Trump rips GOP rivals who broke pledge; Kasich touts electability

[HonestJohn]

By Jeremy Diamond and Cassie Spodak, CNN
Updated 7:13 PM ET, Wed June 29, 2016

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/john-kasich-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

(CNN)Donald Trump on Wednesday said his former Republican primary rivals who have refused to support him in November should be barred from running for public office again.

"They signed a pledge saying they will abide, saying they will back the candidate of the party," Trump said during a campaign appearance in Bangor, Maine, adding, "They broke their word. In my opinion, they should never be allowed to run for public office again because what they did is disgraceful."

Trump didn't mention any Republican candidates by name. But some of his significant primary challengers, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Gov. John Kasich -- who on Wednesday released a letter on his campaign fundraising list highlighting a positive poll for him -- have yet to endorse Trump despite saying during the primary they would back the GOP nominee.

Trump called Republicans who wouldn't back the pledge "sore losers."

Trump has struggled to unite Republican officials behind his campaign since clinching the party's nomination in early May and his frustrations with the slow pace of that unity have boiled over in recent weeks.

Despite talking up the need for party unity, Trump earlier this month criticized fellow Republicans and threatened to go it alone and campaign into the general election "by myself."

(more at link)

[geronl]

Trump sounds more like a liberal SJW every day

[Gov Bean Counter]

By Jeremy Diamond and Cassie Spodak, CNN
Updated 7:13 PM ET, Wed June 29, 2016

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/29/politics/john-kasich-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/

(CNN)Donald Trump on Wednesday said his former Republican primary rivals who have refused to support him in November should be barred from running for public office again.

"They signed a pledge saying they will abide, saying they will back the candidate of the party," Trump said during a campaign appearance in Bangor, Maine, adding, "They broke their word. In my opinion, they should never be allowed to run for public office again because what they did is disgraceful."

Trump didn't mention any Republican candidates by name. But some of his significant primary challengers, including Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Ohio Gov. John Kasich -- who on Wednesday released a letter on his campaign fundraising list highlighting a positive poll for him -- have yet to endorse Trump despite saying during the primary they would back the GOP nominee.

Trump called Republicans who wouldn't back the pledge "sore losers."

Trump has struggled to unite Republican officials behind his campaign since clinching the party's nomination in early May and his frustrations with the slow pace of that unity have boiled over in recent weeks.

Despite talking up the need for party unity, Trump earlier this month criticized fellow Republicans and threatened to go it alone and campaign into the general election "by myself."

(more at link)

Reasonable man standard says that a candidate should not be bound if the winner engages in attempts to personally and professionally destroy the losing candidate.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Reasonable man standard says that a candidate should not be bound if the winner engages in attempts to personally and professionally destroy the losing candidate. 

How was the losing candidate personally "destroyed"?  Is his marriage intact?  Has he lost custody of his children? Have friends (if applicable) shunned him?   Is he bankrupt? 

How was the losing candidate professionally "destroyed"?  Are his professional licenses intact? Has he lost income?  Has his job been lost?  Has he lost eligibility for reelection?   


There was no destruction.  The pledge stands .... and honor requires they keep it.

[Gov Bean Counter]

How was the losing candidate personally "destroyed"?  Is his marriage intact?  Has he lost custody of his children? Have friends (if applicable) shunned him?   Is he bankrupt? 

How was the losing candidate professionally "destroyed"?  Are his professional licenses intact? Has he lost income?  Has his job been lost?  Has he lost eligibility for reelection?   

The pledge stands .... and honor requires they keep it.

Honor?
You have no idea what that term means.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Honor?  You have no idea what that term means.

Yes, I do. 

It is Cruz and Kasich who do not.   

[sinkspur]

How was the losing candidate personally "destroyed"?  Is his marriage intact?  Has he lost custody of his children? Have friends (if applicable) shunned him?   Is he bankrupt? 

How was the losing candidate professionally "destroyed"?  Are his professional licenses intact? Has he lost income?  Has his job been lost?  Has he lost eligibility for reelection?   


There was no destruction.  The pledge stands .... and honor requires they keep it.

Trump has warped your judgement. And your sense of morality.

You trash my wife, implicate my father in the death of a president, and I'm supposed to support you?

What kind of perverted thinking is that?

[Mesaclone]

You gotta love those who claim to be "real" conservatives, but don't believe a man should honor his given word. Rich.

If you make a pledge....binding your word...you keep it. This is why pledges and a man's word should never be given lightly or without tremendous foresight. In the case of the GOP candidates in question, either they gave their word lightly...a clear sign of weak character...or they simply are not men of their workd...again, a sign of weak character.

There is no grey here. You give your word, you keep it...and you don't give it unless you are 100% certain that you've committed yourself to a correct action.

That is what a real conservative does...he/she keeps their word, and commits to a pledge only after giving grave consideration. Liberals...their pledges are situational, and they will break their oaths and pledges by blaming others or changing circumstances. Their word means nothing...and a couple of these candidates have proven that they are not conservatives by how they have handled honoring their own word.

