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Offline Mechanicos

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #125 on: July 03, 2016, 04:23:16 pm »
Actually, they do.  Because the best chance Hillary Clinton could ever have of winning is to have Donald Trump as the GOP nominee.
Not only do you have no legitimate evidence to back up this claim (Liberal created polls are for the gullible herd), but the prediction record of the anti-Trumps is 100 percent wrong every time. The best chance of Hillary winning is people like you who wrongly believe and spread such crazy talk. 
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« Reply #126 on: July 03, 2016, 04:30:06 pm »
Oh please. Nobody is so myopic and unknowing of the Primary process they will only vote for one person regardless. Usually its at least 2 choices with one slightly better then the other one or 2 allowing for the uncertain outcome of a primary. 

Its just not believable. What would you have done if say for example Cruz had died in a plane crash early in the primary? Stay home and let the Democrats win?
Cute...now answer the question.  You didn't want to let bygones be bygones...so answer the question
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #127 on: July 03, 2016, 04:35:06 pm »
Not only do you have no legitimate evidence to back up this claim (Liberal created polls are for the gullible herd), but the prediction record of the anti-Trumps is 100 percent wrong every time. The best chance of Hillary winning is people like you who wrongly believe and spread such crazy talk.

It's not crazy talk.  I live in the Upstate of South Carolina and I know a lot of conservatives and only a very small percentage like Trump.

BTW, I got a letter from the Trump campaign asking for a donation.  I wrote at the top of the form: "You want me to donate money to a billionaire?  Get the F@#& outta heah!"  If you're going to brag about being super rich, self funded and not owned then walk the walk.

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #128 on: July 03, 2016, 04:51:39 pm »

But my keystrokes do not fuel a movement that is helping Hillary Clinton win. 

Your own prince said he did not need us.  You people keep insisting the never Trump movement is dying and Trump is gaining.

How do our keystrokes help Hildabeast if you have already declared victory and those of us who are never voting for your prince are irrelevant????

But that said -

You people declared us enemies.  Called us traitors.  Your Trump Militant compatriots are calling for our deaths for treason.  Your celebrities are declaring that we are either for them or against them.

So we are against you and we will do everything in our power to ensure Trump's defeat by voting for actual Conservatives instead of Fascist NY liberals.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #129 on: July 03, 2016, 05:35:30 pm »
It's not crazy talk.  I live in the Upstate of South Carolina and I know a lot of conservatives and only a very small percentage like Trump.

BTW, I got a letter from the Trump campaign asking for a donation.  I wrote at the top of the form: "You want me to donate money to a billionaire?  Get the F@#& outta heah!"  If you're going to brag about being super rich, self funded and not owned then walk the walk.
Simple fact, you cannot be as many as you think or you would have won.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #130 on: July 03, 2016, 05:38:33 pm »
You state...."we will do everything in our power 'to ensure Trump's defeat' by voting for actual Conservatives instead of Fascist NY liberals.".......

????..... How does voting for someone other than Trump or Hillary insure either's defeat when in fact it IS Hillary and Trump at the top of both tickets????

If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to hear it, does it make a sound?







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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #131 on: July 03, 2016, 05:44:59 pm »
Simple fact, you cannot be as many as you think or you would have won.
@Mechanicos
Simple fact, you still won't answer the question asked above.   I think it's safe to assume that we can all safely ignore anything you say from here on out as you have no answers.  Instead you merely flail about, with your delicate sensibilities offended that not everyone sees the glory of your cult and it's orange hued leader.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #132 on: July 03, 2016, 05:54:58 pm »
You state...."we will do everything in our power 'to ensure Trump's defeat' by voting for actual Conservatives instead of Fascist NY liberals.".......

????..... How does voting for someone other than Trump or Hillary insure either's defeat when in fact it IS Hillary and Trump at the top of both tickets????


This sElection is already lost in terms of having anyone in office that respects the Constitution and individual liberty.  We have a Marxist Communist and a liberal Fascist on the top of both tickets.  We're not voting for either of them.

Because we're denying Trump all the Conservative Christian votes he said he did not want nor need to "win", unless Trump can yank enough Bernie supporters to his banner, Trump will be trounced - deservedly so.

