Donald Trump, a true conservative leader.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Oh bull.  The similarities between Barnum and Trump are clear and obvious. 

No they're not.  Apparently only you and a handful of "others" see it. 

But getting back to your original point.  You said Trump was as conservative as Barnum.  So ... tell me how so.  How do Trump's proposed policies compare with Barnum's?  Surely you've thought this through; so why not share your findings.   

[Bigun]

I have concluded that arguing with Trump zealots is akin to administering medicine to the dead so I  no longer do that.

The simple fact is that there is nothing conservative about Donal J. Trump and there never has been.

[Oceander]

I have concluded that arguing with Trump zealots is akin to administering medicine to the dead so I  no longer do that.

The simple fact is that there is nothing conservative about Donal J. Trump and there never has been.

So true.

[Oceander]

No they're not.  Apparently only you and a handful of "others" see it. 

But getting back to your original point.  You said Trump was as conservative as Barnum.  So ... tell me how so.  How do Trump's proposed policies compare with Barnum's?  Surely you've thought this through; so why not share your findings.   

What policies would that be?  Racism?  Trade wars? Isolationism?

[sinkspur]

So true.

I am •ess•
‏@TheEss
@jpodhoretz

.Get with the program, John... Don King specifically denied having endorsed Trump, which means even if he did, he now does NOT.


Trump said yesterday that Don King endorsed him.  Why would anybody lie about being endorsed by Don King?  What a friggin' psycho!!

[Doug Loss]

No they're not.  Apparently only you and a handful of "others" see it. 

But getting back to your original point.  You said Trump was as conservative as Barnum.  So ... tell me how so.  How do Trump's proposed policies compare with Barnum's?  Surely you've thought this through; so why not share your findings.   

The "handful of others" include most of the conservative sites on the internet (a selection):

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/421074/trump-unhappy-warrior-woos-angry-voters-telling-them-what-they-want-hear-john-fund
http://www.wnd.com/2015/07/trump-the-modern-day-p-t-barnum/
http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax-Tv/John-Fund-Donal-Trump-P-TBarnum-take/2015/07/06/id/653717/

in addition, the NY Daily News could see the similarities:

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/election/donald-trump-embraces-comparisons-p-t-barnum-article-1.2491619

[XenaLee]

Trump’s tax plan is well to the right even of the Bush tax cuts.
And according to studies would increase the deficit by at least $10 trillion.  Not a conservative value

Trump’s proposed list of judicial nominees are universally more conservative and more qualified than Miers was.

And Trump has said his pick may not come from that list.  So why publicize it?


These strategies have always worked for him before, and floating off into some intellectual ideal-system-design effort has never worked for him before. So when he says that he’s going to solve Medicare by hiring great managers and knowing all the right people, I don’t think this is some vapid way of avoiding the question. I think it’s the honest output of a mind that works very differently from mine.

It's the answer of a man who hasn't a clue how to address the problem.

Not only that, but......  if Trump was so great at hiring and knowing all the right/great people.... then why has he had so many dismal failures in his business career?  Trump U is just one in a long list of Trump failures, not to mention the need for those four bankruptcies.  Sounds like a BSer to me.

[geronl]

Trump said yesterday that Don King endorsed him.  Why would anybody lie about being endorsed by Don King?  What a friggin' psycho!!

 

[Mesaclone]

Aligncare IS one of the classiest posters on this site. She has not changed an iota. But she is not blind to the childish anger, the shallow and petty arguments, and the personal attacks made against the pro-Trump board members ad nauseum. While we are happy to take the abuse...she has every right to note which side is acting in an immature and anti-GOP manner, and who is not. She is the closest thing you'll find to an objective observer in an argument like this, and her verdict is one that someone like Musiclady should take to heart...you get upset that Align credits some of us for taking this petty abuse with dignity...while all the while you are joining in with the NeverTrump tantrum that is doing nothing but hurting the conservative and GOP movements. Why you would be shocked over Align simply calling things what they are, is an ode to the blinders you are wearing on this topic...not a suggestion that Align has changed in any way.

