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https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2016/06/03/the-media-have-reached-a-turning-point-in-covering-donald-trump-he-may-not-survive-it/

The media have reached a turning point in covering Donald Trump. He may not survive it.

By Paul Waldman

 June 3

The news media have come in for a lot of criticism in the way they’ve reported this election, which makes it exactly like every other election. But something may have changed just in the last few days. I have no idea how meaningful it will turn out to be or how long it will last.

But it’s possible that when we look back over the sweep of this most unusual campaign, we’ll mark this week as a significant turning point: the time when journalists finally figured out how to cover Donald Trump.

They didn’t do it by coming up with some new model of coverage, or putting aside what they were taught in journalism school. They’re doing it by rediscovering the fundamental values and norms that are supposed to guide their profession. (And for the record, even though I’m part of “the media” I’m speaking in the third person here because I’m an opinion writer, and this is about the reporters whose job it is to objectively relay the events of the day).

If this evolution in coverage takes hold, we can trace it to the combined effect of a few events and developments happening in a short amount of time. The first was Trump’s press conference on Tuesday, the ostensible purpose of which was to answer questions about a fundraiser he held in January to raise money for veterans’ groups. In the course of the press conference, Trump was at his petulant, abusive worst, attacking reporters in general and those in the room. “The political press is among the most dishonest people that I’ve ever met,” he said, saying to one journalist who had asked a perfectly reasonable question, “You’re a sleaze.” These kinds of criticisms are not new — anyone who has reported a Trump rally can tell you how Trump always tosses some insults at the press, at which point his supporters turn around and hurl their own abuse at those covering the event — but Trump seemed particularly angry and unsettled.

To see how the press looked at that revealing event, it’s critical to understand what led to it. It happened because the Post’s David Fahrenthold and some other reporters did what journalists are supposed to do. They raised questions about Trump’s fundraiser, and when they didn’t get adequate answers, they investigated, gathered facts, and asked more questions.

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he raised $6 million for veterans groups at a January fundraiser. The Washington Post's accounting, based on interviews with charities, only found $3.1 million in donations to veterans groups. In addition, almost four months after promising $1 million of his own money to veterans' causes, Trump moved to fulfill that pledge. (McKenna Ewen/The Washington Post)
It was excellent work — time-consuming, difficult, and ultimately paying dividends in public understanding. And Trump’s attack on them for doing their jobs the way those jobs are supposed to be done couldn’t have been better designed to get every other journalist to want to do the same. They’re no different than anyone else: When you make a direct attack on their professionalism, they’re likely to react by reaching back to their profession’s core values to demonstrate that they can live up to them. Trump may have wanted to intimidate them, but it’s likely to have the opposite effect.

The same day as the press conference, a trove of documents from Trump University was released as part of a class-action lawsuit accusing Trump of fraud. The documents revealed allegations as to just what a scam that enterprise was: high-pressure sales tactics, nothing resembling knowledge being imparted to the “students,” people in financial trouble preyed upon and told to max out their credit cards to pay for more seminars and courses. Some of Trump’s other schemes may have been comical, but as far as we know nobody was victimized too terribly by buying a Trump Steak or a bottle of Trump Vodka. Trump University is something entirely different, and it’s not over yet; questions are now being raised about an investigation the Texas Attorney General’s office undertook of Trump University, which concluded that it was cheating Texans out of large sums of money; the investigation was dropped by then-AG Greg Abbott, who later got $35,000 in contributions from Trump and is now the state’s governor.

Plenty of presidential candidates have had shady doings in their pasts, but can you think of anything that compares to Trump University? A party’s nominee allegedly running a con not just on unsuspecting victims, but on victims specifically chosen for their vulnerability and desperation? It’s no wonder that you can’t find any Republicans who’ll defend it, in a time when ordinarily you can get a partisan hack to justify almost anything their party’s leader is doing or has done.

