Trump says US allies should pay in full for military protection

[RoosGirl]

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-says-us-allies-should-pay-in-full-for-military-protection/ar-BBtTjzQ

WASHINGTON — Donald Trump, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee, said U.S. allies including Japan, Germany and Saudi Arabia should be compelled to pay in full for American military protection.

“We’re providing a tremendous service,” Trump said in a recorded interview shown on CBB. The U.S. “is stone cold broke,” he said.

Asked about statements that seemed to support a nuclear-armed Japan as a deterrent to potential North Korean or Chinese aggression, Trump said that while the U.S. is bound to defend Japan in the event of an attack, the reverse isn’t true.

“That’s up to them,” Trump said, adding that the U.S. had to be prepared to walk away from agreements that are costing it billions of dollars. Reminded that he was talking about major U.S. allies, Trump said “it has to work both ways.”

Trump also responded to Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton’s description of him as temperamentally unfit for the presidency.

“You can’t have that success without good temperament,” the Republican said, citing his success in real estate development, television and, now, politics. “I have a temperament that is totally under control.”

Asked about remarks he made about the Mexican ethnicity of a federal judge overseeing a lawsuit against the former Trump University, Gonzalo Curiel.

The candidate has said the lawsuit is without merit, said it lives on only because of Curiel’s Mexican heritage. His comments have drawn criticism from legal scholars and from Republicans including House Speaker Paul Ryan and Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich said on “Fox News Sunday” that going after Curiel was “inexcusable.” Clinton said Saturday that “Judge Curiel is as much of an American as I am. And he’s as much of an American as Donald Trump is.”

[geronl]

He also suggested a nuclear war in Asia would be good

[RoosGirl]

This is a short story, but they crammed it full of every current Trump topic.  I was more curious about our allies paying for military protection.  It brings some questions to mind:  Does that mean the US military will become mercenaries?  Does our military become for sale to anyone for the right price?

[Mechanicos]

This is a short story, but they crammed it full of every current Trump topic.  I was more curious about our allies paying for military protection.  It brings some questions to mind:  Does that mean the US military will become mercenaries?  Does our military become for sale to anyone for the right price?

Another way to look at it is in the not too far Future with 20 trillion in Debt and almost negative GDP with no foreseeable growth that we will not be providing any security to them because we will be broke. So making it fair aka they pay for it instead of building their own would seem a compromise. some cost now or massive cost in the future.

An interesting theory I have seen is that by making the security dependent countries use a portion of their GDP to pay for their own security that will result in the helping eliminate the growing socialism since they will not have the excess from not protecting themselves to use to create the super rich ruling class buying compliance with freebies.

[RoosGirl]

Another way to look at it is in the not too far Future with 20 trillion in Debt and almost negative GDP with no foreseeable growth that we will not be providing any security to them because we will be broke. So making it fair aka they pay for it instead of building their own would seem a compromise. some cost now or massive cost in the future.

Yes, I can see that side of it.  And if you could rely on ethical politicians (hahaha) then it might be fine.  The problem I see though is the problem we have with the GOP now; they don't care about expanded gov't, they like it.  They just want to be the ones in control of it instead of the dems. 

An interesting theory I have seen is that by making the security dependent countries use a portion of their GDP to pay for their own security that will result in the helping eliminate the growing socialism since they will not have the excess from not protecting themselves to use to create the super rich ruling class buying compliance with freebies.

Oh, well, that's interesting all right.  Would be nice if they all had a little more skin in the game, so to speak.

[Right_in_Virginia]

“We’re providing a tremendous service,” Trump said in a recorded interview shown on CBB. The U.S. “is stone cold broke,” he said.

Impossible to argue with.   

[sinkspur]

“We’re providing a tremendous service,” Trump said in a recorded interview shown on CBB. The U.S. “is stone cold broke,” he said.

Then why is Trump proposing a $10 trillion tax cut? 

We have treaties in place all over the world that have protected the peace for 70 years.  Trump wants to throw those aside in return for a few pennies from long-time allies. 

This has nothing to do with Japan paying its way.  It has to do with Trump's nationalism and xenophobia.  He is appealing to the tribalistic instincts of his rabid supporters, who hate all those brown, yellow, other-language-speaking furriners.

Trump doesn't give a damn about the money.  He cares about us versus them.  It's what his campaign is built on.

Everything that comes out of his mouth is we against they.  He actually wants to create new enemies so he can demonize them.

The man is a narcissistic sociopath and has no business being the nominee.  But the dopey Republican voters who put him there will have to live with higher prices on all that imported stuff from China, Mexico, India, and all the countries he would target.

[Mechanicos]

Then why is Trump proposing a $10 trillion tax cut? 

A conservative would not ask such a question, its called economics.

We have treaties in place all over the world that have protected the peace for 70 years.  Trump wants to throw those aside in return for a few pennies from long-time allies. 

