Just an observation

[Silver Pines]

Cat, don't you find it odd that there have been a number of candidates that have been vetted (which should correlate to some interest), that have mysteriously decided to bolt at the last minute?  I think you are right.....    If not dementia, probably some kind of bizarre tyrannical, and /or narcisstic behavior. 

Even a Lodger at Holiday Inn Express can tell that Trump is mentally ill.

Matt Walsh says it looks as though we're down to two options: either Trump is trying to win and he's mentally disabled, or he's not trying because it's all a publicity stunt.

But yeah, you have to wonder if these people saw Trump up close and something made them decide "No way."

Except for those who really want a grab at some power *coughNewtcough*.

[catfish1957]

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Except for those who really want a grab at some power *coughNewtcough*.

Gingrich has a very sordid personal past, that makes Trump look chaste. 

Doesn't seem that long ago, we were the family values party.

[skeeter]

But yeah, you have to wonder if these people saw Trump up close and something made them decide "No way."

I'm wondering why they needed to get up close.

[musiclady]

Gingrich has a very sordid personal past, that makes Trump look chaste. 

Doesn't seem that long ago, we were the family values party.

That ended when Donald J. Trump started running as a "Republican."


Family values, moral issues, Life issues, character issues, all got tossed into the shredder.


And that has ended my life long affiliation with the Republican party.

[musiclady]

I'm wondering why they needed to get up close.

Good question.  It's rather apparent from afar.

[Silver Pines]

Gingrich has a very sordid personal past, that makes Trump look chaste. 

Doesn't seem that long ago, we were the family values party.

Yes, way back when we said that decency and morality mattered in our candidates.

[Silver Pines]

I'm wondering why they needed to get up close.

A fair question, lol.

[East of the Beast]

The responses were as expected.Alhough I didn't know time spent on the forum dictated the validity or lack thereof of a post.This forum is not my first rodeo and I 've expressed the same sentiment in all the other forums I am a member of.I came to this forum to escape the constant Trump love fest on them and I hate the choices I have but they are the choices none the less. My principled mind tells me that if I willfully fail to vote then I dishonor all the war dead and patriots who gave their lives so that I could have the privilege to vote and that I have surrendered to the enemy. I, guess in a way though, choosing not to vote is a priviledge too.The one and only saving grace of Trump is that he is a capalalist and of course Hillary is a soicialist/fascist to the core,that's only determining factor that I have now.........So, I gather most here are all good with President Hillary......carry on.....and shame on me for being a honest poster on a new forum.

[East of the Beast]

 

[Silver Pines]

The responses were as expected.

Then what was the point?

My principled mind tells me that if I willfully fail to vote then I dishonor all the war dead and patriots who gave their lives so that I could have the privilege to vote and that I have surrendered to the enemy.

My father was in the military.  I won't dishonor his memory nor spit on my voting privilege by wasting it on scum like Donald Trump.

I, guess in a way though, choosing not to vote is a priviledge too.The one and only saving grace of Trump is that he is a capalalist and of course Hillary is a soicialist/fascist to the core,that's only determining factor that I have now.........So, I gather most here are all good with President Hillary.....

Trump and Hillary are two lifelong liberals.  If Hillary is a socialist--and she is---I'm not foolish enough to cast a vote for her nor for her good friend and longtime donor, Trump.


So you see, there are more than just two choices. 

[R4 TrumPence]

Hi, Beast,
I am moving this thread to opinions,as it is not political news.

[bolobaby]

I do not disagree with anything you are saying...but we've got to play the hand we are dealt.

Yep - we were born sinners, so we should sin away!

Play the hand we are dealt, indeed. :-P

[Jazzhead]

The responses were as expected.Alhough I didn't know time spent on the forum dictated the validity or lack thereof of a post.This forum is not my first rodeo and I 've expressed the same sentiment in all the other forums I am a member of.I came to this forum to escape the constant Trump love fest on them and I hate the choices I have but they are the choices none the less. My principled mind tells me that if I willfully fail to vote then I dishonor all the war dead and patriots who gave their lives so that I could have the privilege to vote and that I have surrendered to the enemy. I, guess in a way though, choosing not to vote is a priviledge too.The one and only saving grace of Trump is that he is a capalalist and of course Hillary is a soicialist/fascist to the core,that's only determining factor that I have now.........So, I gather most here are all good with President Hillary......carry on.....and shame on me for being a honest poster on a new forum.

EotB - welcome to the Board and I hope you continue to post here.   Whether you're a newbie or a veteran,  you're entitled to speak your mind here.

I appreciate that you're an honest poster facing a difficult decision - but so are we all.   I've voted GOP every since I was 18,  that's over 40 years now, and this is the first time I'll be voting to defeat the Republican.    Believe me,  that's painful, and I know the consequences will be dire.   But it is my honest view that the threat of genuine fascism represented by Trump and his alt-right followers compels me to vote against my political self interest.

Trump's had two months now, since Indiana, to mend fences and unite the party.  He's still bad-mouthing conservatives and wasting opportunities to take on Hillary.  He is a disaster that threatens to destroy conservatism as a responsible political force.   His rhetoric promotes exploitation and division, and his taint is rubbing off on us all.       

[Cyber Liberty]

The responses were as expected.Alhough I didn't know time spent on the forum dictated the validity or lack thereof of a post.This forum is not my first rodeo and I 've expressed the same sentiment in all the other forums I am a member of.I came to this forum to escape the constant Trump love fest on them and I hate the choices I have but they are the choices none the less. My principled mind tells me that if I willfully fail to vote then I dishonor all the war dead and patriots who gave their lives so that I could have the privilege to vote and that I have surrendered to the enemy. I, guess in a way though, choosing not to vote is a priviledge too.The one and only saving grace of Trump is that he is a capalalist and of course Hillary is a soicialist/fascist to the core,that's only determining factor that I have now.........So, I gather most here are all good with President Hillary......carry on.....and shame on me for being a honest poster on a new forum.

