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There Is No Other, More ‘Presidential’ Donald Trump
« on: June 16, 2016, 07:09:50 pm »
by Jim Geraghty June 16, 2016 4:00 AM

He is exactly who we thought he was. It’s been a busy couple of days for Donald Trump. He announced this morning that he will try to persuade the National Rifle Association to support legislation “not allowing people on the terrorist watch list, or the no fly list, to buy guns,” after the NRA chose to ignore his past comments in support of an assault-weapons ban and endorse him. He recently suggested American troops in Iraq were a bunch of thieves: “Iraq, crooked as hell. How about bringing baskets of money — millions and millions of dollars — and handing it out? I want to know who were the soldiers that had that job, because I think they’re living very well right now, whoever they may be.”

Trump’s spokeswoman later claimed that he only meant Iraqi soldiers, which might have been convincing if he hadn’t made similar remarks last fall that clearly referenced U.S. soldiers: “Remember when they were handing $50 million of cash? They were going through Afghanistan paying off — I want to know, who are the soldiers that are carrying cash, $50 million, cash?” he said then. “How stupid are we? I wouldn’t be surprised — if those soldiers, I wouldn’t be surprised if the cash didn’t get there.”

There were indeed allegations that the Coalition Provisional Authority had little oversight over massive amounts of currency sent to Iraq, and at least 115 enlisted personnel and military officers were indeed convicted on $52 million worth of theft, bribery, and contract-rigging charges related to their time in Afghanistan and Iraq. But Trump’s comments offered no such detail or perspective; he simply rambled without warning, suggesting that the war in Iraq was cover for a massive heist. There is no responsible, unifying, disciplined Trump waiting to be unveiled at the right time. This is who he is. His comments after the Orlando shooting seemed to effectively imply that President Obama might be an ISIS sleeper agent. “He doesn’t get it or he gets it better than anybody understands,” Trump said. “It’s one or the other: We’re led by a man that either . . . is not tough, not smart, or he’s got something else in mind.” Speaking about himself in third person, Trump tweeted, “Media fell all over themselves criticizing what DonaldTrump [sic] “may have insinuated about @POTUS.” But he’s right.” In his own defense, he linked to a Breitbart.com article about a 2012 Defense Intelligence Agency report on al-Qaeda in Iraq.

The report mentions “the West” as supporting the opposition forces; it details one of the figures in al-Qaeda in Iraq as Muhammad al-Adnani, currently the official spokesman for ISIS. This, Trump seemed to be saying, was proof that the Obama administration and Obama himself support ISIS.

More at:

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/436686/donald-trump-general-election-pivot-myth
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Hey, his cultists should be glad.  They don't want stumpy to show how mushy he really is.

Except, he does, anyway.
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Hey, his cultists should be glad.  They don't want stumpy to show how mushy he really is.

Except, he does, anyway.

An unmitigated disaster.  He has NO chance of winning in November.  We warned the Trump backers of the debacle they were inviting... but emotion ruled the day.
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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

 :tongue2:

:bigsilly:

In other words, you have no rebuttal.

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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

 :tongue2:

What, exactly, in that National Review article is incorrect or inaccurate?
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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

 :tongue2:

You'd get a lot more respect around here if you'd rebut the article and not make (stupid) personal attacks on those of us who don't support Trump.

How do you defend his wanting to take away the gun rights of innocent people?  How do you defend his accusations against our troops in Iraq?

How about a substantive response?
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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

 :tongue2:

I'm sure.  /s

Meanwhile, the article is spot-on.  I challenge you directly to prove otherwise.
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What, exactly, in that National Review article is incorrect or inaccurate?

You're in for a long wait.  Grab a snack. 
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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By the way... hi there, guesties!  How're things at the FReakzone?

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The whole premise that we would see a different Donald Trump was ludicrous anyway.  It's like saying you support the phony. 

Good point.

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By the way... hi there, guesties!  How're things at the FReakzone?

Boring, apparently.

Echo chambers are that way.

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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

 :tongue2:

I see you're also engaged in some anti-TBR propagandizing over at the FReakzone.  If you're so disdainful of the people here in TBR, why in the hell are you here?


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What's TBR?
It's where banned Freepers migrate to engage in group denial-fest or wallow in self pity because the mean old Trumpster branded St. Cruz the liar that he is. They have an open-door policy that lets any FR refugee in -- whether they're a disruptive troll or not. If you're a Trump supporter don't bother going there, you wouldn't like it. They are mostly #NeverTrump. Trying to reason with them is like talking to a tree stump.


