Never Trump is never happening at the RNC

[mystery-ak]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/never-trump-is-never-happening-at-the-rnc-224999

 Never Trump is never happening at the RNC

The delegates looking to dump Trump are badly outnumbered on a key rules committee.

By Kyle Cheney

07/01/16 05:02 AM EDT

Anti-Trump activists plotting a coup at the national convention in Cleveland this month more likely face a drubbing of their own.


Any attempt to block Trump would begin in the convention's rules committee, an 112-member panel of delegates where Trump’s enemies had hoped to make a stand against the presumptive nominee. Through dozens of interviews and a review of public statements, however, POLITICO has determined that at least 72 members of the panel intend to smooth Trump's path to the nomination — not hinder it.

Just six members say they'll work against Trump, and of those six, two said they'd bail on the effort if they don't find sufficient support. "If this has a shot, and if this continues to develop ... I will support the freeing of the delegates," said one of the committee members.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/never-trump-is-never-happening-at-the-rnc-224999#ixzz4D9mEzfK9

[Cripplecreek]

They talk about #NeverTrump the same way they talked about the tea party. Constantly predicting its demise again and again.

#NeverTrump isn't people who will just decide to vote for Trump because he's the nominee. #NeverTrump is people who will never vote for Trump EVER.

[Mechanicos]

They talk about #NeverTrump the same way they talked about the tea party. Constantly predicting its demise again and again.

#NeverTrump isn't people who will just decide to vote for Trump because he's the nominee. #NeverTrump is people who will never vote for Trump EVER.

The problem #neverTrump has here is the Fact that it is in large part Tea Party and Former Cruz supporters standing up to it. #nevertrump was never a Conservative operation - it was created and funded by Liberals and Establishment. Its is still run at the top by Liberals and Establishment types with backing from the Democrat Party. You want to get on the Tea party Side back the guy who has the best chance of stopping Hillary.

[bolobaby]

It doesn't matter. If he doesn't get dumped at the convention, he'll get dumped in the general election.

So, great job insisting on nominating a loser at the convention.

[jmyrlefuller]

Reminder: the rules committee's rules have to be approved by the delegation at large.

If the Trump delegates try to ramrod things into the rules, and knowing Trump's approach they probably will, the delegation can reject the rules and make them go back and try again until they acquiesce (and remembering Cruz's stand against Obamacare in the budget showdown, that's a distinct possibility).

[jmyrlefuller]

I'll also note that Politico published this same story, a couple of days ago, with different wording. All focused on a stacked Rules Committee, as if that's the only way Trump could be stopped. No. Any effort to stop Trump will come from the whole.

[Cripplecreek]

It doesn't matter. If he doesn't get dumped at the convention, he'll get dumped in the general election.

Period.

[Jazzhead]

It doesn't matter. If he doesn't get dumped at the convention, he'll get dumped in the general election.

So, great job insisting on nominating a loser at the convention.

It matters a great deal.  Nominate Trump and Hillary is the next President.  Reject Trump at the convention and we have a fighting chance to avoid that terrible outcome.

If you're #NeverHillary, you must be #NeverTrump.   

[thatcher]

I'll also note that Politico published this same story, a couple of days ago, with different wording. All focused on a stacked Rules Committee, as if that's the only way Trump could be stopped. No. Any effort to stop Trump will come from the whole.

Kyle Cheney is Manafort's mouthpiece. Manafort's convention army is like Sadams's Republican Guard.  The NeverTrump delegates are alive and well.

[Mechanicos]

Reminder: the rules committee's rules have to be approved by the delegation at large.

If the Trump delegates try to ramrod things into the rules, and knowing Trump's approach they probably will, the delegation can reject the rules and make them go back and try again until they acquiesce (and remembering Cruz's stand against Obamacare in the budget showdown, that's a distinct possibility).

Point of order. Cruz people put a lot of effort, more then other ops, to stack the Rules Committee with Loyal Cruz people who would control the outcome of the convention rules.  Per this Artical there are about 6 out of 112 who are willing to challenge Trump. Logically, That ratio @.5 percent is also likely going to be similar in the main body of delegates.

As another article stated its not Just Trump people fighting the Democrat-funded Dump Trump effort, its also former Cruz people. Bottom line, #nevertrump is not a big as you think it is.

[Silver Pines]

The problem #neverTrump has here is the Fact that it is in large part Tea Party and Former Cruz supporters standing up to it. #nevertrump was never a Conservative operation - it was created and funded by Liberals and Establishment. Its is still run at the top by Liberals and Establishment types with backing from the Democrat Party. You want to get on the Tea party Side back the guy who has the best chance of stopping Hillary.

You might want to believe that very badly, but it's the polar opposite of reality.  Conservatives are refusing to support Hillary's good friend, defender, and donor because they understand there's no difference between the two.

Trump might very well end up with the nomination.  Personally, I don't care, because there's no way on earth this house will ever support him.

[skeeter]

http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/never-trump-is-never-happening-at-the-rnc-224999

 Never Trump is never happening at the RNC

The delegates looking to dump Trump are badly outnumbered on a key rules committee.

By Kyle Cheney

07/01/16 05:02 AM EDT

Anti-Trump activists plotting a coup at the national convention in Cleveland this month more likely face a drubbing of their own.


Any attempt to block Trump would begin in the convention's rules committee, an 112-member panel of delegates where Trump’s enemies had hoped to make a stand against the presumptive nominee. Through dozens of interviews and a review of public statements, however, POLITICO has determined that at least 72 members of the panel intend to smooth Trump's path to the nomination — not hinder it.