If we must have an enemy at the head of government, we want someone we can clearly oppose, and in whom we have absolutely no responsibility in selecting.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #133 on: July 03, 2016, 05:59:08 pm »
@Mechanicos
Simple fact, you still won't answer the question asked above.   I think it's safe to assume that we can all safely ignore anything you say from here on out as you have no answers.  Instead you merely flail about, with your delicate sensibilities offended that not everyone sees the glory of your cult and it's orange hued leader.
The @Mechanicos  will not work for me because I will not install messenger on any of my machines for security purposes. This is the first time I have seen your response.

As far as this late to the game repeat question I have answered on other threads I will attempt to redo what you missed.
He Opposed the BLM in Nevada, He saved the NYC Veterans day parade, He has always been about since at least the 80s America first for Trade. He has been against the EPA for very long time. etc. There is more but the fact you did not know any of this shows you lacked material information here.

 On other threads I have posted multiple links to this repeat question based on a dishonest meme created by bad people. 

Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #134 on: July 03, 2016, 06:01:38 pm »
Cruz was my back-up. 3rd choice, in fact, in joint place with Rubio.  :shrug: I prefer Governors - always have. It's not the hot seat, but it's a sight closer than the rest.

Yes, I realize that some, perhaps even most, had people they liked 1st, 2nd, 3rd.  But I did not.  I doubt I'm the only person in the whole US that did not.  To throw around the broad generalities and think they apply to everyone is nonsense.

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #135 on: July 03, 2016, 06:02:05 pm »
BTW, I got a letter from the Trump campaign asking for a donation.  I wrote at the top of the form: "You want me to donate money to a billionaire?  Get the F@#& outta heah!"  If you're going to brag about being super rich, self funded and not owned then walk the walk.

This is why the GOPe is backing Trump now just as they backed Romney four years ago.  After the Democrat's 2008 financial windfall, they went after candidates who were wealthy enough to compete.  With Trump as the nominee, they figured they could kick back and relax instead of working their butts off raising money.  Little did they know that Trump lied about funding his own campaign.  At this stage of the game, they will not be able to recover.

As for Trump's wealth, it is a non-issue for me.  If Trump showed any evidence of Conservatism at all, then I would have no problem giving him a campaign donation.  However, I will not fund anyone who considers big-government to be the solution rather than the problem.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #136 on: July 03, 2016, 06:06:15 pm »
The @Mechanicos  will not work for me because I will not install messenger on any of my machines for security purposes. This is the first time I have seen your response.

As far as this late to the game repeat question I have answered on other threads I will attempt to redo what you missed.
He Opposed the BLM in Nevada, He saved the NYC Veterans day parade, He has always been about since at least the 80s America first for Trade. He has been against the EPA for very long time. etc. There is more but the fact you did not know any of this shows you lacked material information here.

 On other threads I have posted multiple links to this repeat question based on a dishonest meme created by bad people.

See at the top, where it says Profile?

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Hover over the button Profile Info. A menu pops up.

Bottom item is Mentions. Click it.

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #137 on: July 03, 2016, 06:09:56 pm »
Simple fact, you cannot be as many as you think or you would have won.

Then why troll Never Trump posts and argue ad infinitum over every single syllable that needs to be redefined and re-explained to massage the imbecility of your candidates words and actions?

If we are not as many as you insist - why illustrate the fear you have that your prince is going to get trounced?  Why the constant haranguing that our keyboards will get Hildabeast elected if you are so cocksure that your political savior is going to have no problem sweeping the sElection in November?

No, the truth is that you know for a fact that your prince is in deep trouble and you need every single vote you can intimidate, threaten, shame and squeeze out of former Republicans to get him into the office of Savior you people so desperately want.  That is why you troll this board and engage in spouting absurdities and gross imbecility to either apologize for your prince or attack principled Conservatives.