[Gov Bean Counter]

Loving the ignore feature tonight!

[Mesaclone]

Honor?
You have no idea what that term means.

The person advocating for a breaking a pledge...dishonoring a man's given word...accuse someone else of not knowing what honor means. Brilliant.

[Gov Bean Counter]

You too!

[Mesaclone]

Loving the ignore feature tonight!

Of course, it allows you to hide from your own cognitive dissonance. Very courageous of you.

[sinkspur]

You gotta love those who claim to be "real" conservatives, but don't believe a man should honor his given word. Rich.

If you make a pledge....binding your word...you keep it. This is why pledges and a man's word should never be given lightly or without tremendous foresight. In the case of the GOP candidates in question, either they gave their word lightly...a clear sign of weak character...or they simply are not men of their workd...again, a sign of weak character.

There is no grey here. You give your word, you keep it...and you don't give it unless you are 100% certain that you've committed yourself to a correct action.

That is what a real conservative does...he/she keeps their word, and commits to a pledge only after giving grave consideration. Liberals...their pledges are situational, and they will break their oaths and pledges by blaming others or changing circumstances. Their word means nothing...and a couple of these candidates have proven that they are not conservatives by how they have handled honoring their own word.

Your thinking is perverted too.  Keeping one's word assumes that the object of keeping that word is honorable and decent.

Trump's racism, his misogyny, his attacks on Cruz's wife and father, were anything but honorable. 

The man is a cancer, and no respectable human being has anything to do with a malignancy.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Trump has warped your judgement. And your sense of morality.

You trash my wife, implicate my father in the death of a president, and I'm supposed to support you?

What kind of perverted thinking is that?

Cruz and Kasich went into this primary season with their eyes open. Cruz and Kasich are no worse off than they were before the primary season ... so the "reasonable person standard" does not apply.

And unfortunately for them, a pledge is not null and void because someone's feelings are hurt or because their attacks did not resonate with the voters.

The pledge is valid.  Now both men--one way or the other--will prove how important honor is to them.   

[geronl]

Yes, I do. 

It is TRUMP who does not.   

his first break as President might be another trip to Epstein's Island

[RetBobbyMI]

 

[HonestJohn]

No one wants to comment on how Herr Drumpf wants to ban people from running for office solely for the fact they don't support him?

[Mechanicos]

Your thinking is perverted too.  Keeping one's word assumes that the object of keeping that word is honorable and decent.

Trump's racism, his misogyny, his attacks on Cruz's wife and father, were anything but honorable. 

The man is a cancer, and no respectable human being has anything to do with a malignancy.

Honor is personal its not dependent on others. You have confused Face with Honor. Honor involving ones word must be kept. Especially if its in writing, or the man has no honor. 

[Right_in_Virginia]

Honor is personal its not dependent on others. You have confused Face with Honor. Honor involving ones word must be kept. Especially if its in writing, or the man has no honor.

Well said!   

[sinkspur]

Cruz and Kasich went into this primary season with their eyes open. Cruz and Kasich are no worse off than they were before the primary season ... so the "reasonable person standard" does not apply.

And unfortunately for them, a pledge is not null and void because someone's feelings are hurt or because their attacks did not resonate with the voters.

The pledge is valid.  Now both men--one way or the other--will prove how important honor is to them.   

The unspoken truth that no one dare speak is that Trump would NEVER have kept his pledge to support the GOP nominee.  You will protest, of course, but Trump is not a man of his word in any sense.

Two dumped wives will attest to that.

If he'll lie to his wives, he'll lie to you.

[Right_in_Virginia]

trumps entire life is built on breaking his word. he preaches it in his books.....

I don't agree with your summation @cuky, but what has it to do with anything---other than to deflect from Cruz and Kasich exhibiting zero honor in this instance?   

[Right_in_Virginia]

The unspoken truth that no one dare speak is that Trump would NEVER have kept his pledge to support the GOP nominee. 

Sink, your statement is speculation.  And because Trump won, your speculation is moot.

[Mesaclone]

trumps entire life is built on breaking his word. he preaches it in his books.....Hire a contractor for a certain amount of money and when they finish tell them you will only pay 75%.
Your argument sounds like.. ...cognitive dissonance

We're discussing the oath given by all candidates to support the eventual nominee. As Trump has not broken this pledge, your comments have no relevance to this issue.

Cruz and Kasich gave their word...pledged their support. They are either men of honor who keep their word, or they are not...the answer to that is dependent only on themselves.

[INVAR]

"Honor"????  Oh that's rich coming from the Trump Militant when your prince himself continued to threaten almost daily that he was going to bolt from both the party and his pledge because he felt the party was "not being nice to me".

What your prince is demanding is obeisance to him.  That honor and pledge is to him, now that he is the king presumptive after weeks and months of Trump threatening to bolt the party and his own pledge.

Hypocrites.

[skeeter]

There goes ol' Lyin Donnie again, lying his fanny off as usual.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/29/politics/donald-trump-ted-cruz-nominee-pledge/index.html