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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #50 on: June 28, 2016, 01:30:43 am »
You forgot Palin...
There's also that Stephen Miller guy...
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #51 on: June 28, 2016, 02:56:13 am »
Things are not looking good for Trump. He appears to be behind in every poll and losing by double digits in a few. And that's with national events basically going in his favor. And an awful candidate like Hillary.
It appears the Republican Party is irrevocably split. If the patrons of TOS are any example, they hate conservative Pubbies as well as old style moderates. Cruz is universally reviled on FR. I can't think of one other big name Pubbie  they like. I would assume there are millions of Pubbies like them who have eschewed conservatism for Trumpism.
So how is it going to be possible to for the new populist/nationalist-minded Pubbies to reconcile with conservative Pubbies? I just can't see it happening.
Trump screwed the future of the Republican Party as a conservative vehicle but good. What comes next, I don't know.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #52 on: June 28, 2016, 03:03:05 am »
Mia Love, the charismatic Utah rep seen by many as the GOP’s future, is skipping Cleveland for a trip to Israel. "I don't see any upsides to it," Love told a reporter on Friday. "I don't see how this benefits the state."

How does a congressional junket to Israel benefit the state?
Disassociating yourself from Toxic Trump is a benefit for a politician in Utah.  Trump's going to drag down the whole party.  It's smart not to be seen anywhere near this very bizarre orange roué.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #53 on: June 28, 2016, 03:28:13 am »
Mia Love, the charismatic Utah rep seen by many as the GOP’s future, is skipping Cleveland for a trip to Israel. "I don't see any upsides to it," Love told a reporter on Friday. "I don't see how this benefits the state."

How does a congressional junket to Israel benefit the state?

Israel, to use a poetic phrase, makes the desert bloom. Utah may not be a desert, but water is not exactly common, either. Makes sense for a pol to see and learn how another state overcomes those limitations, so they can promote and push the same ideas back home.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #54 on: June 28, 2016, 03:50:09 am »
Trump screwed the future of the Republican Party as a conservative vehicle but good. What comes next, I don't know.

It might have been best if they'd have let him do his petulant "I'll run as an independent" thing.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #55 on: June 28, 2016, 03:55:26 am »
Pat Buchanan,  Ben Carson, Newt Gingrich,  Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity,  Mike Tyson, maybe Putin.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #56 on: June 28, 2016, 12:18:09 pm »
Caitlyn Jenner, some Playboy bunnies, Triumph he insult dog...

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #57 on: June 28, 2016, 12:40:54 pm »
"We are witnessing history here -  Germany, 1934"


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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #58 on: June 28, 2016, 08:05:38 pm »
The GOP, on the generic ballot poll, is about to lose major party status...

I'm afraid you're right my friend.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #59 on: June 28, 2016, 08:24:48 pm »
You forgot Palin...

Ahh yes the woman who is fighting to stay relevant. 

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #60 on: June 28, 2016, 11:44:10 pm »
Ahh yes the woman who is fighting to stay relevant.

And losing, for longer than she can remember.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2016, 12:01:39 am »
Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention

POLITICO reached out to more than 50 prominent Republicans. Few said they plan to attend the convention in Cleveland, let alone speak.

By ALEX ISENSTADT 06/27/16 05:10 AM EDT





Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/hardly-anybody-wants-to-speak-at-trumps-convention-224815#ixzz4CmuLhfK0
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Trump doesn't need anyone else to speak or do anything else for that matter, how many of us have been told by the priests and priestesses of the Trump religion that he doesn't need us, or anyone that does not worship at his altar to win because he is the great and all knowing all powerful OZ........er sorry, Trump.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #62 on: June 29, 2016, 12:46:39 am »
Pat Buchanan,  Ben Carson, Newt Gingrich,  Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity,  Mike Tyson, maybe Putin.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #63 on: June 29, 2016, 12:57:20 am »
Trump doesn't need anyone else to speak or do anything else for that matter, how many of us have been told by the priests and priestesses of the Trump religion that he doesn't need us, or anyone that does not worship at his altar to win because he is the great and all knowing all powerful OZ........er sorry, Trump.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #64 on: June 29, 2016, 01:49:14 am »
Of course they don't want to join Trump. He isn't one of them.  :tongue2:


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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2016, 04:00:22 am »
Trump doesn't need anyone else to speak or do anything else for that matter, how many of us have been told by the priests and priestesses of the Trump religion that he doesn't need us, or anyone that does not worship at his altar to win because he is the great and all knowing all powerful OZ........er sorry, Trump.
So if Trump doesn't need anyone else, I guess that means he will get a half dozen votes from his family and maybe a half dozen from his looney followers. Now that ought to win an election.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #66 on: June 29, 2016, 04:24:39 am »
Of course they don't want to join Trump. He isn't one of them.  :tongue2:

Politicians are opportunists first looking for self promotion. They'll pretty much jump at any chance to get their face on national TV much less give a speech. When they all get "busy" and aren't available, there's a message there even the blindest ideologue can't ignore. Its a bit like being at a remote watering hole and all the wildlife suddenly vanishes. Ignore the signs at your own peril.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #67 on: June 29, 2016, 07:47:13 am »
It appears the Republican Party is irrevocably split.

