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FBI Hits Back at Criticism It Missed Chance to Stop Orlando Killer
Monday, June 13, 2016 01:45 PM

By: Chris Strohm and Mike Dorning

U.S. law enforcement officials are pushing back against mounting criticism that they failed to properly investigate the shooter in the Orlando massacre, saying two previous investigations were closed after finding Omar Mateen posed no threat at the time, an official said.

The FBI is only able to continue investigations under certain circumstances, such as when the threat to lives is considered significant, said the official, who asked not to be identified before a news conference by agency Director James Comey.

Law enforcement agencies don’t have the resources and often can’t show a judge probable cause to keep under surveillance the thousands of people that come onto their radar, said the official. In addition, Mateen wasn’t on the government’s no-fly list of people barred from boarding a commercial aircraft into or out of the U.S., according to another official familiar with the matter who asked not to be identified.

The FBI’s decision not to continue an investigation into the 29-year-old shooting suspect despite interviewing him twice due to the lack of evidence to hold him is a troubling fact that is now ratcheting up pressure on U.S. officials to detect lone terrorists without eroding basic civil liberties.

Law enforcement is investigating Sunday’s killing spree at a gay dance club in Orlando, Florida, as an act of terrorism after Mateen killed 49 people using an assault weapon and a handgun. Mateen, who called 9-1-1 as he began the assault to claim allegiance to Islamic State, was killed in a shootout with police.

Since the killings took place, questions have emerged about whether the FBI was thorough enough when it interviewed Mateen. The alleged killer’s former wife said he beat her during the few months they lived together in 2009, the Washington Post reported.

While the U.S. has made progress in countering groups like Islamic State on the ground overseas, technology allows their radical ideology to reach across borders and lure true believers, the socially disaffected or the mentally unstable. Even when a potential terrorism suspect comes to the attention of U.S. law enforcement -- as Mateen did -- there may not be enough evidence, resources or coordination to continue an investigation.

"Law enforcement is following hundreds of people and there are thousands of people that have come on their radar," Shawn Henry, a former FBI executive assistant director, said in an interview. "The complexity of trying to navigate our laws and Constitution while trying to maintain optimal security is a really difficult challenge. You just cannot protect against everything."

The FBI said it interviewed Mateen in 2013 because the agency was told he had made inflammatory remarks about having terrorist ties and again in 2014 because of a connection to an American who went to fight with Islamic State.

"Those interviews turned out to be inconclusive, so there was nothing to keep the investigation going," Ronald Hopper, an FBI assistant special agent in charge of the bureau’s Orlando office, told reporters Sunday.

Senior U.S. national security officials, including Federal Bureau of Investigation Director Comey, have warned for several years about the threat from “lone-wolf” terrorists -- those who become self-radicalized and plot attacks with little notice or resources.

The challenge for intelligence and law enforcement officials, however, is knowing when radical beliefs have crossed the line into action.

Speech, Gun Rights

"The step from just having some extreme views to acting violently is extremely hard to detect from the outside unless that individual is sharing that with others on social media, telephonically, or what have you," said Daniel Benjamin, director of the Dickey Center at Dartmouth College and a former State Department counterterrorism coordinator.

That effort is compounded in a country like the U.S., where free speech and the ability to buy guns are considered fundamental rights. “Just making statements isn’t enough to arrest somebody,” Republican Senator Marco Rubio of Florida, a member of the Intelligence Committee, said on CBS News.

'High-End Attacks'

"The ominous feeling today is that while lone-wolf operators may 99 percent of the time not be capable of complex, high-end attacks on their own, we’ve been reminded of how much damage an assault weapon can do," said Benjamin.

Officials say it is too early to determine what, if any, actual link Mateen had with Islamic State, despite his 9-1-1 call and the group’s announcement claiming credit for the assault. Even as Islamic State has lost territory in Syria, Iraq and Libya, individuals connected or inspired by the group have carried out successful attacks in the past year in Paris, Brussels, San Bernardino, California -- and now perhaps Orlando.

In a video posted on his Facebook page in the aftermath of the shootings, Mateen’s father Seddique Mateen, who in prior posts railed against both Pakistan and Afghanistan’s government, described his son as a good, educated boy who admired and respected his parents.

“I really don’t know what the motive was behind his act and I didn’t know he was so aggressive and angry about gays,” Mateen said. He blamed Pakistan for creating mental illness in Afghan youths, saying it had brought “sorrow, terrorism and deaths” to Afghanistan.

Ramadan Period

Representative Adam Schiff of California, the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, said in a statement that Islamic State leaders have been urging attacks during the Muslim holy period of Ramadan, which started this month. It’s also LGBT Pride month in the U.S., raising additional questions about the attack as a hate crime against the club’s gay clientele.

FBI field offices around the country are constantly evaluating their surveillance operations and what investigations to prioritize, said Henry, the former FBI official who is now president of cybersecurity company CrowdStrike Services.

"The overwhelming numbers and the somewhat limited resources of the FBI do not allow them to track everybody all the time," Henry said.

