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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #100 on: July 08, 2016, 01:35:08 am »
Quote from: sinkspur on July 08, 2016, 12:28:20 am
Trump got rolled by Cruz.



I actually think that Trump's people looked at the delegate mutiny and did some hard counting and woke up to the very real fact they do not have enough to get nominated.

That's when Trump put the call out to meet with the GOP senators and Cruz.

At least that is how it looks to me.

Hillary cannot risk someone other than Trump running, because Trump is her stalking horse and her guarantee to the crowning.

Because up until the news about the delegates was reaching critical mass, Trump was dismissive of Cruz even being allowed at the Convention unless he endorsed him.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #101 on: July 08, 2016, 01:49:06 am »
Quote from: truth_seeker on July 08, 2016, 01:31:33 am
Yes and Reagan gave, not withheld, his endorsement of Gerald Ford in 1976. Very much worth noting.

There's no comparison between Ford and Trump. 

Endorsing the honorable Gerald Ford is entirely different than endorsing the devoid-of-integrity Donald Trump.

There was no damage to Reagan because of his endorsing Ford.  There will be enormous damage to Cruz if he endorses Trump.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #102 on: July 08, 2016, 01:50:50 am »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on July 08, 2016, 01:36:39 am
Yes.  And Ford was a terrible candidate.  But you cannot really compare Ford and Trump.  Trump is flat out appalling in character and mode of operation.  Anyone who gets near that hideous campaign will get burned in the end.  Wait and see.   "I'm with the racist bully who called my wife ugly, my dad a murderer, my kids...whatever...and myself a liar" will not be easy to explain away.  Do constitutional conservative principles and character matter or is power the only "principle" Republicans have left?

When we see how this plays out, we'll find out if there are any Republicans left with Constitutional Conservative principles.

If they all sell out to this degenerate, then it only reinforces my decision to leave the Republican party for good.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #103 on: July 08, 2016, 01:51:31 am »
Quote from: sinkspur on July 08, 2016, 12:28:20 am
Trump got rolled by Cruz.



May it be so!!
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #104 on: July 08, 2016, 01:55:12 am »
Quote from: musiclady on July 08, 2016, 01:51:31 am
May it be so!!

I plan to see it all.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #105 on: July 08, 2016, 01:56:28 am »
After talking contemporaneously for a good period of time and rousing the delegates, he should say something to the effect of he is releasing his delegates and encourage all delegates to vote their conscience. And to not fear any repercussions.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #106 on: July 08, 2016, 01:57:04 am »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on July 08, 2016, 01:54:29 am
So true.

Honestly I do still think Cruz is a principled conservative.  He is faced with so many bad choices right now, strategically speaking, that he is bound to make some errors.  I'm not writing him off or anything.  I just think he may get burned by this move.  However someone else said Cruz had enough delegates that Trump really had to let him speak.  So it is possible we are getting the Trump spin on this.

I'm not drawing any conclusions either.

And I also still believe Cruz to be honorable.

And if we are getting Trump spin on this, we know for sure that it is a lie.

Because that's pretty much all Trump does.

Ever.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #107 on: July 08, 2016, 01:58:45 am »
Quote from: Bigun on July 08, 2016, 01:55:12 am
I plan to see it all.

Report back here, OK?

Cause I'm not watching a minute of this Trump fiasco.


(Except maybe Cruz' speech.  It will stand out because of its honesty).
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #108 on: July 08, 2016, 02:05:17 am »
Quote from: don-o on July 07, 2016, 09:58:44 pm
Dated June 26  http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/284956-trump-wont-invite-cruz-kasich-to-speak-at-convention

June 26 wasn't yesterday. The surprising thing is that Trump waited more than 24 hours to reverse himself.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #109 on: July 08, 2016, 02:19:42 am »
Quote from: musiclady on July 08, 2016, 01:58:45 am
Report back here, OK?

Cause I'm not watching a minute of this Trump fiasco.


(Except maybe Cruz' speech.  It will stand out because of its honesty).

As time permits I  will do.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #110 on: July 08, 2016, 02:36:03 am »
Quote from: Bigun on July 08, 2016, 02:19:42 am
As time permits I  will do.

