Five reasons Brexit could signal Trump winning the White House

[ArneFufkin]

I don't think the Brexit victory and the rise of campaigns involving guys like Trump and Sanders are all that disconnected.

This is a backlash against the entrenched elite who have been screwing everything up for decades.

If Trump can build on the focused, statesmanlike posture he's been showing lately (c/o Manafort) and actually nab 22-25% of Sanders' primary voters he has a real chance in November.

[INVAR]

Everything and anything in the world that the Trump Militant think they can graft onto their Political Savior as harbingers of glory, attributes of his divine blessings; including babies born, seas falling and EU referendums will be tied to Trump in the most ridiculous and convoluted stretches of pretzel logic yet seen on earth.

Same as the Marxist Left did for Obama.

It's what the faithful for political messiah's do.

And make no mistake, the Trump Militant want Trump as their dictator, Lucifer and Sovereign.

Even if they have to roll bones and read the entrails after the morning sacrifice to proclaim that events in Andrha Pradesh signal a victory of mammoth proportions for their Orange Glorious.

[sinkspur]

I don't think the Brexit victory and the rise of campaigns involving guys like Trump and Sanders are all that disconnected.

This is a backlash against the entrenched elite who have been screwing everything up for decades.

If Trump can build on the focused, statesmanlike posture he's been showing lately (c/o Manafort) and actually nab 22-25% of Sanders' primary voters he has a real chance in November.

Why would you want him to have a chance?  He's mentally unstable.   You know this is simply a pose and that the real Trump is just under the surface, waiting to break free.

[DCPatriot]

Why would you want him to have a chance?  He's mentally unstable.   You know this is simply a pose and that the real Trump is just under the surface, waiting to break free.

No Sink!  He's not unstable. 

Serious events require a serious tone.  Winning the Nomination was just him having 'fun'.

Meet 'President Donald Trump'.

Where was HE today?   He was in Britain giving a speech and taking questions from the media.

Where was Barack?  He was hiding behind closed doors raising money.

Where was Hillary?   Hiding in a closet under the stairs, sucking her thumb.

[libertybele]

Good morning, Scott!

The British vote mirrored the same proportion of the population.   73% of Britons voted  and it was fairly close.

We've known for at least 8 years that about 48-52% of the American electorate are behind the DEMS...the party of the Globalists.

And remember...'they' tell us it's that elusive 14% Independent/Crossover voter that spells victory or defeat.

Now...figure in the "Anger", "lost pride" and "Immigration".  CROSSOVER voters are going to lift Trump into the White House.

Trump wins going away!   

I think Britain's exit will definitely set an example for the U.S.  Problem still is DC ... will Trump do as he says he's going to do or is he merely Clinton's pawn in the grand chess game?

[INVAR]

I think Britain's exit will definitely set an example for the U.S.  Problem still is DC ... will Trump do as he says he's going to do or is he merely Clinton's pawn in the grand chess game?

Based on what I've heard from Trump thus far, he will either grow and expand DC and the beast of the federal behemoth, or he was sent by the Clinton's to pave the way for her coronation by wiping out any Conservative opposition.

Which Trump did.

Of course that Republicans would nominate a vulgar self-absorbed lifelong Democrat who funded and endorsed Communist Bill DeBlasio for NYC mayor less than 3 years ago is proof that the GOP needs to die and go the way of the Whigs.

[geronl]

dumb.

A free and sovereign UK leaving the tyrannous EUSSR is a good thing.

[geronl]

I don't think the Brexit victory and the rise of campaigns involving guys like Trump and Sanders are all that disconnected.

Trump is one of the elite. Only a fool would buy him as an "outsider", and now of course now that he seems to be the presumptuous nominee, opposing the GOP makes us traitors. lol.

They have turned establishment very quickly.

[HonestJohn]

It will depend on how the Brexit plays out.

If it proves to be calamitous, the Brexit will harm Trump greatly.
If it proves to be an economic negative (factories closing, unemployment up), the Brexit will harm Trump.
If it dismembers Great Britain, with Scotland and Northern Ireland voting to break away to stay in the EU, the Brexit will harm Trump.

If it's a wash for Britain, it will be a wash for Trump.

And if it turns into an economic boon for Britain, Trump can use it to say, "I told you so!"

The heavy odds are with the Brexit being an economic negative for Britain... and a very good chance Scotland will redo their last vote to leave Great Britain.  Only now, they will probably succeed, just to be able to stay in the EU.

[sinkspur]

It will depend on how the Brexit plays out.

If it proves to be calamitous, the Brexit will harm Trump greatly.
If it proves to be an economic negative (factories closing, unemployment up), the Brexit will harm Trump.
If it dismembers Great Britain, with Scotland and Northern Ireland voting to break away to stay in the EU, the Brexit will harm Trump.

If it's a wash for Britain, it will be a wash for Trump.

And if it turns into an economic boon for Britain, Trump can use it to say, "I told you so!"

The heavy odds are with the Brexit being an economic negative for Britain... and a very good chance Scotland will redo their last vote to leave Great Britain.  Only now, they will probably succeed, just to be able to stay in the

Very perceptive.  And, if the US markets remain down for the rest of the campaign and growth slows significantly, it will be blamed on Brexit and Trump's pompous chest-beating over backing Brexit will sink him.

The UK will be broken up in short order and England will look like a shadow of its former self ten years from now.

[sinkspur]

No Sink!  He's not unstable. 

Serious events require a serious tone.  Winning the Nomination was just him having 'fun'.

Meet 'President Donald Trump'.

Where was HE today?   He was in Britain giving a speech and taking questions from the media.

Where was Barack?  He was hiding behind closed doors raising money.

