encourage all his supporters back Cruz as the nominee, I will not vote for the GOP this fall. Putting Cruz at the top of the ticket is the ONLY thing that will change my opinion.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #93 on: July 08, 2016, 12:16:39 am »
Quote from: INVAR on July 08, 2016, 12:11:33 am
Trump needs Cruz to speak after he told him he would not allow him to speak unless he endorsed Trump, because Trump knows he runs the risk of not having enough delegates and that is why he met with the GOP Senators.

Yes! Someone is advising Trump, and he must be actually listening? :thud:
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #94 on: July 08, 2016, 12:28:20 am »
Trump got rolled by Cruz.

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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #95 on: July 08, 2016, 01:07:06 am »

That's exactly right.....but we can't overlook either that Trump did ask Cruz to assist in cultivating a longer list of conservative judicial appointees, and Cruz obliged him. .....Remember Cruz said  he wants to "ensure"  principled conservatives on the court"......
Further Cruz said he'd be speaking about "Conservatism" in his speech at Convention.




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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #96 on: July 08, 2016, 01:22:49 am »
Quote from: Leto on July 07, 2016, 10:51:52 pm
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/437580/breaking-cruz-accepts-trump-offer-speak-cleveland


Crux getting a speaking slot w/o an endorsement is a good thing. Cruz getting input on court appointments is better. I expect Ted's speech to concern conservative principles. Cruz is a student of history see Reagan's speech in 76.

I was waiting for someone to mention Reagan's speech in 76......certainly set him up for the win later on....remarkably well...
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #97 on: July 08, 2016, 01:28:13 am »
If he is in fact scheduled, the telling story is when? Before or after the nominations.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #98 on: July 08, 2016, 01:31:33 am »
Quote from: WAC on July 08, 2016, 01:22:49 am
I was waiting for someone to mention Reagan's speech in 76......certainly set him up for the win later on....remarkably well...

Yes and Reagan gave, not withheld, his endorsement of Gerald Ford in 1976. Very much worth noting.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #99 on: July 08, 2016, 01:33:39 am »
Quote from: WAC on July 07, 2016, 08:04:13 pm
Former Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz will speak at the Republican National Convention in Cleveland, the Texas senator's office announced Thursday, after the presumptive GOP nominee Donald Trump asked him to.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/07/politics/donald-trump-meets-with-ted-cruz-reince-priebus/

Paul Ryan was very upbeat after Trump addressed the GOP House Caucus today.   

Maybe things will come together after all.

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