Thank you!  As @RAT Patrol has said, I trust you completely to give an accurate report of what's really going on.   :patriot:
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #111 on: July 08, 2016, 02:46:11 am »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on July 08, 2016, 02:04:12 am
@Bigun

Ditto for me.  I can't stomach watching or even listening to the Trump Sideshow.  I trust Bigun and some others to tell us what we need to know.

I might actually tune into the Clinton/Trump debates, though.  I have a feeling they will be a must see.

Lots of popcorn!  I hope Cruz is up first so I can listen and then turn it off.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #112 on: July 08, 2016, 05:41:08 am »
Quote from: skeeter on July 07, 2016, 09:43:45 pm
June 28, 1998 here.

Dunno why, but I'm still proud of that.

I understand why you're proud.  Back in The Day, Free Republic was something to be proud of.  And I am one of the originals.  I joined the same day Jim R. created FR as a forum.  Before that, we were posting on kind of a White Water chat room with very few members.  I can remember logging in late at night and saying , 'anybody here?"

Free Republic remained a good forum until 2012.  That was the first time it got out of hand.  I was a supporter of Rick Perry and it got really vicious.  I was banned because I criticized Jim for allowing all the personal insults.  I still think he was wrong to do that. 

I came back at the start of this primary season and, before long, Jim was allowing the most vicious personal attacks against Cruz supporters.  Deja Vue all over again.  Eventually, Jim sold his soul to the trumpers on the forum ... partially because they bribed him with monetary support...

Oh, well.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #113 on: July 08, 2016, 05:47:59 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 07, 2016, 11:22:42 pm
Actually I think Cruz has more to lose by not endorsing Trump...he still needs party support for his reelection to the Senate.

Ted won without the party last time and he can do it again.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #114 on: July 08, 2016, 05:48:53 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 07, 2016, 11:25:52 pm
That's really not surprising or much a stretch.  Cruz will be speaking at a convention nominating Donald Trump.   :shrug:

The convention is not about one person. The convention highlights the party and its values.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #115 on: July 08, 2016, 06:03:21 am »
Quote from: skeeter on July 07, 2016, 09:54:34 pm
Pluck the knuckle dragging cretins.

I noticed there are a few reasonable posters trying steer the place back to normalcy, but the mouth breathers keep dragging them back.

I'd add one more thing about the alleged Trump/Cruz detente - it would also help a great deal if Trump would make a solid, very public, irrevocable promise - with something to make it credible -  to allow Cruz latitude in selecting SCOTUS nominees, or something.

In spite of who or who doesn't speak at the convention many of us still have no affirmative reason to vote for him.

Because no one knows ... even Trump ... what he thinks today or will think tomorrow.  If Trump promises you something, get it in advance ... do not believe it, even if he signs it in front of 100 notaries and 3 Supreme Court justices.

I hope and know that Ted Cruz is way too smart to fall for anything Trump says or promises.  I hope like heck that he doesn't say one kind word about Trump when he speaks at the Convention.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #116 on: July 08, 2016, 06:05:39 am »
Quote from: Right_in_Virginia on July 07, 2016, 11:22:42 pm
Actually I think Cruz has more to lose by not endorsing Trump...he still needs party support for his reelection to the Senate.

Cruz did not have the party's support when he was originally elected and he doesn't need it now.  He will win in a landslide .... unless...if he endorses Trump, that could hurt his chances.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #117 on: July 08, 2016, 06:09:18 am »
Quote from: INVAR on July 08, 2016, 12:11:33 am
Trump needs Cruz to speak after he told him he would not allow him to speak unless he endorsed Trump, because Trump knows he runs the risk of not having enough delegates and that is why he met with the GOP Senators.

It's interesting that the Clueless One finally got a clue.  Or listened to someone.  He did NOT get a good reception from the GOP senators and he has to know that Ted Cruz is infinitely a better and more popular man than he is.

Of course, he doesn't know that... he's Trump ... he's just playing his cards.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #118 on: July 08, 2016, 06:10:33 am »
Quote from: sinkspur on July 08, 2016, 12:28:20 am
Trump got rolled by Cruz.