Where was Hillary?   Hiding in a closet under the stairs, sucking her thumb.

Delegates are still looking for a way to not vote for him on the first ballot at the Convention.  Instead of trying to unify these delegates, he's in Scotland (a region that voted against Brexit 2-1) pimping his golf resort and putting himself on record favoring a move that will crater the existence of the UK and weaken whatever remains.

That's not a president. It's a selfish ahole.   Trump is too stupid to see the ramifications of the Brexit vote as are those cheering it here and there.  There will likely be a major recession in Great Britain and all those wanting to burn the place down will be worse off than they are now.

[Jazzhead]

For the record,  I'd have voted "Leave" if I were British.    But I've always been an Anglophile,  and look forward with hope that Britain's casting off the EU yoke will lead to better trade, prosperity and good feeling between them and us.   We are the central representatives of the "English Speaking Peoples", and we are everywhere and of every race,  thanks to British colonization of India and South Africa and elsewhere, and the central English traditions of the common law and the rights of man.   

The problem with Trump isn't that he's not raising important issues.   A lot of his economic nationalism shtick (and from him, it is shtick)  resonates with me,  and I have no objection to the proto-Constitutional practice of tariffs (if done correctly).   

The problem with Trump is Trump.   He's brought the train so far,  but it's time to cede the controls.   He's dangerously unstable,  and temperamentally the worst thing you'd want as CIC.   He's baited and insulted a gigantic swath of the population.   I say that's pernicious, and stupid,  and the man's aggression-fueled narcissism scares the shit out of everyone I talk to.

The lesson of Brexit is to present the issue with tact and seriousness,  with the support of serious, credible leaders.  That's how Brexit won.   The public face of the issue wasn't a ludicrous clownshow.   

Trump and the issues he represents are going to lose badly to Hillary Clinton.  To save those issues, and not to mention having a shot at defeating Clinton and saving the Senate,  a new face is needed.    Trump's got to do the right thing and respect the will of the delegates voting their consciences.       

[Mesaclone]

It will depend on how the Brexit plays out.

If it proves to be calamitous, the Brexit will harm Trump greatly.
If it proves to be an economic negative (factories closing, unemployment up), the Brexit will harm Trump.
If it dismembers Great Britain, with Scotland and Northern Ireland voting to break away to stay in the EU, the Brexit will harm Trump.

If it's a wash for Britain, it will be a wash for Trump.

And if it turns into an economic boon for Britain, Trump can use it to say, "I told you so!"

The heavy odds are with the Brexit being an economic negative for Britain... and a very good chance Scotland will redo their last vote to leave Great Britain.  Only now, they will probably succeed, just to be able to stay in the EU.

That's just wrong. None of these things will be determined prior to this November. Short term market reaction is generally meaningless, and any long term economic impact won't be known until the shape of exit negotiations is clear...and that is YEARS down the road. Ditto for Scotland having a referendum, which is likely inevitable with or without Brexit.

[Fishrrman]

truth_seeker wrote above:
"The visual of thousands of unwelcome migrants gathering at Calais, to invade Britain like an ancient horde, sealed the deal."

Here's another Fishrrman off-da-wall prediction for ya:
Someday, Brits are going to pour tons of concrete to seal off their end of that tunnel from the muslim hordes that have taken over Western Europe...

[sinkspur]

ISIS, Iran, Putin, LaPen, and Trump all favor Brexit.  What sane American could be in that company?

[EC]

I was told to take it here, so here I am.

I do appreciate that, very much.  It was, at the time, a thread for following the vote and nothing else. And as I said, there are plenty of appropriate threads today.

The EU will enter a free trade agreement with the Brits -- the business community on the continent will demand it, and there's no reason to oppose it other than sheer petulance.

The EU and Merkel overplayed their hand.  It's one thing to try to integrate economically, but political integration was amount to subservience to Merkel.  And the Brits didn't like it.

Merkel, in her zeal, forgot one rather important fact. The EU gets preferential trade agreements with the Commonwealth countries THROUGH the UK. They pretty much hang onto our coat tails in that respect.

Yes, the UK is in for a couple of rough years. Only a fool would deny that. We've survived rough times before, we will again.

[HonestJohn]

It has nothing to do with Trump.

http://www.gopbriefingroom.com/index.php/topic,213381.0.html

[Mesaclone]

ISIS, Iran, Putin, LaPen, and Trump all favor Brexit.  What sane American could be in that company?

What idiocy.

That's like saying ISIS and Evangelical Christians are both conservative religious movements....and what sane American could be in that company?

Or that ISIS and Ted Cruz both think the gay lifestyle is sinful...and what sane American could be in that company?

Citing isolated commonalities between radically different things and then implying that they are thus similar...is intellectually dishonest at the least. More likely, its deliberately reprehensible and just plain stupid...demonstrating that you understand neither of the two things you are comparing.

[massadvj]

I am not sure how I would have voted on this.  The issue divided conservatives in the UK between the culture preservationists who wanted to leave and the free market advocates who wanted to stay.  It is very similar to the divide between libertarians and so-cons here in the states.  While I am generally a free trade advocate, the EU has grown to become a socialist wealth redistributive government body that seems unaccountable to anyone but the ruling elite.  What began as a common market has evolved into an overbearing regulatory body that stifles innovation and free thought.  It needed to be taken down a notch.

OTOH, I don't see how the UK is better off out of the EU.  This could very well be the final nail in the coffin of once-Great Britain as Scotland will likely leave, and Northern Ireland will come under tremendous pressure to join a unified Ireland as part of the EU.  The UK will be England, Wales and a few remnants of the old colonies.  Other than being a nuclear power, it will not have much leverage on the world stage.