Just six members say they'll work against Trump, and of those six, two said they'd bail on the effort if they don't find sufficient support. "If this has a shot, and if this continues to develop ... I will support the freeing of the delegates," said one of the committee members.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/never-trump-is-never-happening-at-the-rnc-224999#ixzz4D9mEzfK9

Giving the movement to name another candidate - Nevertrump - is a mistake, IMO. It smacks of emotionalism,  motivates Trump supporters and gives them a boogeyman to shoot at.

If Trump manages to convince me that he's not batsh*t nuts and that he'd be an iota better for America than Hillary then I'll probably vote for him. But as things stand now, that looks pretty unlikely.

And I have no problem with the RNC aligning itself with Trump - they can go down the commode with him. If thats where he goes. A twofer.

Maybe people will have learned their lesson and we can try again in 2020.

[Mechanicos]

You might want to believe that very badly, but it's the polar opposite of reality.  Conservatives are refusing to support Hillary's good friend, defender, and donor because they understand there's no difference between the two.

Trump might very well end up with the nomination.  Personally, I don't care, because there's no way on earth this house will ever support him.

#neverTrump started here:
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/gop-tech-leaders-hold-secret-meeting-stop-trump-171532249.html?ref=gs

Its Current leadership in addition to the RINOS in the RNC is people like Bill Kristol and Hillary team www.republicansagaisnttrump.com

Same Liberals are still funding #neverTrump republicans
http://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-hosts-fundraiser-for-paul-ryan-2016-6

Follow the money. #neverTrump was never a conservative operation. It only uses some of them not aware of who is controlling them.

[Silver Pines]

#neverTrump started here:
https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/news/gop-tech-leaders-hold-secret-meeting-stop-trump-171532249.html?ref=gs

Its Current leadership in addition to the RINOS in the RNC is people like Bill Kristol and Hillary team www.republicansagaisnttrump.com

Same Liberals are still funding #neverTrump republicans
http://www.businessinsider.com/tim-cook-hosts-fundraiser-for-paul-ryan-2016-6

Follow the money. #neverTrump was never a conservative operation. It only uses some of them not aware of who is controlling them.

Yet even with their issues, Kristol and Ryan are not as liberal as Hillary's good friend, defender, and donor, Donald Trump.

That's why, if you check out social media and what real people are saying, you'll find plenty of conservatives who refuse to vote for the con-man.   

[Cripplecreek]

You might want to believe that very badly, but it's the polar opposite of reality.  Conservatives are refusing to support Hillary's good friend, defender, and donor because they understand there's no difference between the two.

People who vote for Trump are betraying conservatism, the constitution and America. That's why I know that claims that most former Cruz supporters are backing Trump is an outright lie. I'm not counting people at Free Republic who supported Ted Cruz when it was popular to do so because FR is dominated with a adolescent herd mentality more common among middle school children. I'm talking about people who read beyond headlines and have actually researched the candidates and settled on Cruz. True Ted Cruz supporters would never ever betray conservatism, the constitution or America.

About once per month a new wave  of "former cruz supporters" will flood my twitter timeline claiming to have seen the light and made a conversion to worshiping the Cheeto Messiah.  As always, 99% of them are new twitter accounts with no history of supporting Ted Cruz and they almost all rant about whatever new conspiracy theory Trump or Alex Jones is pimping at the minute. Its all Alinsky tactics wielded by  social and cultural degenerates.

My favorites are the "Peggys" who clearly don't have a firm grasp of the english language.



'Ello, dis Peggy. You vote Tromp?

[geronl]

it won't matter.

#NeverTrump is being proved correct by the day with the Chump

[Mechanicos]

Yet even with their issues, Kristol and Ryan are not as liberal as Hillary's good friend, defender, and donor, Donald Trump.

That's why, if you check out social media and what real people are saying, you'll find plenty of conservatives who refuse to vote for the con-man.

Keep telling yourself that while we will focus on saving America.

[geronl]

Trump only wants to build bridges to Bernie supporters, he apparently has an extreme hatred for conservatives

[Silver Pines]

My favorites are the "Peggys" who clearly don't have a firm grasp of the english language.

'Ello, dis Peggy. You vote Tromp?

LOL

Yes, I never consider FR as any kind of example; most of them are so invested in the site that they'll say anything to go along with the herd and to get an occasional headpat from Jim.  That's why, even now, I wonder how many of them are faking their Trumplove in order to avoid the zot and to feel included in the clique.

I've seen no sign of Cruz supporters coming over to Trump.  It's either wishful thinking or naive belief in a fake rumor.

[Silver Pines]

Keep telling yourself that while we will focus on saving America.

1) America can't be saved or "made great' by a single personality.

2) Least of all by a lifelong liberal friend, defender, and donor of Hillary Clinton.

[geronl]

I've seen no sign of Cruz supporters coming over to Trump.  It's either wishful thinking or naive belief in a fake rumor.

They have shown nothing but hatred to actual conservatives, they save their entreaties for Bernie supporters.

[Silver Pines]

They have shown nothing but hatred to actual conservatives, they save their entreaties for Bernie supporters.

That's a fact.  They told us all along Trump didn't need our support, and it was reiterated by the man himself.  So the Trump Train can barrel on up to 1600 Pennsylvania on its own.  It's unstoppable, or so I've heard.

[Cripplecreek]

That's a fact.  They told us all along Trump didn't need our support, and it was reiterated by the man himself.  So the Trump Train can barrel on up to 1600 Pennsylvania on its own.  It's unstoppable, or so I've heard.

From where I sit, the Trump train looks a lot like this.

[Hoodat]

Keep telling yourself that while we will focus on saving America.

Big government liberalism won't save America, yet it is all Trump offers.

[Silver Pines]

From where I sit, the Trump train looks a lot like this.

That's the reality of it....on fire and headed off the rails.