RNC Rules Fight Begins With Plan to Lock In Donald Trump

[Mechanicos]

RNC Rules Fight Begins With Plan to Lock In Donald Trump

The fight over rules that could upend the Republican National Convention officially began in earnest Thursday, as delegates began circulating the first proposed rule for this year's convention in Cleveland.


 A draft rule, obtained by MSNBC, would effectively lock-in Donald Trump as the GOP nominee and kill the "Stop Trump" movement once and for all.

Anti-Trump forces have talked up rules that could let delegates vote against Trump, regardless of the primary results. But the new rule would stop any and all of those efforts with a silver bullet — freezing the 2012 rules so that no alternatives go into effect this year.

The proposal states "any amendments" to the party rules will not "take effect" until after this year's convention ends.

If the proposal passes, it guarantees that if amendments designed to stop Trump, such as a "conscience clause" that would function as a delegate escape hatch, are also passed, those would only go into effect at "the 2020 National Convention."

[More]

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rnc-rules-fight-begins-plan-lock-donald-trump-n601801

[Mechanicos]

14 million Voters have spoken!

[HonestJohn]

14 million Voters have spoken!

And 16 million Voters have spoken against your 14 million.

[EC]

And 160 million voters didn't give a shit either way. Stupid argument to attempt to use.

[ABX]

14 million Voters have spoken!

And up to 12 million of those were democrats.

http://www.redstate.com/diary/creinstein/2016/06/25/12-million-democrats-voted-republican-primaries/

[Mechanicos]

And 16 million Voters have spoken against your 14 million.

Not true, you lose credibility pushing that dishonest statement. Just because a person voted for somebody else out of 17 people is not a vote against the eventual winner. By your argument every body else had much more votes against them so its a fail point.

[Mechanicos]

And up to 12 million of those were democrats.

http://www.redstate.com/diary/creinstein/2016/06/25/12-million-democrats-voted-republican-primaries/

Outside of forums like this and liberal ones RedState carries no weight.

[RoosGirl]

Not true, you lose credibility pushing that dishonest statement. Just because a person voted for somebody else out of 17 people is not a vote against the eventual winner. By your argument every body else had much more votes against them so its a fail point.

You finally admit that a vote for someone besides Trump is not an automatic vote for Hillary.  We're making progress I think.

[Mechanicos]

You finally admit that a vote for someone besides Trump is not an automatic vote for Hillary.  We're making progress I think.

In context that is a wrong statement. During the Primary it was 17 people all on the same side. Now that Trump has won the primary its Only Trump vs Clinton. So yes a vote now against Trump can only be a vote that helps Hillary.

[Right_in_Virginia]

And 16 million Voters have spoken against your 14 million.

If 16 million had voted for one candidate, then it would matter.

As it stands, the majority winner is Donald J. Trump with 14,000,000 votes.

It's that simple.

[INVAR]

If 16 million had voted for one candidate, then it would matter.

As it stands, the majority winner is Donald J. Trump with 14,000,000 votes.

It's that simple.

Wrong.  Trump has a plurality, not a majority.

Your prince will get thoroughly cremated in November by Hillary, all the signs are there.

[INVAR]

So yes a vote now against Trump can only be a vote that helps Hillary.

What do you plan to do about it? 

Threaten us some more?

Join your Militant comrades calling for our execution for treason?

Demand we be 'banned' from whatever it is your prince says we must be banned from because we will not kiss his ring?

You're shilling for a tyrant, and we will do everything in our power to oppose your prince.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Wrong.  Trump has a plurality, not a majority.

Your prince will get thoroughly cremated in November by Hillary, all the signs are there.

Nah ...  you're hyperbole isn't working any more.

But, nice try.   

[INVAR]

Nah ...  you're hyperbole isn't working any more.

So what part of that statement is an exaggeration or a claim that I did not intend anyone to take literally??

That Trump did not win a Majority, but a Plurality?

Or that he gets cremated in November because all the signs are present?

[WAC]

14 million Voters have spoken!

Interesting as it would lock down the shenanigans as I read it....but to get it passed??? Remains to be seen....

[RoosGirl]

In context that is a wrong statement. During the Primary it was 17 people all on the same side. Now that Trump has won the primary its Only Trump vs Clinton. So yes a vote now against Trump can only be a vote that helps Hillary.

No, dear. You cannot have it both ways.

[geronl]

Those evil fiends want to change the rules to save Trump.

The Trump side are the ones who said changing the rules was wrong, remember.

[ILeanConserv]

RNC Rules Fight Begins With Plan to Lock In Donald Trump

The fight over rules that could upend the Republican National Convention officially began in earnest Thursday, as delegates began circulating the first proposed rule for this year's convention in Cleveland.


 A draft rule, obtained by MSNBC, would effectively lock-in Donald Trump as the GOP nominee and kill the "Stop Trump" movement once and for all.

Anti-Trump forces have talked up rules that could let delegates vote against Trump, regardless of the primary results. But the new rule would stop any and all of those efforts with a silver bullet — freezing the 2012 rules so that no alternatives go into effect this year.

The proposal states "any amendments" to the party rules will not "take effect" until after this year's convention ends.

If the proposal passes, it guarantees that if amendments designed to stop Trump, such as a "conscience clause" that would function as a delegate escape hatch, are also passed, those would only go into effect at "the 2020 National Convention."

[More]

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/rnc-rules-fight-begins-plan-lock-donald-trump-n601801

I was so hoping for a reasonable replacement at the convention. 

[geronl]

The delegates should simply bolt after it starts and meet up elsewhere.

[Mechanicos]

The delegates should simply bolt after it starts and meet up elsewhere.

There are not enough fringe delegates to make a difference. Beside the alternates are ready to take their place.

[Gov Bean Counter]

The delegates should simply bolt after it starts and meet up elsewhere.

To many have probably already been visited by a couple of Manafort's Ukrainian "friends".