I think it was a well thought-out commentary, and appreciated it quite a bit even if I don't agree with all of it.  IOW, a good TBR thread.  Please stick around, it sounds like you were expecting some fire.

[musiclady]

The responses were as expected.Alhough I didn't know time spent on the forum dictated the validity or lack thereof of a post.This forum is not my first rodeo and I 've expressed the same sentiment in all the other forums I am a member of.I came to this forum to escape the constant Trump love fest on them and I hate the choices I have but they are the choices none the less. My principled mind tells me that if I willfully fail to vote then I dishonor all the war dead and patriots who gave their lives so that I could have the privilege to vote and that I have surrendered to the enemy. I, guess in a way though, choosing not to vote is a priviledge too.The one and only saving grace of Trump is that he is a capalalist and of course Hillary is a soicialist/fascist to the core,that's only determining factor that I have now.........So, I gather most here are all good with President Hillary......carry on.....and shame on me for being a honest poster on a new forum.

Since I'm the only one who mentioned "time on the forum" I assume you are directing this response to me.  I did say it bothered me, but I didn't say your post therefore had no validity, so there's not really a need to be quite so defensive.

People who are #NeverTrump are not refusing to vote.  We are going to vote for someone else.

As for "most here are all good with President Hillary,"..... that's hogwash.  NO one on this forum is OK with Hillary.  But the majority are also not OK with a corrupt, lying crony capitalist insider like Trump.

You have made a  number of false assumptions and drawn some very false conclusions.  If your mind is somewhat open, read what others here have to say, and perhaps you will learn not to do so again.

Welcome to TBR.  We THINK here. 

[musiclady]

Yep - we were born sinners, so we should sin away!

Play the hand we are dealt, indeed. :-P

Hmmmm.......... let's think about that.  I was born with a temper, the ability to lie (which I did as a child), and the temptation to steal.

THAT is that hand that "nature" dealt me, so maybe I shouldn't have tried to fix myself, and just kept playing  that hand, eh?   

[Wingnut]

Hmmmm.......... let's think about that.  I was born with a temper, the ability to lie (which I did as a child), and the temptation to steal.

   

You made that up didn't you.

 

[flowers]

The Democrats OTOH will fully support the criminal Hillary

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That statement applies to the Democrat/Media/Wall Street establishment more than it does to everyday people, but overall I agree with your opinion. I will vote for Trump because I believe Hillary and her crew are several magnitudes worse than he could ever be.

A vote for Third Party or not voting are both a vote in favor of Hillary. This is not conjecture or hyperbole, it is a cold hard realistic fact. If there are people here who would rather see Hillary win than Trump, then so be it. But please do not insult the rest of us by pretending that you do not know what you are doing. If you are doing a deliberate action which will result in Hillary getting elected, then directly or indirectly, how ever you want to look at it, you voted for Hillary in one way or another. Not doing a thing is as big a deliberate action as is actually doing something.

With all the dead people, foreigners, and illegals, the Dems will have voting this year, every vote counts more than ever or Hillary WILL be elected. This is not a theory or a game. It is real.

Spot on post!

[musiclady]

You made that up didn't you.

 

Actually, no.

(I'd have you ask my parents, but they're both gone.  Would my older brothers do?  ^-^ )

[Wingnut]

Actually, no.

(I'd have you ask my parents, but they're both gone.  Would my older brothers do?  ^-^ )

Nah, Older brothers always protect their little sisters!     

[East of the Beast]

Then what was the point? That I might be surprised


My father was in the military.  I won't dishonor his memory nor spit on my voting privilege by wasting it on scum like Donald Trump......That is your call I see it differently


Trump and Hillary are two lifelong liberals.  If Hillary is a socialist--and she is---I'm not foolish enough to cast a vote for her nor for her good friend and longtime donor, Trump....again, a no vote gives it to her anyway and your noble stand will only make your misery somewhat palpable.


So you see, there are more than just two choices. no there's not....whether you choose to particpate or not is the 2 choices

[flowers]

The Republican Party is dead for all intents and purposes.We haven't been a unified party since 2004.We eat our own at every turn.The Democrats OTOH will fully support the criminal Hillary, and in my estimation will give her the WH.Although I despise Trump,I'm having trouble seeing him as bad as Hillary and Bill and another 8 years of Socialist policies put into place.

While we are talking a convention coupe,that duplicitous bitch is measuring for draperies in the Oval Office.The thought of that should sicken you to the bone.

I think standing on principal is a noble thing but cutting your nose off to spite your face is a whole other selfish matter.

I'm a Cruz supporter through and through and I know he will continue to be a great influence for the conservative cause in whatever capacity he serves.

Again I implore you NeverHillary is far better than never Trump.....I know there are many here that disagree with what I'm saying but when you see the Whore of Babylon being sworn in this January just remember a divided Republican house put her there.

As always if you agree or disagree........Flame On!

Agreed.

[SZonian]

I'm trying to find SZonian's [Galt's] Gulch...because either way, I believe the American people lose. 

It's Congress and the USSC that are screwing us.  The impact/agenda of the President could be blunted or even halted if those worthless pieces of excrement would do their jobs. 

I may be off the hook completely in voting for President this election, as in past elections.  I'm in CA...don't know that it can get much worse than that.

So...if anyone knows of an unoccupied gulch somewhere, I'm interested.

[Cyber Liberty]

Nah, Older brothers always protect their little sisters!     

Not brothers who got the snot spanked out of them because of sister's lies.   

[SZonian]

Not brothers who got the snot spanked out of them because of sister's lies.   

You too huh?