I'm an old soldier, so I can take punches all day long. But leave her out of your petty recriminations and angry retorts...try being as classy about this as Align is.

[INVAR]

Now, now.  Reagan had two.  Levin has had two.  And Rush has had four.   

Please.

None of those men (to my knowledge) has BRAGGED about bedding other men's wives and having no personal problem with Adultery.  Trump HAS bragged about bedding other men's wives and all the women he would like to bed.

Not exactly a Conservative mindset.

More of a Democrat mindset since that kind of thing is a resume enhancer for Leftists.

[INVAR]

Psalm 21
11
Though they plot evil against you
    and devise wicked schemes, they cannot succeed.
12
You will make them turn their backs
    when you aim at them with drawn bow.

Psalm 18
To the faithful you show yourself faithful,
    to the blameless you show yourself blameless,
26
to the pure you show yourself pure,
    but to the devious you show yourself shrewd.
27
You save the humble
    but bring low those whose eyes are haughty.
28
You, Lord, keep my lamp burning;
    my God turns my darkness into light.
29
With your help I can advance against a troop[e];
    with my God I can scale a wall.

Psalm 22:28
for dominion belongs to the Lord
    and he rules over the nations.

Psalm 12:8
The wicked prowl on every side,
When vileness is exalted among the sons of men.

Thank you for bringing this discussion to the CORE of what constitutes Conservatism in the minds of those who claim to hold those principles.

And those who do not.

[Wingnut]

Aligncare IS one of the classiest posters on this site. She has not changed an iota. But she is not blind to the childish anger, the shallow and petty arguments, and the personal attacks made against the pro-Trump board members ad nauseum. While we are happy to take the abuse...she has every right to note which side is acting in an immature and anti-GOP manner, and who is not. She is the closest thing you'll find to an objective observer in an argument like this,

I don't know what lens you're using, but it desperately needs cleaning.

Seriously and Mescoline might want to get some new glasses too.  I guess he thinks the Dude looks like a lady? 

[sinkspur]

Aligncare IS one of the classiest posters on this site. She has not changed an iota. But she is not blind to the childish anger, the shallow and petty arguments, and the personal attacks made against the pro-Trump board members ad nauseum. While we are happy to take the abuse...she has every right to note which side is acting in an immature and anti-GOP manner, and who is not. She is the closest thing you'll find to an objective observer in an argument like this, and her verdict is one that someone like Musiclady should take to heart...you get upset that Align credits some of us for taking this petty abuse with dignity...while all the while you are joining in with the NeverTrump tantrum that is doing nothing but hurting the conservative and GOP movements. Why you would be shocked over Align simply calling things what they are, is an ode to the blinders you are wearing on this topic...not a suggestion that Align has changed in any way.

I'm an old soldier, so I can take punches all day long. But leave her out of your petty recriminations and angry retorts...try being as classy about this as Align is.

You dish it out, you take it.  That's the way it works.

And there is no abuse.  There are Trump's words and Trump's history.  The man indicts himself. 

I'll just share this here:

[Timber Rattler]

 

[Timber Rattler]

Aligncare IS one of the classiest posters on this site. She has not changed an iota. But she is not blind to the childish anger, the shallow and petty arguments, and the personal attacks made against the pro-Trump board members ad nauseum. While we are happy to take the abuse...she has every right to note which side is acting in an immature and anti-GOP manner, and who is not. She is the closest thing you'll find to an objective observer in an argument like this, and her verdict is one that someone like Musiclady should take to heart...you get upset that Align credits some of us for taking this petty abuse with dignity...while all the while you are joining in with the NeverTrump tantrum that is doing nothing but hurting the conservative and GOP movements. Why you would be shocked over Align simply calling things what they are, is an ode to the blinders you are wearing on this topic...not a suggestion that Align has changed in any way.

I'm an old soldier, so I can take punches all day long. But leave her out of your petty recriminations and angry retorts...try being as classy about this as Align is.

Oh, so that's why she went over to TOS on Thursday and trashed TBR?

Yeah, real classy all right.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Please.