The attack also points to another troubling aspect in the fight against extremism.

Seizing Territory

Early on, Islamic State was viewed as less of a direct threat to the U.S. and Europe than other groups such as al-Qaeda because it was focused on seizing territory for its claimed caliphate. But Islamic State should be seen as both an insurgency -- which is struggling to hold on to its territory -- and as a global terrorist organization, which is recording successes, said Charlie Winter, a senior research associate at Georgia State University who studies transnational jihadist movements and insurgencies.

In terms of its ability to inspire attacks, Islamic State "looks more powerful than it has before," Winter said in a phone interview from Atlanta.

One of the main unanswered questions now is whether the FBI informed local police officers in Florida so they could have kept tabs on Mateen, said Representative Peter King, a New York Republican who serves on the House Intelligence and Homeland Security committees.

"Often one incident by itself doesn’t mean anything," King said. "I hope that it turns out the FBI did share that information with the local police. If not, then that would definitely be a problem."

Coordination between the FBI and local police about suspects should have been learned from the Boston Marathon bombing in 2013, King said. Deceased bomber Tamerlan Tsarnaev came to the attention of the FBI before the attack, but that case was also closed and the information wasn’t shared with local authorities, King said.

Stopping lone-wolf attacks in the U.S. is "extremely difficult" because law enforcement and intelligence officials are limited by laws in terms of how much internet surveillance they can do of suspects, as well as by the resources they have, King said.

"In many ways it’s searching for a needle in the haystack," King said. "The FBI doesn’t have the personnel to keep tabs on everybody."

 

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I thought ISIS was merely the Junior Varsity. Obama told us that.

Now we learn it is "too hard" for the FBI to Keep America Safe. They say right here, they can't do it.

Need better people, better policies, and better results at the very top, not a 3rd term for Obama/Hillary.

It puzzles me immensely why his parents were admitted. Why does America need such persons? A great many muslim immigrants go on public assistance, and remain unemployed, same as in Europe.

Is it rational to admit these people at all? Especially if it is "Too Hard" to screen them.




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I thought ISIS was merely the Junior Varsity. Obama told us that.

Now we learn it is "too hard" for the FBI to Keep America Safe. They say right here, they can't do it.

Need better people, better policies, and better results at the very top, not a 3rd term for Obama/Hillary.

It puzzles me immensely why his parents were admitted. Why does America need such persons? A great many muslim immigrants go on public assistance, and remain unemployed, same as in Europe.

Is it rational to admit these people at all? Especially if it is "Too Hard" to screen them.

His parents came in when we were helping Afghanistan fight the Russians under Reagan.  So the country was very sympathetic to Afghanis. 

So, you don't want Mexicans, or Muslims.  Anybody else you want to exclude from what you're trying to fashion into paradise?

Some people I once respected on this site (I'm speaking of you, t_s) have turned into rabid dogs in defense of Big Orange. 

They've adopted reactionary, angry, positively hateful attitudes toward other people. All in support of an ignorant bully.

To paraphrase Thomas More in "A Man for all Seasons",  "It profits a man nothing to give up his soul for the world, so why would you give it up for Trump?"
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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I was listening to Mark Steyn fill in for Rush today when the program was rudely interrupted by the FBI news conference.
The FBI spokesman had just started his remarks when I clearly heard him say, "ISIL". Now I realize Obama and his sycophants prefer to call them that rather than ISIS, for their own disingenuous reasons, but I hadn't thought they could have gone as far as the FBI. Now I know. Shame on the FBI.
Justin Trudeau and Barack Obama say "ISIL". The rest of the world says "ISIS". Hmmm ...

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I call BS on the pansy lame claim that there was nothing they could do- They sure found something 'to do' when it came to  the MURDER of Lavoy Finicum in Oregon for NOTHING- In fact, they MURDERED him and tried to MURDER everyone in the vehicle as he was driving ot meet with the sheriff for crying out loud! But by golly the FBI just couldn't do anything to stop someone they KNEW to be dangerous and possible terrorists like omar or whatever the hell his name was? BS BS BS!
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I am a consistent strong national security Republican/conservative. I stated that the piss poor results are due to bad leadership at the top (Obama/Hillary), bad rules and bad execution.

For that I am called a rabid dog, since I oppose the naive #nevertgrump position, only recently made so popular here by way of a massive recruitment.

I will just go on being that rabid dog, since I hate seeing my fellow Americans die, because of our inept security forces (Obama, Hillary), and political correctness.

Make America Safe Again. This is NOT a high enough priority for Obama and Hillary, or they would quit the political correctness, urge changing the rules, and start saving lives.

Our military have been forced to use unacceptable "rules of engagement" and other security forces have unreasonable hurdles, to take these terrorists out of action as well.

Over and over, they have them in their watchful eyes, and then must let them go free, only to then have them kill dozens of Americans.

That may be an acceptable risk for a #nevertrump, but not for this rabid dog.
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