Then you had Trump’s continued attacks on the judge presiding over that fraud case. It’s unusual enough for a presidential candidate to be publicly attacking a judge in a case he’s involved in, but what’s most appalling is the blatant bigotry at the basis of Trump’s criticisms. First Trump would simply say that in addition to being biased against him the judge is “Mexican” (which is false — the judge was born in Indiana). Now Trump says that because the judge is “of Mexican heritage” he should be removed from the case. “I’m building a wall. It’s an inherent conflict of interest,” he says. Given all the other demographic groups Trump has insulted and offended, the natural conclusion would seem to be that only white male judges are fit to preside over Trump’s many, many lawsuits.
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More Washington Compost Trump hit squad stuff

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Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

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Trump loves to do interviews, but if he continues to get cornered like he did by John Dickerson this morning and Jake Tapper on Friday, he may stop doing interviews.  They boxed him in and got him to embarrass himself in his lack of knowledge, by flip-flopping on Libya, and expressing outright racism against a sitting Federal judge.

If Trump doesn't have the press, what does he have?  He's got no money for ads right now.  After Tuesday, no more rallies until after the Convention.  Plenty of time for him to be hammered by Democrats who are flush with cash and anxious to pound him.
Roy Moore's "spiritual warfare" is driving past a junior high without stopping.

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Trump plans to drain the RNC dry and leave little to nothing for the Congressional candidates. They will shackled to this moron.

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The media did not create Trump, so destroying him the way they would someone they built up is going to be harder.   However, the media did give him free air time to take his campaign where it was never going to go since Trump reneged on his statements he was going to self-fund his campaign.  It was mutually masturbatory for both Trump and the media for big ratings, but now that the ratings are not what they were - I imagine the media will decide to fall back on their normal propaganda excepting coverage of his tantrums and rantings for negative effects to cover for Hildabeast's nasty shrillness.

I think Trump will do what The Mao Pantsuit does, and only do "interviews' that are pre-approved and scripted if he does them at all.

The only problem is that Trump lives off of and adores all the attention.  He can't function without it, same as all narcissists with egos as large as his.
Fart for freedom, fart for liberty and fart proudly.  - Benjamin Franklin

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My opinion is that Trump thrives on chaos. Once the Dem primary winds down and we have our convention Trump will have nothing to do but keep putting his foot in his big mouth. A lot of his success will come from his opponents, really. If they keep attacking Trump supporters Trump may very well win. But without that constant chaos his unsuitability for office will be exposed.

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Trump loves to do interviews, but if he continues to get cornered like he did by John Dickerson this morning and Jake Tapper on Friday, he may stop doing interviews.  They boxed him in and got him to embarrass himself in his lack of knowledge, by flip-flopping on Libya, and expressing outright racism against a sitting Federal judge.

If Trump doesn't have the press, what does he have?  He's got no money for ads right now.  After Tuesday, no more rallies until after the Convention.  Plenty of time for him to be hammered by Democrats who are flush with cash and anxious to pound him.
I saw the interview and it was discussed on TOS, Trump did great. Don't know where you think it did any harm. Look at how people are turning against the federal judge even on here.

And he will always have the press, he makes them money. Plus he can get around their control of information. Really there is nothing here that will damage him.
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My opinion is that Trump thrives on chaos. Once the Dem primary winds down and we have our convention Trump will have nothing to do but keep putting his foot in his big mouth. A lot of his success will come from his opponents, really. If they keep attacking Trump supporters Trump may very well win. But without that constant chaos his unsuitability for office will be exposed.

I agree. Trump has appeared at a loss since the last of his opponents left the campaign trail. His behavior, flip-flops, continued insults reveal his lack of character and preparation for the highest office in the land. I am looking for the first  of his GOPe supporters to save their political viability and get off the Trump Train Wreck. More will follow.
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I agree. Trump has appeared at a loss since the last of his opponents left the campaign trail. His behavior, flip-flops, continued insults reveal his lack of character and preparation for the highest office in the land. I am looking for the first  of his GOPe supporters to save their political viability and get off the Trump Train Wreck. More will follow.
He has the Media, Democrats and other adversaries to fight with. Even if they all stop saying bad things he wins. If they go silent he does rallies and alt media takes over, if they attack him he wins.
Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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He has the Media, Democrats and other adversaries to fight with. Even if they all stop saying bad things he wins. If they go silent he does rallies and alt media takes over, if they attack him he wins.