None of those men (to my knowledge) has BRAGGED about bedding other men's wives and having no personal problem with Adultery.  Trump HAS bragged about bedding other men's wives and all the women he would like to bed.

Well...I've grown used to the depth of your knowledge --- and will leave it there.

But, the post was about multiple marriages not be "conservative" --- and I simply filled in the knowledge gaps on Reagan and Levin and Limbaugh.   

[Hoodat]

I'd rather lose with integrity than win with a loser like Trump.  .  .  .

I'll trust in God for our future, not the Republican Party or Donald Trump.

Amen, amen, and amen!

[sinkspur]

Trump has accomplished something Obama never could have accomplished on his own:


Fun fact: Obama's net job approval has risen by 19 points since Trump became the Republican frontrunner last July.

[musiclady]

It's easy to be gracious and classy until one's messiah is involved. When I was deployed to Iraq, I came across many Muslims who were among the nicest people I had ever met. But I knew that if I said the slightest cross thing about their religion, they'd have been first in line to cut my head off.

People don't change their personalities, but they do reveal them when given the proper stimuli.

That's a valid point.

Perhaps what I have observed as a change of personality....... from classy and gracious to basically calling his friends "sewer" dwellers....... may just be a revelation of what was there to begin with.

I just never saw it until recently, and it really is disturbing.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Oh, so that's why she went over to TOS on Thursday and trashed TBR?

Yeah, real classy all right.

OMG!  You ventured to "TOS"?  Good.  You must be healing
.
@aligncare

[Bigun]

Oh, so that's why she went over to TOS on Thursday and trashed TBR?

Yeah, real classy all right.

He ain't no she.

[musiclady]

Oh, so that's why she went over to TOS on Thursday and trashed TBR?

Yeah, real classy all right.

Trashed to the extreme.  Some of the nastiest words I've ever seen about some of the finest people I've ever encountered on the Internet.

Nasty, nasty, nasty......... and NO excuse for it.

btw, a_c is a he, not a she.

[Right_in_Virginia]

Aligncare IS one of the classiest posters on this site. She has not changed an iota. But she is not blind to the childish anger, the shallow and petty arguments, and the personal attacks made against the pro-Trump board members ad nauseum. While we are happy to take the abuse...she has every right to note which side is acting in an immature and anti-GOP manner, and who is not. She is the closest thing you'll find to an objective observer in an argument like this, and her verdict is one that someone like Musiclady should take to heart...you get upset that Align credits some of us for taking this petty abuse with dignity...while all the while you are joining in with the NeverTrump tantrum that is doing nothing but hurting the conservative and GOP movements. Why you would be shocked over Align simply calling things what they are, is an ode to the blinders you are wearing on this topic...not a suggestion that Align has changed in any way.

I'm an old soldier, so I can take punches all day long. But leave her out of your petty recriminations and angry retorts...try being as classy about this as Align is.

I agree @ Mesaclone.   @aligncare is one of the best --- he is intelligent, thoughtful, witty and slow to anger---and a valuable asset to this forum.

[Oceander]

Aligncare IS one of the classiest posters on this site. She has not changed an iota. But she is not blind to the childish anger, the shallow and petty arguments, and the personal attacks made against the pro-Trump board members ad nauseum. While we are happy to take the abuse...she has every right to note which side is acting in an immature and anti-GOP manner, and who is not. She is the closest thing you'll find to an objective observer in an argument like this, and her verdict is one that someone like Musiclady should take to heart...you get upset that Align credits some of us for taking this petty abuse with dignity...while all the while you are joining in with the NeverTrump tantrum that is doing nothing but hurting the conservative and GOP movements. Why you would be shocked over Align simply calling things what they are, is an ode to the blinders you are wearing on this topic...not a suggestion that Align has changed in any way.

I'm an old soldier, so I can take punches all day long. But leave her out of your petty recriminations and angry retorts...try being as classy about this as Align is.

She is a he.  Unless he's gone and pulled a "Caitlyn".

[Oceander]

I agree @ Mesaclone.   @aligncare is one of the best --- he is intelligent, thoughtful, witty and slow to anger---and a valuable asset to this forum.

Wow do you not pay attention to anything.