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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #25 on: June 14, 2016, 12:36:48 pm »
I read it said elsewhere and think it is possible that some of his selfie pictures do have something about them that might make one wonder about this, might set off one's "gaydar".

http://www.thehindu.com/multimedia/dynamic/02894/Mateen_2894248f.jpg  Like this one, I'm not going to post a big photo of this person who has caused so much hurt. We should think of the victims.

And now the NY Post chimes in that the wife says this: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ck59K6VWUAAZqh5.jpg  Eyebrows appear to be clipped which doesn't necessarily mean anything, I know some men's eyebrows can jut way out. His wife, the one he beat actually looks attractive too.  I wonder what her background is?
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2016, 12:42:39 pm »
Well, if he was gay, why would you discount that?

His was (perhaps) a witch's gruel of his sexual impulses, his faith and teachings, his sense of honor, and personal identity.  He traveled 100+ miles to frequent the place.  He may have experienced rejection.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2016, 12:52:36 pm »
A self-loathing homosexual,  no doubt made so by his religion.   The pattern isn't unusual,  although of course the outcome was.

He should have thrown himself off a rooftop instead.
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2016, 01:02:30 pm »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?
Why couldn't it be both? He could hate himself for being a homosexual and please Allah at the same time by getting rid of many filthy American infidels who also happen to be homosexuals.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #29 on: June 14, 2016, 02:03:01 pm »
CBS This Morning only just in the last 30 minutes is now reporting that the terrorist had been going to the gay Pulse bar for several years (ABC News had been reporting this for several hours now).
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #30 on: June 14, 2016, 02:54:45 pm »
The most hate-filled, bitter, and emotionally/mentally unstable people I have ever met... just so happened to be homosexual.

Coincidence?

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #31 on: June 14, 2016, 03:00:22 pm »
The loudest, most outspoken gay haters/homophobes ALWAYS turn out to be gay.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #32 on: June 14, 2016, 03:07:32 pm »
Why couldn't it be both? He could hate himself for being a homosexual and please Allah at the same time by getting rid of many filthy American infidels who also happen to be homosexuals.
In that vein, the Federalist suggests he may not have been targeting homosexuals at all.
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #33 on: June 14, 2016, 08:10:20 pm »
I read somewhere years ago, that muslim men can pitch but NOT catch, and that is supposed to be alright. :shrug:


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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #34 on: June 14, 2016, 08:26:31 pm »
You would have to dismiss all the radical things he said and the fact that he was on the terror watch list for quite awhile.  It is more likely that his targets were chosen because he sort of knew them and felt certain he could get away with it, like the California couple shot up their coworkers at a Christmas party.

Not to mention that this Islamist murderer stopped the carnage long enough to call 911 and say that he's committing these acts in solidarity with ISIS.

But, what's interesting is no matter how tangential or obscure the connection, sinkspur will alway say something to cast doubt on Donald Trump. In this case, it's Trump's proposal for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US. Classic TDS symptoms.

Weird, I know.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #35 on: June 14, 2016, 09:26:03 pm »
The loudest, most outspoken gay haters/homophobes ALWAYS turn out to be gay.

Only gay people think that.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #36 on: June 14, 2016, 09:36:07 pm »
What if this had nothing to do with Islam, but was a gay thing instead?

Sodomy and Islam have had a long, intertwined, cultural history.  They have the Greek hatred of body and polygamy all mixed together in their thinking.  So they are not mutually exclusive.

That said, the dude: (1) is an Afgan muslim; (2) dad is a Taliban supporter; (3) hung out with ISIS people; (4) has a long history of radical Islamic beliefs, statements, and acts; (5) stated it was an Islamic thing during and before the incident.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #37 on: June 14, 2016, 09:37:04 pm »
The most hate-filled, bitter, and emotionally/mentally unstable people I have ever met... just so happened to be homosexual.

Coincidence?

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #38 on: June 14, 2016, 10:40:48 pm »
Wow! What a freaky plot twist…

This terrorist now appears to have been a self-loathing homosexual Muslim! The dam is now bursting with multiple accounts from several sources indicating that the terrorist was gay and had frequented the gay Pulse bar and other gay bars for several years.

That's the narrative they're trying to push now, but note...

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All but Cold Keg have since closed, and the owner there said he hadn’t seen Mateen.

Neither had one of the former owners of Kashmir, who said none of his former employees have reached out to him, either.

Rebar closed in February and became Tattle Tails. The owner of Tattle Tails, Johnscott Willett, said Monday that he did not recognize Mateen. Willett said he worked for nine years at Rebar and didn’t recognize him from his time there, either.

Noted only at Pulse and recently, going along with the idea that he cased the target.
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #39 on: June 14, 2016, 10:48:30 pm »
Sodomy and Islam have had a long, intertwined, cultural history.  They have the Greek hatred of body and polygamy all mixed together in their thinking.  So they are not mutually exclusive.

That said, the dude: (1) is an Afgan muslim; (2) dad is a Taliban supporter; (3) hung out with ISIS people; (4) has a long history of radical Islamic beliefs, statements, and acts; (5) stated it was an Islamic thing during and before the incident.

Sometimes a rose is just a rose.

One of our sons spent a year in Afghanistan (not in the military) and was horrified by the fact that many Afghan men divorce their wives because they don't become pregnant.

But that the reason they don't become pregnant is that the men are so accustomed to having sex with boys/men, that they don't, shall we say, know which part does what in a woman.

Afghan culture is very, very sick.........
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #40 on: June 24, 2016, 09:04:02 pm »
The loudest, most outspoken gay haters/homophobes ALWAYS turn out to be gay.

