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The Army Corps of Engineers has begun taking steps to reduce the thick, putrid algae that is fouling up Florida shorelines just as the summer is kicking off in earnest with the Fourth of July holiday.

The Corps said that they would start reducing the amount of water flowing from Lake Okeechobee into two estuaries as of Friday. The commander of the Jacksonville, Fla. district of the Corps, Col. Jason Kirk,  said that the move came after seeing the slime up close.

“Our water managers have dealt with such large quantities of rain and runoff entering the lake that it would cover the entire state of Delaware in two feet of water,” Kirk said in a statement on Thursday. “However, after visiting with local elected officials in Martin County yesterday and viewing the algae first hand, we felt compelled to take action, even though we need to remain vigilant in managing the level of Lake Okeechobee.” 

John Campbell, a spokesman for the Army Corps of Engineers in Florida, told FoxNews.com that they had “implemented the new plan.”

That plan involves lowering the average flow from the lake, so that over the next seven days the flow is lower, on average, that it’s been in the past month.

“We don’t know that it’s going to solve it,” he said, but added that they were hopeful that the reduced amount of freshwater flowing out will allow saltwater from the ocean to help clear out the algae-filled areas. At the same time, the Corps wants to make sure that a dike holding back the lake doesn’t have too much water pressure on it.

On Wednesday, Fla. governor Rick Scott declared a state of emergency in two counties, a move that will allow authorities to better manage the flow of water in and out of the lake. On Thursday, he added two more counties, Lee and Palm Beach Counties, to the scope of the emergency. 

These steps by officials are in response to the "guacamole-thick" muck that is fouling a stretch of beaches promoted as Florida's "Treasure Coast," where lawmakers and residents blame the federal government, saying the algae crisis is fueled by freshwater flows controlled by Army officials to protect an erosion-prone dike.

The blue-green algae is the latest contaminant featured in yearslong arguments over water flowing from Lake Okeechobee, which is critical to South Florida's water supply and flood control systems.

http://www.foxnews.com/science/2016/07/01/army-corps-engineers-battles-guacamole-thick-florida-algae.html?intcmp=hplnws

I am wondering why this is a job for the federal government.  How does this affect other states?

From article, it appears the problems may be caused by the feds in the first place.
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #1 on: July 02, 2016, 05:39:46 pm »
I am wondering why this is a job for the federal government.  How does this affect other states?

From article, it appears the problems may be caused by the feds in the first place.

The most frightening words- I'm from the government and I'm here to help. I agree this should appear to be an issue for Florida rather than the National Government.
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2016, 06:08:12 pm »
It's a flood defense causing the problems. Those are considered part of national defense and it's why the Army Corps of Engineers deals with it. Same as with the New Orleans dikes.
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2016, 06:23:00 pm »
It's an incredible thing to witness.

Massive barges filled with gigantic tortilla chips floating down the intracoastal toward Ft. Lauderdale beach.

Water tower-size margaritas can't be far behind.
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2016, 06:29:57 pm »
It's an incredible thing to witness.

Massive barges filled with gigantic tortilla chips floating down the intracoastal toward Ft. Lauderdale beach.

Water tower-size margaritas can't be far behind.

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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #5 on: July 02, 2016, 06:31:09 pm »
I am wondering why this is a job for the federal government.  How does this affect other states?
The fed has authority over navigable waters, rightly or wrongly.
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2016, 06:39:41 pm »
Too bad there is not some way to scoop that stuff up, dry it and sell it for fertilizer.  Gotta be some really rich stuff...

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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #7 on: July 02, 2016, 09:35:23 pm »
The fed has authority over navigable waters, rightly or wrongly.

Seems to be wrongly, if those navigable waters are within a state.
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #8 on: July 02, 2016, 09:53:58 pm »
Seems to be wrongly, if those navigable waters are within a state.

Gibbons v. Ogden, SCOTUS 1824
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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #9 on: July 02, 2016, 10:09:19 pm »
Gibbons v. Ogden, SCOTUS 1824

The Constitution seems to indicate the states are sovereign

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Re: Army Corps of Engineers battles 'guacamole-thick' Florida algae
« Reply #10 on: July 03, 2016, 11:23:57 am »
The Constitution seems to indicate the states are sovereign

If you read the Gibbons case history, you will find that New York (and other States) were granting exclusive navigation privileges to all waters within the jurisdiction of the State to specific companies. Daniel Webster argued that the Constitution granted the power to regulate commerce to the Federal government (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3) so sovereignty over routes of commerce such as navigable waters belonged to the Federal government, and that to argue otherwise would result in confusing and contradictory local regulatory policies.   

Since the Federal government has jurisdiction over navigable waters, they also own the responsibility to maintain and develop them.
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