What peace? We are on the edge of WW3 and unable to fight it.

This has nothing to do with Japan paying its way.  It has to do with Trump's nationalism and xenophobia.  He is appealing to the tribalistic instincts of his rabid supporters, who hate all those brown, yellow, other-language-speaking furriners.

This is garbage, they know they been getting a free ride and can afford it. If we do not do it they are going to be SOL since we will be bankrupt and no longer able to protect them. At least this way they avoid the sudden cost of the loss of military protection while China wants to destroy them.

Trump doesn't give a damn about the money.  He cares about us versus them.  It's what his campaign is built on.

Everything that comes out of his mouth is we against they.  He actually wants to create new enemies so he can demonize them.

Total garbage. all but for he does not need money.

The man is a narcissistic sociopath and has no business being the nominee.  But the dopey Republican voters who put him there will have to live with higher prices on all that imported stuff from China, Mexico, India, and all the countries he would target.

Talking points memo cut and past detected. The alternative in Venezuela in our life times

[RedHead]

Another way to look at it is in the not too far Future with 20 trillion in Debt and almost negative GDP with no foreseeable growth that we will not be providing any security to them because we will be broke.

How do you get to a negative GDP?

So making it fair aka they pay for it instead of building their own would seem a compromise. some cost now or massive cost in the future.

Or they come to the very valid conclusion that the United States under President Trump is running a protection racket and cannot be trusted to be there for them should the need arise.  So they will be forced to become closer to China or Russia and not

An interesting theory I have seen is that by making the security dependent countries use a portion of their GDP to pay for their own security that will result in the helping eliminate the growing socialism since they will not have the excess from not protecting themselves to use to create the super rich ruling class buying compliance with freebies.

A more interesting theory is that Trump has absolutely no clue on how to manage the foreign relations of this country.

[Right_in_Virginia]

How do you get to a negative GDP?

Negative GDP is a contraction in a country's economy, as evidenced by a decrease in its gross domestic product (GDP) during any quarter of a given year. It is considered negative growth.  Two quarters of negative growth (contraction) is considered a recession.

[RedHead]

A conservative would not ask such a question, its called economics.

An economist would look at the $10 trillion addition to the deficit and call it what it is - sheer idiocy.  But why should it be different from any other Trump scheme?

What peace? We are on the edge of WW3 and unable to fight it.

And this will help us fight it how?

This is garbage, they know they been getting a free ride and can afford it. If we do not do it they are going to be SOL since we will be bankrupt and no longer able to protect them. At least this way they avoid the sudden cost of the loss of military protection while China wants to destroy them.

Since they can't trust the U.S. then why wouldn't they turn to China?

[RedHead]

Negative GDP is a contraction in a country's economy, as evidenced by a decrease in its gross domestic product (GDP) during any quarter of a given year. It is considered negative growth.  Two quarters of negative growth (contraction) is considered a recession.

Negative growth is one thing.  But the GDP is the sum monetary value of all the goods and services produced by the economy.  A negative GDP means you are producing nothing and still consuming.

[RedHead]

Impossible to argue with.   

If we're broke then where it the money for the increase in defense spending that Trump is advocating going to come from?

[Mechanicos]

How do you get to a negative GDP?

Keep doing the same things as Venezuela. 

Or they come to the very valid conclusion that the United States under President Trump is running a protection racket and cannot be trusted to be there for them should the need arise.  So they will be forced to become closer to China or Russia and not

That's who they will want protection from.

A more interesting theory is that Trump has absolutely no clue on how to manage the foreign relations of this country.

Hes already proven to be better at the big picture then the experts is more then one area so far.. Example NATO being obsolete confirmed by experts.

[Formerly Once-Ler]

el ¡Soopèr! ن ‏@SooperMexican 2h2 hours ago

"How did the Japanese Empire gets nukes again?"
Well son, President Trump wanted to save cash.
"You mean impeached Trump?"
That's the one.

[RedHead]

Keep doing the same things as Venezuela. 

You really have no clue about what you are talking about, do you?

That's who they will want protection from.

And if they can no longer count on the U.S. then what choice do they have but to move closer to China and Russia?

Hes already proven to be better at the big picture then the experts is more then one area so far.. Example NATO being obsolete confirmed by experts.

ROTFLMAO!!!!!!

[txradioguy]

Impossible to argue with.   

Oh really?  Trump seems to want to argue with himself.

“First of all, you never have to default because you print the money,” Mr. Trump said in a telephone interview with CNN that was reported on by Politico.

http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2016/05/09/donald-trump-says-the-u-s-will-never-default-because-it-prints-the-money/


Trump has no clue just how much the countries that house U.S. Army units actually do pony up from their own coffers to have us here.

What Trump wants to do is turn us into paid mercenaries available to fight for the highest bidder.  In which case no one will come to us for aid ever again.

[RoosGirl]

 
That's who they will want protection from.

@Mechanicos
@RedHead

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