48 posted on 06/09/2016 8:26:25 AM PDT by aligncare (Donald J Trump, the next president of the United States)

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I see you're also engaged in some anti-TBR propagandizing over at the FReakzone.  If you're so disdainful of the people here in TBR, why in the hell are you here?


http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3438392/replies?c=2

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What's TBR?
It's where banned Freepers migrate to engage in group denial-fest or wallow in self pity because the mean old Trumpster branded St. Cruz the liar that he is. They have an open-door policy that lets any FR refugee in -- whether they're a disruptive troll or not. If you're a Trump supporter don't bother going there, you wouldn't like it. They are mostly #NeverTrump. Trying to reason with them is like talking to a tree stump.


48 posted on 06/09/2016 8:26:25 AM PDT by aligncare (Donald J Trump, the next president of the United States)

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Thats just downright hurtful & mean.  :hard crying:


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When you look up Trump Derangement Syndrome in The American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders it redirects to National Review.

It's motto is "National Review: Suitable For Framing"  Think about it.

 :tongue2:

Trump is for America First.
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That's also rich coming from a guy who ran over to TOS and thoroughly trashed TBR...

I posted regularly at free republic from July '05 until Nancy and Tracy invited me here, where I have remained exclusively until the personal insults to my character and veracity recently drove me to leave. I went to free republic and posted a handful of times. One time, the post you saw, someone mentioned TBR. A poster then asked, What's TBR?

I answered:

It's where banned Freepers migrate to engage in group denial-fest or wallow in self pity because the mean old Trumpster branded St. Cruz the liar that he is. They have an open-door policy that lets any FR refugee in -- whether they're a disruptive troll or not. If you're a Trump supporter don't bother going there, you wouldn't like it. They are mostly #NeverTrump. Trying to reason with them is like talking to a tree stump.

In my opinion, everything I said was true. Others can see for themselves whether I "thoroughly trashed TBR." I don't believe I did. I was critical of the migrants who came in with guns a'blazing and I also criticized the open door policy.

If you think that's thoroughly trashing TBR, then I can't help you.

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By the way, I heard you engage in thoroughly trashing free republic. Is that true?

Yeah, you. You know who I'm talking to.

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That's also rich coming from a guy who ran over to TOS and thoroughly trashed TBR...

I posted regularly at free republic from July '05 until Nancy and Tracy invited me here, where I have remained exclusively until the personal insults to my character and veracity recently drove me to leave. I went to free republic and posted a handful of times. One time, the post you saw, someone mentioned TBR. A poster then asked, What's TBR?

I answered:

It's where banned Freepers migrate to engage in group denial-fest or wallow in self pity because the mean old Trumpster branded St. Cruz the liar that he is. They have an open-door policy that lets any FR refugee in -- whether they're a disruptive troll or not. If you're a Trump supporter don't bother going there, you wouldn't like it. They are mostly #NeverTrump. Trying to reason with them is like talking to a tree stump.

In my opinion, everything I said was true. Others can see for themselves whether I "thoroughly trashed TBR." I don't believe I did. I was critical of the migrants who came in with guns a'blazing and I also criticized the open door policy.

If you think that's thoroughly trashing TBR, then I can't help you.

That's disgusting.
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You have a low threshold for disgust. Is that a sequela symptom of TDS? Perhaps you should up your meds.

So much for refraining from direct personal insults.

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Yeah, I'm a counterpuncher.

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A poster then asked, What's TBR?

I answered:

It's where banned Freepers migrate to engage in group denial-fest or wallow in self pity because the mean old Trumpster branded St. Cruz the liar that he is. They have an open-door policy that lets any FR refugee in -- whether they're a disruptive troll or not. If you're a Trump supporter don't bother going there, you wouldn't like it. They are mostly #NeverTrump. Trying to reason with them is like talking to a tree stump.

I'm new here so I've stayed out of the threads where long-time TBR posters deal with differences which might have recently emerged.  But I'm curious - given the advice you gave to FReepers above, which I've shown in bold, what is your purpose in posting on TBR?
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Yeah, I'm a counterpuncher.

That's one way of looking at it. 

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An unmitigated disaster.  He has NO chance of winning in November.  We warned the Trumpettes of the debacle they were inviting... but emotion ruled the day.

I've just been told by the mods to remove a post that was off topic and a personal attack, which I immediately did. Would you kindly consider removing your reference to me as a "Trumpette?"

Thank you.


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I've just been told by the mods to remove a post that was off topic and a personal attack, which I immediately did. Would you kindly consider removing your reference to me as a "Trumpette?"

Thank you.



That's not a direct personal attack. If you think otherwise, file a moderators report. 

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Yeah, I'm a counterpuncher.

Who used to be a decent person before Donald Trump got a hold of his soul..........   **nononono*
Character still matters.  It always matters.

I wear a mask as an exercise in liberty and love for others.  To see it as an infringement of liberty is to entirely miss the point.  Be kind.

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