Great post.  The Convention might be interesting after all.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #119 on: July 08, 2016, 06:13:51 am »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on July 08, 2016, 01:29:31 am
Cruz has been making some strategic mistakes.  I would accept that he is speaking if it were framed that Cruz demanded a spot.  Phrased as a Trump invite makes Cruz look like an endorser whether he is or isn't.  BAD MOVE.  Cruz will never overcome the labeling he has received -- both fair and unfair.  So he should continue to use it to his advantage.  By trying to become Mr. Get-Along now, he can do nothing but lose.  He loses with those who unfairly slandered him and with those who stuck by him who now feel like it was for nothing.  I cannot accept anything but a hostile demand of a speech because the Trump candidacy is so hideous and outrageous that no respectable person should desire to be associated with it.

Sorry, Ted.  That's what I think about it.

I disagree.  Ted did not promise to endorse but held fast.  Trump was the one who surrendered.  And the Convention is about more than Trump...it's an opportunity for a true conservative to make a great speech and dominate the Convention.

You are wrong to think the Convention is just about Trump.  It isn't.  Ted will make it about Conservatism and maybe about Ted Cruz.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2016, 06:17:30 am »
Quote from: RAT Patrol on July 08, 2016, 02:04:12 am
@Bigun

Ditto for me.  I can't stomach watching or even listening to the Trump Sideshow.  I trust Bigun and some others to tell us what we need to know.

I might actually tune into the Clinton/Trump debates, though.  I have a feeling they will be a must see.

You are a real downer tonight.  There will be no Clinton/Trump debates unless we give up and give Trump the nomination.

I don't appreciate your negative stance on Ted Cruz.  If anyone can rescue us from this debacle, it will be him.
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2016, 08:13:35 am »
Quote from: Suppressed on July 08, 2016, 02:05:17 am
June 26 wasn't yesterday. The surprising thing is that Trump waited more than 24 hours to reverse himself.

I honestly at some point...after this has been talked about by the MSM for a couple days...especially if any pundit even hints that Trump talking to Cruz shows a sign of weakness in the Trump campaign...except to see King Presumptive to go off the rails at a campaign stop much like he did the other day over the star and say it wasn't his choice to talk to Ted and blame one of his staffers for giving him bad advice.

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Trump: "No...no...no...listen...look I didn't want to have that meeting in D.C....honestly I didn't want to meet with Ted...still can't believe a word he says.."

Crowd: "Lyin' Ted! Lyin Ted!"

Trump: "Exactly...but I made the mistake of listening to a couple of my staffers and it turned out to be a big mistake because now...now...now you have the dishonest lying awful media saying it shows that I was weak...that the Trump Campaign was weak....and that's just bull...we're strong!"

Crowd: *cheering wildly*

Trump: "So in reality...in reality I did Ted a favor by meeting with him because now people won't forget him after the Convention because I met with him at the GOP Headquarters".
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #122 on: July 08, 2016, 12:39:12 pm »
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Trump: "No...no...no...listen...look I didn't want to have that meeting in D.C....honestly I didn't want to meet with Ted...still can't believe a word he says.."

Crowd: "Lyin' Ted! Lyin Ted!"

Trump: "Exactly...but I made the mistake of listening to a couple of my staffers and it turned out to be a big mistake because now...now...now you have the dishonest lying awful media saying it shows that I was weak...that the Trump Campaign was weak....and that's just bull...we're strong!"

Crowd: *cheering wildly*

Trump: "So in reality...in reality I did Ted a favor by meeting with him because now people won't forget him after the Convention because I met with him at the GOP Headquarters".
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« Reply #123 on: July 08, 2016, 12:42:58 pm »
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Is this a quote from Trump?

Source?
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No that all came from my fertile brain this morning...imagining Trump in a couple weeks going off the rails about the meeting he had yesterday LOL!
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Re: Wah-Hoo!...Ted Cruz to speak at Republican National Convention after all....
« Reply #124 on: July 08, 2016, 12:50:10 pm »
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No that all came from my fertile brain this morning...imagining Trump in a couple weeks going off the rails about the meeting he had yesterday LOL!

Thing is to my mind it was quite plausible, In fact I immediately did  a search for a story.
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