Unconventional #28: How this Colorado history teacher and 400 of her fellow delegates are planning to block Trump in Cleveland

[mlizzy]

He his pro Life ...

Donald Trump is not really pro-life. First of all, he cares not for the rape/incest babies; they can die through abortion, their mothers damaged for a lifetime.

Also he has complimented Planned Parenthood by saying they do some wonderful things other than non-rape/incest abortions. Would you accept someone telling you the Nazi Regime did some wonderful things? It's crazy! Abortion has destroyed this great nation, and I don't see how Trump can help put it back together again with his wobbly stances.

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[Mechanicos]

I wasn't referring to you personally, but since you brought it up, here's a thread started by you of a Trump rally, posted in Breaking News, with the first word in all-caps:  http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3411020/posts

Thats the Title from the Source.

Here's a thread started by you:  http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,213154.msg939181.html#msg939181

Here is what you posted:  "Mr Trump has pledged to appoint judges who will uphold the Constitution"

Thats from the Article not me.

Taxpayer funding for Planned Parenthood is taxpayer funding for abortion.  Trump supports it.

Q: Were you ever a donor to Planned Parenthood?

TRUMP:I don't know--but it's possible. I give to so many organizations over the years. Hundreds of millions of dollars, so I really don't know. But look, Planned Parenthood has to stop with the abortions. A lot of people consider it an abortion clinic. I think those tapes that I saw were outrageous and disgusting by any standpoint. And they have to stop.

Q: So you would not shut down the government over Planned Parenthood funding?

TRUMP: I wouldn't fund it if they have abortion going on. Now, you hear all different numbers. They say it's 3%, other people say it's 85%. That's a big difference. So I'd certainly look into it.

Q: But would you shut down the government over this dispute?

Source: Meet the Press 2015 interviews of 2016 presidential hopefuls , Aug 16, 2015


The absurdity of that statement is mind-blowing.  btw, the reason the clinics are in poor neighborhoods is because that's where the poor minority unborn babies are.  From its conception, Planned Parenthood is an overtly racist organization.  You would be hard-pressed to find a Planned Parenthood clinic in a minority neighborhood that does not perform abortions.  Yet it would be easily to find one in a poor neighborhood that does not perform mammograms.  So much for servicing the poor with needed women's care.


Uh, no.  Trump didn't mention 'due process'.  You are lying again.  And they are not known enemies of the State - legally identified by due process.  Which is why there are so names on the no-fly list that do not belong there.

In an interview on ABC in November after a terror attack in Paris, George Stephanopoulus asked "Mr. Trump, yes or no, should someone on the terror watch list be allowed to buy a gun?"

Trump replied, "If somebody is on a watch list and an enemy of state and we know it's an enemy of state, I would keep them away, absolutely."

[RoosGirl]

@Mechanicos Can you supply for me the definition of "enemy of the state" as you understand it to be?

[Mechanicos]

@Mechanicos Can you supply for me the definition of "enemy of the state" as you understand it to be?

According to 50 USCS § 2204 [Title 50. War and National Defense; Chapter 39. Spoils of War], enemy of the United States means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States;
 (3) the term "person" means

(A) any natural person;

(B) any corporation, partnership, or other legal entity; and

(C) any organization, association, or group.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/e/enemy-of-the-united-states/

[RoosGirl]

According to 50 USCS § 2204 [Title 50. War and National Defense; Chapter 39. Spoils of War], enemy of the United States means any country, government, group, or person that has been engaged in hostilities, whether or not lawfully authorized, with the United States;
 (3) the term "person" means

(A) any natural person;

(B) any corporation, partnership, or other legal entity; and

(C) any organization, association, or group.

http://definitions.uslegal.com/e/enemy-of-the-united-states/

And, in the case of an individual, what is the process for declaring them an "enemy of the state"?

[Mechanicos]

And, in the case of an individual, what is the process for declaring them an "enemy of the state"?

Since he said KNOWN that means its known they have engaged in hostility against the United States. 

The case law on it is:
Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, 542 U.S. 507 (2004), a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court recognized the power of the U.S. government to detain enemy combatants, including U.S. citizens, but ruled that detainees who are U.S. citizens must have the rights of due process, and the ability to challenge their enemy combatant status before an impartial authority.

[RoosGirl]

Since he said KNOWN that means its known they have engaged in hostility against the United States. 

The case law on it is:
Hamdi v. Rumsfeld, 542 U.S. 507 (2004), a United States Supreme Court case in which the Court recognized the power of the U.S. government to detain enemy combatants, including U.S. citizens, but ruled that detainees who are U.S. citizens must have the rights of due process, and the ability to challenge their enemy combatant status before an impartial authority.

Does someone that has been found to be an "enemy of the state" have the right to purchase a gun or is that right removed with finding?

[Mechanicos]

Does someone that has been found to be an "enemy of the state" have the right to purchase a gun or is that right removed with finding?

Seems with Obama he hires them and arms them.

[RoosGirl]

Does someone that has been found to be an "enemy of the state" have the right to purchase a gun or is that right removed with finding?

This was a serious question.  Will you respond with a serious answer?

[Mechanicos]

This was a serious question.  Will you respond with a serious answer?

How it should be: A person who falls under a Known enemy of the United States has engaged in hostile actions against the US and should be in Jail and then a felon. Currently that means they would have lost the right.
Separate issue is whether or not its Constitutional to strip felons who are released back into the public from firearm ownership and possession. My opinion is if a person is free man they have all their rights. If they are too dangerous to release into the public they should not be released. 

[HootOwl]

The interview makes it sound like this is a very serious effort.

From down in the interview:

Interesting how many people find something about Mr. Trump that just rubs them the wrong way. It's not always the same thing, but there's often at least one thing, if not several things. That must account for his high unfavorability ratings.

A candid would have to make a fair amount of mistakes to have me  voting for Hillary.  A vote for anyone but Trump is half a vote for Hillary.  I have a feeling that if we step into anymore  of socialist-communist hell right now,  there will be no turning back.
       freedom of speech will  to go first.

[RoosGirl]

How it should be: A person who falls under a Known enemy of the United States has engaged in hostile actions against the US and should be in Jail and then a felon. Currently that means they would have lost the right.
Separate issue is whether or not its Constitutional to strip felons who are released back into the public from firearm ownership and possession. My opinion is if a person is free man they have all their rights. If they are too dangerous to release into the public they should not be released.

So is it correct to say currently that someone that is defined by the courts as an "enemy of the state" is considered a felon and as a felon they are not legally allowed to purchase a firearm?

[Mechanicos]

So is it correct to say currently that someone that is defined by the courts as an "enemy of the state" is considered a felon and as a felon they are not legally allowed to purchase a firearm?

I wish I could say that but the reality is Obama and democrats are letting in high probability terrorists from terrorist countries and giving them jobs free stuff and even putting them on government positions.

[RoosGirl]

I wish I could say that but the reality is Obama and democrats are letting in high probability terrorists from terrorist countries and giving them jobs free stuff and even putting them on government positions.

I'm not asking what Obama is doing.  I'm asking what the current law in the country is.