Yes, but the truth is that is has been for awhile.  The Establishment has made it plain that they wanted to rid the party of Christian Conservatives and TEA Party types.  Mitch McConnell even went so far as to say that we needed to be "punched in the nose" and made to sit down and shut up.  Rules have been adopted to make any kind of 'takeover' by Conservative freshman, an impossibility, while the party welcomed in a gift in the shape of a giant horse's ass from the Clintons that is summarily bringing down what was left of any possible opposition to Her Thighness.  Giving the Ruling Class what it actually wanted in the first place, but not enough to win a general election ever again.

It is not lost on Conservatives that the party not only left us, but loathes us and holds us in contempt while they consider the Democrat Left 'colleagues'.  They handed Obama a dictatorship and passed nearly his entire agenda and did nothing to stop his unConstitutional dictates and overreaches.  They are now part and parcel of the lawless regime that rules us.

There is no possible reconciliation with a party that hates your core and holds you in the kind of contempt that the GOP Establishment does.


If the patrons of TOS are any example, they hate conservative Pubbies as well as old style moderates. Cruz is universally reviled on FR. I can't think of one other big name Pubbie  they like. I would assume there are millions of Pubbies like them who have eschewed conservatism for Trumpism.

I've even read some of their most vocal militants ridiculing any reference to the Constitution itself, espousing the virtues of Trumpism instead as being "what is needed to save the republic".  An absurdity on it's face.

So how is it going to be possible to for the new populist/nationalist-minded Pubbies to reconcile with conservative Pubbies? I just can't see it happening.

No, it's never going to happen because they have declared us traitors and enemies and it is apparent we no longer stand on any common ground whatsoever.

Trump screwed the future of the Republican Party as a conservative vehicle but good. What comes next, I don't know.

We suffered a velvet coup in 2012, and no one wanted to believe it.  Most still refuse to see it.  What comes next is what happens when all totalitarian dictatorships have co-opted or eliminated their political opposition and have complete control of society.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #68 on: June 29, 2016, 08:02:50 am »
We truly need to build a real conservative party. Let the GOP die.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #69 on: June 29, 2016, 11:04:29 am »
We truly need to build a real conservative party. Let the GOP die.

You know...if I think about it, I faintly recall someone....in fact quite a few someones saying exactly that 8 years ago and come to think of it, every day since. Thank God no one listened to us. Why, we would not be in this mess if they had. But of course, they "Knew Better".

Proving once again the unprincipled really know nothing at all.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #70 on: June 29, 2016, 11:16:19 am »
Mia Love, the charismatic Utah rep seen by many as the GOP’s future, is skipping Cleveland for a trip to Israel. "I don't see any upsides to it," Love told a reporter on Friday. "I don't see how this benefits the state."

How does a congressional junket to Israel benefit the state?

It gives a ready alibi for her not attending the convention, thereby she steers clear of the doomed liner Trumptanic.  Her state benefits by her not being defeated in November as a result of being seen in the same 300,000-sq ft venue as Trump.
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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
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« Reply #72 on: June 29, 2016, 12:38:31 pm »
We truly need to build a real conservative party. Let the GOP die.

A conservative migration to the U.S. Constitution Party might be the best way to accomplish that.  It already has an ID, an infrastructure and a conservative platform. All it needs is better organization and a much larger rank and file.

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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #73 on: June 29, 2016, 01:36:57 pm »
Pat Buchanan,  Ben Carson, Newt Gingrich,  Sarah Palin, Sean Hannity,  Mike Tyson, maybe Putin.

Mike Tyson is at least Trump's equivalent for linguistic eloquence.


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Re: Hardly anybody wants to speak at Trump's convention
« Reply #74 on: June 29, 2016, 01:54:28 pm »
Mike Tyson is at least Trump's equivalent for linguistic eloquence.

Wasn't Tyson a convicted rapist?  Another moral compass for the Trump team.  /s
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