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Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within ReachBy
Reid J. Epstein
July 6, 2016 5:05 p.m. ET
Months after Donald Trump appeared to seal the Republican nomination for president, anti-Trump forces still have one last chance to force a vote on the party’s convention floor that would throw open the GOP contest again.

It’s a long shot, but by some counts they are remarkably close to getting past the first hurdle next week in Cleveland.

Mr. Trump’s intraparty foes, led by a group of rogue delegates, are waging an intense behind-the-scenes effort to push the Republican National Convention’s Rules Committee for a vote on freeing delegates to back whom they wish, rather than being bound to Mr. Trump.

The presumptive nominee’s team is fighting back just as vehemently, with an organized campaign of dozens of aides and volunteers. It’s a power struggle that has prompted threats of reprisals and left many Republicans anxious that it could hurt the party’s prospects in November.

The anti-Trump camp needs the backing of 28, or one-quarter, of the 112 Convention Rules Committee members, in order to place the issue before the full convention. A Wall Street Journal survey suggests it could be close.

In interviews, 20 members said they are willing to consider allowing delegates to be unbound, while 59 support Mr. Trump. The other 33 panelists couldn’t be reached or did not respond to repeated messages.

Others counting votes have their own tallies. Internal surveys of the Rules Committee conducted by RNC member Randy Evans of Georgia, who is whipping votes trying to help Mr. Trump fend off the insurrection, found at least 18 committee members open to voting to unbind. The Trump campaign’s count shows about 15 leaning toward the so-called conscience clause, according to people familiar with the campaign.

Kendal Unruh, a Colorado schoolteacher on the committee leading part of the anti-Trump movement, said she has private commitments from more than 30 committee members, but that many aren’t willing to admit so publicly.

All involved in counting votes say those numbers fluctuate on a day-to-day basis. If the provision gets the necessary committee votes when the panel meets beginning next Wednesday, it would place the issue before the full convention, where it would need 1,237 votes—half the delegates—to pass.

Though a majority of the convention delegates are bound to support Mr. Trump, Mr. Evans’s count shows just about 890 delegates are personally loyal to the New Yorker. Another 680 oppose Mr. Trump. That leaves 900 delegates who are presumed to be “in play,” he said. The stop-Trump forces would have to take nearly two-thirds of them to block his nomination.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/anti-donald-trump-forces-see-convention-coup-as-within-reach-1467839099
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Re: Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 09:23:29 pm »
Political said they have 6 not 20. Even if they had 28 they will be shut down and escorted out.  This is gaslighting by the cheap labor crowd.
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 09:26:07 pm »
Political said they have 6 not 20. Even if they had 28 they will be shut down and escorted out.  This is gaslighting by the cheap labor crowd.

Escorted out by Trump's Orange Shirts???
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2016, 09:27:01 pm »
Escorted out by Trump's Orange Shirts.
Perhaps. We will not let the Fringe destroy the party thru stupidity.
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2016, 09:28:50 pm »
Perhaps. We will not let the Fringe destroy the party thru stupidity.

The fringe is responsible for Roman P. Trump to begin with.
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Re: Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2016, 09:30:40 pm »
Perhaps. We will not let the Fringe destroy the party thru stupidity.

However, if such a coup were successful you would join with whomever the nominee turned out to be because defeating Hillary is of primary importance.

Right?

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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2016, 09:32:37 pm »
Perhaps. We will not let the Fringe destroy the party thru stupidity.
I thought you trumpeters wanted nothing more than to tear the party up?  That's all I've been hearing for months.  How curious.
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Re: Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2016, 09:32:59 pm »

I'll repeat what I posted previously on another thread:
  • Kyle Cheney at Politico is Manafort's mouthpiece
  • Manafort's army is like Sadam's Republican Guard
This article's quote from the Rules Committee member --- he's a pro-Trump committee member.

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« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2016, 09:34:52 pm »
However, if such a coup were successful you would join with whomever the nominee turned out to be because defeating Hillary is of primary importance.

Right?
No I would prepare for the coming civil war since there would be no GOP party after such a stupid act.
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Re: Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2016, 09:36:55 pm »
I'll repeat what I posted previously on another thread:
  • Kyle Cheney at Politico is Manafort's mouthpiece
  • Manafort's army is like Sadam's Republican Guard
This article's quote from the Rules Committee member --- he's a pro-Trump committee member.

Manafort is a freaking consigliere for the Russian mob. Everywhere you look around Trump is corruption.
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Re: Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2016, 09:39:21 pm »
No I would prepare for the coming civil war since there would be no GOP party after such a stupid act.

So you really don't care about the country, you care about the candidate and there's absolutely no difference between you and the #nevertrump folks.