It's you people who elected Hillary already, supporting the absolutely worst candidate ever in a NYC liberal "populist-nationalist" who destroyed Conservatism from having any voice in this sElection and whom continues to attack Conservatives who will not kiss his ring.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #138 on: July 03, 2016, 06:13:17 pm »
The @Mechanicos  will not work for me because I will not install messenger on any of my machines for security purposes. This is the first time I have seen your response.

As far as this late to the game repeat question I have answered on other threads I will attempt to redo what you missed.
He Opposed the BLM in Nevada, He saved the NYC Veterans day parade, He has always been about since at least the 80s America first for Trade. He has been against the EPA for very long time. etc. There is more but the fact you did not know any of this shows you lacked material information here.

 On other threads I have posted multiple links to this repeat question based on a dishonest meme created by bad people.

@Axeslinger

There does appear to be some evidence that Trump has for about 2 years "worked" to oppose Cuomo's gun legislation by speaking at a rally after the legislation was passed.  Trump's claims about the NYC Veteran's Day parade are not as fantastic as what really happened, according to the organizer.  The organizer acknowledges Trump saved the parade, but Trump gave 1/3 of the money that he claims and did not lead the parade as he claims he did.

I opposed the BLM in Nevada and have opposed the EPA for years also.  :/  I have seen no evidence of Trump actively opposing either of them.

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #139 on: July 03, 2016, 06:17:23 pm »
See at the top, where it says Profile?

Click it.

Hover over the button Profile Info. A menu pops up.

Bottom item is Mentions. Click it.

All your mentions are there. No Messenger involved. Just the forum software and your browser.
Found that, it still does not work.
Said 7 pages showed the first one the when clicking on the 2 it went back to the original profile screen, a loop where if I click it again back on the first page. So Its there but not navigable to any new stuff. 

« Last Edit: July 03, 2016, 06:32:18 pm by EC »
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #140 on: July 03, 2016, 06:18:24 pm »
Um...yeah...I've never seen the meme you reference.   I've been asking that question for months (at TOS) for my own satisfaction...so continuing to spout that the great boogeyman is out to harm His Orangeness, isn't really getting you anywhere.   

So thanks for playing, but nope, fail.


Your answer presupposes that only a conservative supports veterans.   That is demonstrably false.   If it weren't we would be beating the democrats over the head with it, but we're not.  So strike one.

Regrading being for America first trade...while this is laudable, upon what basis does he support this?   I asked you for sincerely held conservative beliefs.   Seems quite likely that he has this stance because it may benefit him in his business ventures rather than out of conviction.   

And I'd be willing to bet that his opposition to the EPA is founded in the same mindset.

His opposition to the BLM in NV....what a surprise that a casino owner might be opposed to govt overreach in Nev.

Show me some adherence to conservative small government PRINCIPLES where he has had nothing to gain, or where he actually fought the good fight, standing up for a principle.  Show me where, rather than donating tens of 1000's of dollars to democrats (because he had to in order to do business!), he used his money to fight that system to ensure that no one else would get ensnared in it.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #141 on: July 03, 2016, 06:32:43 pm »
Found that, it still does not work.
Said 7 pages showed the first one the when clicking on the 2 it went back to the original profile screen, a loop where if I click it again back on the first page. So Its there but not navigable to any new stuff.

Odd. Same is happening to mine now. I've reported it - let the brains sort it out.   :tongue2:

Last mention in is at the top of page one though, so you can see the last few, at least.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #142 on: July 03, 2016, 06:36:59 pm »
Um...yeah...I've never seen the meme you reference.   I've been asking that question for months (at TOS) for my own satisfaction...so continuing to spout that the great boogeyman is out to harm His Orangeness, isn't really getting you anywhere.   

So thanks for playing, but nope, fail.


Your answer presupposes that only a conservative supports veterans.   That is demonstrably false.   If it weren't we would be beating the democrats over the head with it, but we're not.  So strike one.

Regrading being for America first trade...while this is laudable, upon what basis does he support this?   I asked you for sincerely held conservative beliefs.   Seems quite likely that he has this stance because it may benefit him in his business ventures rather than out of conviction.   

And I'd be willing to bet that his opposition to the EPA is founded in the same mindset.

His opposition to the BLM in NV....what a surprise that a casino owner might be opposed to govt overreach in Nev.