What? Bull....

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Only gay people think that.

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #41 on: June 24, 2016, 09:25:09 pm »
Not to mention that this Islamist murderer stopped the carnage long enough to call 911 and say that he's committing these acts in solidarity with ISIS.

But, what's interesting is no matter how tangential or obscure the connection, sinkspur will alway say something to cast doubt on Donald Trump. In this case, it's Trump's proposal for a temporary ban on Muslims entering the US. Classic TDS symptoms.

Weird, I know.

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It is beyond weird. It is obsessive and delusional. But hey, I suppose we should consider If Maj. Hasan Ft. Hood, the Boston bomber brothers, and the San Bernardino couple were all gay, not muslim suicide terrorists too.
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #42 on: June 24, 2016, 09:40:43 pm »
SOURCE: HOTAIR.COM

URL: http://hotair.com/archives/2016/06/24/fbi-no-evidence-omar-mateen-had-gay-lovers/

by: John Sexton



Remember “Miguel?” That’s the fake name Univision gave to a man who claimed he was Omar Mateen’s gay lover. According to Miguel, the motive for the Orlando attack wasn’t ISIS it was revenge after learning a man he’d had sex with was HIV positive. But a report by the LA Times says the FBI has found no evidence to back up Miguel’s account or to suggest that Mateen ever had any gay lovers:

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Several Pulse regulars have come forward in the days since the shooting, claiming to have seen Mateen at the club or to have been contacted by him on the gay dating apps Grindr, Jack’d and Adam4Adam.

On Tuesday, Univision aired a report in which “Miguel,” a man wearing a disguise to conceal his identity, alleged he had sex with Mateen after meeting him on the gay dating app, Grindr. He said Mateen had sex with other men too, including a threesome with a Puerto Rican who allegedly told Mateen, after having had unprotected sex with him, that he was HIV positive.

But investigators do not consider the man’s account credible, according to one senior law enforcement official with access to the investigation.

The FBI has reportedly searched Mateen’s laptop and his phone and found no evidence he led a dual life, i.e. no gay porn or evidence he was contacting gay men. They have also traced his whereabouts using cell tower pings and see nothing to suggest he was leading a secret life.

Today the AP has a follow-up report confirming what the LA Times reported yesterday:

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The officials say the FBI, which has conducted 500 interviews, has recovered Mateen’s phone and is reviewing evidence from it, has not found concrete evidence to corroborate such accounts nearly two weeks into the investigation. They also cautioned that the investigation is ongoing and that nothing has formally been ruled out.

The AP story also mentions Pulse regular Jim Van Horn who claimed Mateen was a regular at the club and repeatedly tried to pick up men. Van Horn tells the AP no one from the FBI has spoken to him and says he’s not sure why they haven’t found proof Mateen was at the club prior to the attack.

All of this suggests the reports that Mateen was gay may have been in error…and yet. Just yesterday there was a report at TMZ claiming the hotel where “Miguel” claimed to have met with Mateen had security video backing up his claim. Granted this is TMZ but the story says, “We’re told the FBI went to the Ambassador [Hotel] Tuesday night and took a copy of the surveillance footage.”

Is this true? Did they FBI retrieve footage from the hotel? Did they determine it wasn’t Mateen on the video? Neither the LA Times nor the AP mention it at all so it’s not clear if statements suggesting Miguel was not a credible source came before or after the surveillance tape was reviewed.

Until the FBI confirms one of these stories about Mateen’s secret life with some undeniable proof, claims that this was something other than a terrorist attack appear unfounded. Obviously that could still change in the coming weeks, but for now we know the reasons Mateen gave for his actions, i.e. revenge for the U.S. bombing campaign in solidarity with ISIS. Evidence for another, more personal motive is still lacking.


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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #43 on: June 24, 2016, 09:49:13 pm »
That guy wasn't the only one saying it, though

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #44 on: June 24, 2016, 10:53:07 pm »
The current administration is desperate to turn htis into a heterosexual on homosexual crime so that they can advance their 'anti-biggotry' agenda, and blame heteros for everything-

[[The FBI has reportedly searched Mateen’s laptop and his phone and found no evidence he led a dual life, i.e. no gay porn or evidence he was contacting gay men.]]

Yup- no evidence at all EXCEPT that he was a frequent patron of a GAY BAR- and his former classmate reports he was gay.

This wasn't just a terrorist attack- it was a gay terrorist attack

[[They have also traced his whereabouts using cell tower pings and see nothing to suggest he was leading a secret life.]]

Yeah because you can always tell from cell phone pings whether a gay  man is riding around with another gay man or not- pings are like that- all knowing and all- able to discern the tiniest details with nothing but a cell tower ping-

 

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #45 on: June 25, 2016, 01:33:48 am »
Like I said before, this "he was gay" thing was bs. He scoped out the clubs for his mass killing spree is all he did. People wanting their 15 minutes of fame crawled out of the woodworks and slimy reporters gladly took their word as gospel.
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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #47 on: June 25, 2016, 01:46:06 am »
Did one of his wives say this as well? We will see.

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« Reply #48 on: June 25, 2016, 06:51:10 am »
seems a lot of people were saying it- the noly ones that aren't are the FBI and the president and all his merry men lol

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Re: Orlando shooter Omar Mateen was gay, former classmate says
« Reply #49 on: June 25, 2016, 10:58:59 am »
seems a lot of people were saying it- the noly ones that aren't are the FBI and the president and all his merry men lol
Indeed. I'll believe it when they indict Clinton. Until then, their word is useless.
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