The Orange Asherah can do no wrong in your eyes. Amazing to behold such a level of idol worship.
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Trump is still attacking Republicans and making the most outrageous statements every day. The media is turning against him as predicted. I don't think he will survive until the convention at this rate. It seems that Manafort has had no success in trying to get him to be more presidential.  **nononono*
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More Washington Compost Trump hit squad stuff

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What parts are false?

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Trump loves to do interviews, but if he continues to get cornered like he did by John Dickerson this morning and Jake Tapper on Friday, he may stop doing interviews.  They boxed him in and got him to embarrass himself in his lack of knowledge, by flip-flopping on Libya, and expressing outright racism against a sitting Federal judge.

If Trump doesn't have the press, what does he have?  He's got no money for ads right now.  After Tuesday, no more rallies until after the Convention.  Plenty of time for him to be hammered by Democrats who are flush with cash and anxious to pound him.

Trump's not smart enough to stop doing interviews.

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Trump is still attacking Republicans and making the most outrageous statements every day. The media is turning against him as predicted. I don't think he will survive until the convention at this rate. It seems that Manafort has had no success in trying to get him to be more presidential.  **nononono*

The way Trump looks at it: Trump got as far as he did by being Trump: saying outlandish outrageous things, being bombastic, never apologizing. However, once the campaign goes into a new phase, Trump will only survive by showing he can "be presidential".

Only thing that will save him is anti-Trump protest IMO, as they saved him throughout the GOP primary.

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The Orange Asherah can do no wrong in your eyes. Amazing to behold such a level of idol worship.
Its not worship. Its commonsense based on his past performance - the best predictor of future performance.

Trump is for America First.
"Crooked Hillary Clinton is the Secretary of the Status Quo – and wherever Hillary Clinton goes, corruption and scandal follow." D. Trump 7/11/16

Did you know that the word ‘gullible’ is not in the dictionary?

Isaiah 54:17

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Its not worship. Its commonsense based on his past performance - the best predictor of future performance.

It's idolatry, don't kid yourself.

The amount of apologizing and ridiculous spin you perform on every single item that might be construed as a negative for this vulgar thin-skinned blowhard is matched only by an irrational faith in a man that believes he alone is going to save the country.

And that is idolatry, both biblically and in context of a representative republic was supposed to be.
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...Obsta principiis—Nip the shoots of arbitrary power in the bud, is the only maxim which can ever preserve the liberties of any people. When the people give way, their deceivers, betrayers and destroyers press upon them so fast that there is no resisting afterwards. The nature of the encroachment upon [the] American constitution is such, as to grow every day more and more encroaching. Like a cancer, it eats faster and faster every hour." - John Adams, February 6, 1775

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I saw the interview and it was discussed on TOS, Trump did great.

Of course everyone on TOS thinks Trump did great.  Expressing anything but blind faith in Trump and his actions is the quickest way to banishment.

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Its not worship. Its commonsense based on his past performance - the best predictor of future performance.

And yet you repeatedly trash anyone who points out that, for a 70 year old liberal democrat, past behavior is the best predictor of future behavior.  Amazing.

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More Washington Compost Trump hit squad stuff

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It's a typical trumpeter tactic used extensively on Free Republic to blame the source or the media without bothering to comment on any of the accusations contained in the article.

Point:  Trump was testy and childish in the press conference ... you might call that fighting back at the media but normal folks call it test and childish.

Point:  Trump revealed how low he can go in deriding perceived enemies by calling the Judge in his Trump U case a Mexican.  He did that.  It can't be denied.

Point:  The Trump University scheme was incredibly low.  I hate that a so-called millionaire would want to grub for a few thousands more by cheating foolish but innocent people.  Trump has been known to threaten 'students' who complained and he's currently demonizing the judge in the case.

What say you to any of these points besides blaming it on the Washington Post?
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