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McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« on: June 23, 2016, 10:47:00 pm »
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/284711-mcconnell-quashes-senate-effort-on-guns

 By Alexander Bolton - 06/23/16 05:28 PM EDT

Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) on Thursday cut the legs out from a bipartisan effort to keep suspected terrorists from buying guns.

In doing so, McConnell, a master of the Senate’s arcane rules, provided cover for vulnerable Republicans who wanted to be seen as supporting the effort, but did not want to cross the National Rifle Association.

“The scenario that Sen. McConnell set up was textbook McConnell,” said Brian Darling, a former Senate Republican aide.

McConnell had promised a vote this week to Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine) on her bipartisan measure barring people on two key terrorist watch lists from buying guns or explosives.

But what he scheduled was not what she had in mind.

Instead of setting up a vote to add the Collins legislation to the pending appropriations bill on the Senate floor, McConnell scheduled a vote to discard it.

The Collins bill survived that test in a 46-52 vote, but it fell far short of winning 60 votes, the threshold necessary to overcome procedural hurdles.

The result allows Republicans to argue that no other action is necessary.

“It didn’t have sixty votes. That’s what a motion to table does. It demonstrates where the votes are,” said Don Stewart, McConnell’s spokesman.

McConnell also set up a vote on an alternative sponsored by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) that was not opposed by the NRA.

The last-minute measure had no chance of passing the Senate, but gave political cover for Johnson and Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Rob Portman (R-Ohio), Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Roy Blunt (R-Mo.) and Marco Rubio (R-Fla.), who are all in challenging reelection races this fall.

All six voted against the Collins bill but in favor of the Johnson measure.

Sponsors of the Collins bill say their measure could have passed if McConnell had set up a positive vote to add it to the bill instead of a negative vote to kill it, and if he had offered it cleanly without a competing side-by-side alternative.

“If you put this one up for cloture now, it’s got a good shot,” said Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.), who backed the Collins measure.

He said the Johnson alternative gave his colleagues a reason to vote against his bill.

“There was a competing one,” he added. “There were two competing amendments. If there’s only ours left, then I suspect a number of those who voted for the other one will come over.”

Collins lamented that the way McConnell set up the votes made it tough to know how much support her proposal could have garnered had it been offered cleanly.

“That’ll be a question I’ll never know the answer to,” she said when asked how her amendment would have done had the Johnson amendment not been there to provide political cover.

When asked if she wanted to have another vote on the proposal, Collins said, “Of course,” just before taking an elevator down to the Capitol basement.

The maneuver allowed McConnell to slip out of a tough spot.

Pressure on Congress to do something about guns has grown following a Senate filibuster last week and a sit-in on the House floor by Democrats that concluded hours before Thursday’s votes.

A CNN/ORC poll released Monday showed that 85 percent of respondents nationwide favored preventing people on government terrorism watch lists from buying guns.

By scheduling a vote on a motion to table, McConnell allowed a vote on Collins’s plan without giving it any real chance of passing, averting the wrath of Second Amendment advocates.

Thursday’s votes effectively quashed the momentum behind the gun-control measure that had built throughout the week.

Collins had teamed up with Flake, Sen. Kelly Ayotte (R-N.H.), a vulnerable incumbent, and centrist Democratic Sen. Heidi Heitkamp (N.D.) to offer a bipartisan bill after four other measures were rejected by the Senate on Monday.

More narrowly drawn than one of the measures that failed Monday, it would only have blocked gun purchases by people on the terrorist no-fly list and the so-called selectee list, who require additional screening at airports.

It also would have given people denied firearms a 14-day period to appeal the decision and would have reimbursed their attorney’s fees in the case of a successful appeal.

Democrats blasted McConnell for setting up what they derided as a “fake” vote on the Collins amendment.

“The Collins vote, which just took place a few minutes ago, was … for lack of a better description, just a show vote,” said Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid (Nev.).

He called on McConnell to schedule a vote that would give colleagues a path to adding it to the underlying Commerce, Justice, Science appropriations bill.

“I hope now the Republican leader will bring the Collins compromise to a vote here on the floor — a real vote,” he said.

But that’s not likely to happen, at least anytime soon.

Sen. Pat Toomey (R-Pa.), an endangered incumbent who voted for the Collins amendment, said voting on the motion to discard it was sufficient.

“We just saw what the vote is. Is it your theory that the vote count would change?” he said. “There were 52 votes against tabling. If we had a cloture motion on this, it would get 52 votes.”

 
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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2016, 10:59:11 pm »
Collins needs to consider switching parties.
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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2016, 11:07:07 pm »
We read on here constantly that Mitch McConnell always gives Obama what he wants, that he works in concert with Harry Reid to oppose conservatives.

McConnell knows what he's doing when it comes to running the Senate, but I'm afraid we're going to lose his leadership to Chuck Schumer because of Trump.
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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2016, 11:44:56 pm »
If McConnell only used his knowledge of "arcane Senate rules" much more often against Obama and Reid, instead of Conservatives, then this country would be a lot better off.
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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2016, 12:27:53 am »
If McConnell only used his knowledge of "arcane Senate rules" much more often against Obama and Reid, instead of Conservatives, then this country would be a lot better off.
When I see representatives doing the right thing, I try to praise them without qualifications.  Big ups Senator McConnell.

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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2016, 02:01:24 am »
We read on here constantly that Mitch McConnell always gives Obama what he wants, that he works in concert with Harry Reid to oppose conservatives.

McConnell knows what he's doing when it comes to running the Senate, but I'm afraid we're going to lose his leadership to Chuck Schumer because of Trump.

Quoting the whole thing because you're right on all counts.

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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2016, 02:18:20 am »
I thought Trump was behind that one.

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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2016, 02:23:13 am »
Is this really the face of someone that you want to have a say in your right to own a gun?

Personally, I don't trust that this guy has enough brain power to tell me what my rights are!




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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #8 on: June 24, 2016, 03:22:33 am »
Typical of Senate Republicans to hide behind arcane rules to cover their butts.
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Re: McConnell quashes Senate effort on guns
« Reply #9 on: June 24, 2016, 10:07:47 am »
We read on here constantly that Mitch McConnell always gives Obama what he wants, that he works in concert with Harry Reid to oppose conservatives.

McConnell knows what he's doing when it comes to running the Senate, but I'm afraid we're going to lose his leadership to Chuck Schumer because of Trump.

Because he freaking DOES give Obama all he wants SINK!!!! Good freaking Lord were you sick a decade and missed it?

Schumer could not GIVE more than Mitch has to advance Liberalism. And did you miss the part of the article where HE WAS GIVING COVER TO REPUBLICANS THAT WANTED IT????

Hello? Are we missing the forest for the tree here? Yes. You are. This disaster that is Trump is BECAUSE of the disaster that is Mitch hosing the country and unthinking people looking for a white knight...ANY white knight, to ride in and save them from the mess MITCH MADE.
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