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After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof

by ARI MELBER and ALEXANDRA JAFFE

When Donald Trump said last Thursday he was forgiving over $45 million in personal loans he made to his campaign, the announcement drew plenty of coverage. Many even reported Trump's statement as if the deal was done.

But it's not.

A week later, NBC News has learned the FEC has posted no record of Trump converting his loans to donations. The Trump Campaign has also declined requests to share the legal paperwork required to execute the transaction, though they suggest it has been submitted.

Last week, campaign spokesperson Hope Hicks said Trump was submitting formal paperwork forgiving the loan on Thursday, according to the Wall Street Journal.

Reached by NBC this week, she said the paperwork "will be filed with the next regularly scheduled FEC report," and declined to provide any documentation.

The delay could matter, because until Trump formally forgives the loans, he maintains the legal option to use new donations to reimburse himself. (He can do so until August, under federal law.)


In his most recent FEC filing, which posted June 20, Trump treated all his spending on the campaign as loans.

An FEC staff member tells NBC News there is no new filing changing Trump's loans. The FEC's candidate tracking page, which posts filings, does not show new paperwork from Trump changing his loans.

Even the remote possibility that Trump could tap new donations to pay himself fed skepticism among GOP donors, who wanted assurances that money intended for the election would not end up in Trump's own pockets.

The Trump Campaign has struggled to pivot to fundraising after the primaries, posting only $1.2 million cash on hand. Trump's loan announcement also comes as political fundraising experts have questioned whether he has taken to exaggerating his online fundraising, with claims that his first foray into email fundraising broke every record ever.

There is nothing new about a candidate loaning money to his own campaign, and Trump has long argued that his personal wealth makes more independent than most politicians, even if he raises money in the general election.

Ultimately, if Trump declines to release any proof for claiming he forgave the loans, the rubber will hit the road on July 20, the next FEC filing deadline.


"It would be disclosed on the campaign's next FEC report," says Michael Toner, former FEC Chairman.

That disclosure is pretty simple. The FEC requires the candidate file a signed a statement, and note the change in the accounting in the monthly report.

For Trump, that would mean re-categorizing the $45.7 million in loans from his most recent report, plus any more of his spending, as candidate donations. Mitt Romney made a similar revision when forgiving some of his loans in 2011.

It's perfectly legal for Trump to make the change in his next monthly filing, instead of using the stand-alone statement his campaign asserted he was filing last week.

Given Trump's repeated insistence that this is a done deal, it is not clear why his campaign won't release the paperwork yet.

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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2016, 12:55:37 pm »
This never ends, does it?

Never, EVER believe anything Trump says.  Demand proof.
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2016, 01:04:09 pm »
How many people will be fooled by this and think they can donate to the campaign without enriching Trump personally.

Everything is a scam to this guy.

By the way, the idiotic Trump psyco-phants were calling this loan forgiveness "Trumps gift to America"... lol

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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2016, 01:04:47 pm »
This never ends, does it?

Never, EVER believe anything Trump says.  Demand proof.
So, someone help me out here. I'm no accountant, and I didn't stay at that Holiday Inn....

If Trump loans money to his campaign, and forgives the loan, does he get to write that off as a bad debt? (as opposed to a political donation which might not be deductible)?

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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2016, 01:08:18 pm »
Some people think they can demand and Trump should just Jump. Its good hes telling the media to go to hell. They are not good people and are very dishonest.
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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2016, 01:10:07 pm »
...and we won't know the truth until the next FEC filing date which is after the convention. How convenient.

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2016, 01:20:06 pm »
I'm still waiting for him to release his tax returns.
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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2016, 01:30:56 pm »
Some people think they can demand and Trump should just Jump.....

You better believe he should jump. He is applying for a job, not petitioning to be a dictator. Just like any job application, if you make a claim, you have to be ready to back it up.. If you claim you are a vet, you should be ready to pull out your dd214 and state your MOS. If you claim you saved your last company a billion dollars, you better have a recommendation letter from your last boss or a a reference check should show that. If you claim you earned a degree in truthiness from Trump University, by darn, you better be able to show that degree and it should come up in your background check.

He is applying for a job so yes, he does have to back up any claims he makes. Especially those that are of a legal and/or financial consequence.

"What difference does it make" or "I'll get back to you" are Hillary responses.

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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2016, 01:36:19 pm »
You better believe he should jump. He is applying for a job, not petitioning to be a dictator. Just like any job application, if you make a claim, you have to be ready to back it up.. If you claim you are a vet, you should be ready to pull out your dd214 and state your MOS. If you claim you saved your last company a billion dollars, you better have a recommendation letter from your last boss or a a reference check should show that. If you claim you earned a degree in truthiness from Trump University, by darn, you better be able to show that degree and it should come up in your background check.

He is applying for a job so yes, he does have to back up any claims he makes. Especially those that are of a legal and/or financial consequence.

"What difference does it make" or "I'll get back to you" are Hillary responses.
I like he thumbs his nose at the dishonest media. They can wait till he files his FEC forms he owes them nothing nor is it an issue that matters one bit. Its a distraction by the left trying to change the subject from the Islamic Terrorism and economic problems.
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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2016, 01:47:59 pm »
I like he thumbs his nose at the dishonest media. They can wait till he files his FEC forms he owes them nothing nor is it an issue that matters one bit. Its a distraction by the left trying to change the subject from the Islamic Terrorism and economic problems.

It's not the media.  It's the voting public, who are still trying to decide if they can trust Trump. 

Couple this with the non-release of his tax returns, and those voters think he's hiding something.  And he is.

Every time he does something like this, Trump makes the election about him.  And that's a loser, for sure.
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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2016, 02:32:20 pm »
"What difference does it make" or "I'll get back to you" are Hillary responses.

Trump's lack of accountability stinks of 'Democrat'.
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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2016, 07:00:04 am »
I like he thumbs his nose at the dishonest media. They can wait till he files his FEC forms he owes them nothing nor is it an issue that matters one bit. Its a distraction by the left trying to change the subject from the Islamic Terrorism and economic problems.

Well, he's not done anything to convince me to stop actively campaigning against him.
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Re: After Saying He Forgave Loans to Campaign, Trump Won't Release Proof
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2016, 09:43:23 am »
Just like those mythical tax returns.  I wonder what sort of fraud or corruption he's hiding.