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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2016, 09:41:52 pm »
So you really don't care about the country, you care about the candidate and there's absolutely no difference between you and the #nevertrump folks.
Don't flip your situation onto me. You are the ones causing the problem here. Knowing with no doubt the results will not give you Cruz and will cause Hillary to be elected President while destroying the party in the process. You are not the good guys here.
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Re: Anti-Donald Trump Forces See Convention Coup as Within Reach
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2016, 09:55:09 pm »
So you really don't care about the country, you care about the candidate and there's absolutely no difference between you and the #nevertrump folks.

de facto Hillary supporter.  He'll be in good company with us who weren't going to vote for Trump in the first place. ;)

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« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2016, 09:57:38 pm »
de facto Hillary supporter.  He'll be in good company with us who weren't going to vote for Trump in the first place. ;)

Its a classic case of projection. If by some chance his guy isn't nominated he'd rather burn the whole thing down, just as he accuses others of wanting.

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« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2016, 10:26:47 pm »
Its a classic case of projection. If by some chance his guy isn't nominated he'd rather burn the whole thing down, just as he accuses others of wanting.
Simple fact, we are not the ones doing anything here. Trump won the Primary and the Delegates necessary  to win. You did not even come close. So this is nothing but a theft attempt to install Bush or another Rino.

And the fact good Americans are angry at dumb thieves is not us causing the problem.

In real world its you doing the projection. We are defenders. We are the good guys fighting Hillary.
Trump is for America First.
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« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2016, 10:30:34 pm »
Simple fact, we are not the ones doing anything here. Trump won the Primary and the Delegates necessary  to win. You did not even come close. So this is nothing but a theft attempt to install Bush or another Rino.

And the fact good Americans are angry at dumb thieves is not us causing the problem.

In real world its you doing the projection. We are defenders. We are the good guys fighting Hillary.

You are a fringe voter who voted for a fringe candidate in a crowded field. Time to be honest with yourself about yourself.
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« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2016, 10:34:44 pm »
You are a fringe voter who voted for a fringe candidate in a crowded field. Time to be honest with yourself about yourself.
You are going to be so shocked at the convention at just how few of you there are left.
Trump is for America First.
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« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2016, 10:38:57 pm »
You are going to be so shocked at the convention at just how few of you there are left.

Hey fringe boy. You do realize that there is an election after the convention, don't you?
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« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2016, 10:40:55 pm »
Political said they have 6 not 20. Even if they had 28 they will be shut down and escorted out.  This is gaslighting by the cheap labor crowd.

Where are you getting that, poodle?  Nobody's going to be escorted out of anything.
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« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2016, 10:57:54 pm »
Hey fringe boy. You do realize that there is an election after the convention, don't you?
Yep, and its going to be great. By November the few remaining Republicans Against Trump will be in a foaming rage rocking back and forth in a corner yelling at their stuffed Animals "it could have been Cruz...."
Trump is for America First.
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« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2016, 11:01:36 pm »
Yep, and its going to be great. By November the few remaining Republicans Against Trump will be in a foaming rage rocking back and forth in a corner yelling at their stuffed Animals "it could have been Cruz...."

Are you listening to this abortion of a speech Trump is giving?  It's the worst one he's given so far.  Defending himself against the star controversy and his remarks about Hussein.

You're supporting a nutcase, poodle.
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« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2016, 11:06:31 pm »
Yep, and its going to be great. By November the few remaining Republicans Against Trump will be in a foaming rage rocking back and forth in a corner yelling at their stuffed Animals
That's really mature talk there.

If anything, we'll probably be whacked or lynched as Trump's brownshirts have already been suggesting.
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« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2016, 11:12:46 pm »
Yep, and its going to be great. By November the few remaining Republicans Against Trump will be in a foaming rage rocking back and forth in a corner yelling at their stuffed Animals "it could have been Cruz...."

They will still be here for sure. I'll be back in about four months to check up on things.  The wailing and gnashing of teeth from the Hillarino movement promises to be good.

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2016, 11:45:54 pm »
Are you listening to this abortion of a speech Trump is giving?  It's the worst one he's given so far.  Defending himself against the star controversy and his remarks about Hussein.

You're supporting a nutcase, poodle.
Yeah i am, he gave a good speech, the audience loved it and the online numbers were great. You admitted on the one yesterday you did not understand a lot of what he was saying so how can you say what he said was bad.

This is how he wins. He connects with the base, He connects with the people upset with government corruption and tyranny.

The First debate will sky rocket him into the lead and it will stay like that thru November. 
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"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

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« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2016, 02:30:38 pm »
Yep, and its going to be great. By November the few remaining Republicans Against Trump will be in a foaming rage rocking back and forth in a corner yelling at their stuffed Animals "it could have been Cruz...."

This is your problem. You hate your primary opponent and his supporters far more than you could ever hate the democrats.

And when Trump is defeated your hate for us will only grow.