Show me some adherence to conservative small government PRINCIPLES where he has had nothing to gain, or where he actually fought the good fight, standing up for a principle.  Show me where, rather than donating tens of 1000's of dollars to democrats (because he had to in order to do business!), he used his money to fight that system to ensure that no one else would get ensnared in it.
So willful blindness. ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEPs17_AkTI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzjiW4U4V9g
http://dennismichaellynch.com/must-see-donald-trumps-position-on-the-blm/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmHwLaOloh4
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/anti-gun-control-rally-albany-brings-trump-article-1.1742627
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/01/flashback-trump-saved-ny-veterans-day-parade/
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/donald-trump-quietly-helped-marine-whom-obama-ignored/
http://www.thepoliticalinsider.com/married-couple-helped-trump-after-his-limo-broke-down-what-he-did-next-is-amazing/
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/05/16/9-11-first-responder-helped-donald-trump-hes-humanitarian-reaches-donates/

many many more but the search engines will not be helpful for finding them as they will put up anti-Trump articles unless you know exactly what to type in - so I do not fault you for not knowing.



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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #144 on: July 03, 2016, 06:46:59 pm »
Mechanicos has become the Leni Riefenstahl of the Trump campaign.

I fully expect "Triumph of the Wallet" to be a soon-coming film and mandatory viewing for all subjects of Trump's empire.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #145 on: July 03, 2016, 07:07:01 pm »
Mechanicos has become the Leni Riefenstahl of the Trump campaign.

I fully expect "Triumph of the Wallet" to be a soon-coming film and mandatory viewing for all subjects of Trump's empire.

"Leni Riefenstahl" is a blatant Nazi reference, and posters were directed by this site's owners to stop doing that.

Maybe at the place that you got kicked off from, they did make such references against other members, but we have not done so here, as a matter of policy and civil discussion and behavior.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #147 on: July 03, 2016, 07:08:11 pm »
Ok mechanicos...ill try one more time and I'll try to use small words:  what has he DONE that shows sincerely held CONSERVATIVE beliefs PRIOR to his run for office.. 

And as I hadn't seen the 27min long video, in the interest of being informed, I just watched most of that one.  I'm sorry but bloviating about how we all will make more money does not a conservative belief make.   Fully 3/4s of what you sent are since he announced his run. 

Come on man, the fool is 70 years old and has more money than God.   Where is his Soros (scum that he is) level of involvement and activism? Where is anything other doing things for his own enrichment and aggrandizement?
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #148 on: July 03, 2016, 07:10:39 pm »
"Leni Riefenstahl" is a blatant Nazi reference, and posters were directed by this site's owners to stop doing that.

Maybe at the place that you got kicked off from, they did make such references against other members, but we have not done so here, as a matter of policy and civil discussion and behavior.
You prefer Baghdad Bob?   Same holds true.  That wasn't an overt nazi reference, at least I don't think.  It was a reference to an unapologetic propagandist.
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Re: LET'S SEE.... WHAT ARE MY CHOICES.?
« Reply #149 on: July 03, 2016, 07:14:33 pm »
Ok mechanicos...ill try one more time and I'll try to use small words:  what has he DONE that shows sincerely held CONSERVATIVE beliefs PRIOR to his run for office.. 

And as I hadn't seen the 27min long video, in the interest of being informed, I just watched most of that one.  I'm sorry but bloviating about how we all will make more money does not a conservative belief make.   Fully 3/4s of what you sent are since he announced his run. 

Come on man, the fool is 70 years old and has more money than God.   Where is his Soros (scum that he is) level of involvement and activism? Where is anything other doing things for his own enrichment and aggrandizement?
His love for America. Nothing is more conservative then that. No conservative principles exist with no America. See what you call conservatism has nothing to stand on and will not exist if we continue on the path we are on. The Fact is Purists are not rational. With Trump we get better judges at minimum, borders and stop or at least slow down of the Obama fundimental change of America.

What exactly do you hope to conserve by your actions helping the Democrats defeat our only real option to stop Obama's plan to fundamentally change America  for four more years?
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17