BREAKING: Kristol Eyes Conservative Lawyer David French for Independent Presidential Run

[aligncare]

While he was working for the State of TX as a lawyer. Trump has never held a position like that. He's in the business of making money for his shareholders.

Pardon my interruption, but there are no shareholders. The Trump Organization is a private corporation. Carry on.

[sinkspur]

While he was working for the State of TX as a lawyer. Trump has never held a position like that. He's in the business of making money for his shareholders.

Trump has no shareholders.  His businesses are all private and owned by him.

[jmyrlefuller]

Pardon my interruption, but there are no shareholders. The Trump Organization is a private corporation. Carry on.

Every corporation, private or public, has shareholders. Come on.

[sinkspur]

Every corporation, private or public, has shareholders. Come on.

Not necessarily.  You think Trump would answer to anybody?   

If he had shareholders, they'd have run his ass off years ago.

[aligncare]

I've looked and found nothing.  I've asked here and no Trump supporter has been able to answer the question; what conservative and/or republican cause has Trump consistently championed over the last 5 years?  There are some pretty hard core Trump people here, if they can't answer then who can?  If they can't answer I have to presume the answer is "There aren't any."  I am genuinely interested in having an honest answer to the question.  Any answer I have gotten in some rehash of the nonsense on the Trump campaign website.

I'm sorry, but we're long past time when anyone needs to defend their position in support of Donald Trump.

No. It's up to #NeverTrump to explain itself to us--the Trump supporters. The GOP has it's nominee and after 7-1/2 years of Obama and the Democrats, we have a broken America to fix and need to get busy.

We Trump supporters are not the ones out of step with the effort to elect a Republican president. That's Mr. #NeverTrump's role.

Full disclosure, I reregistered independent several months back after getting angry with the GOP's back room schemes and efforts to undermine Mr. Trump's candidacy.

[thatcher]

You don't have to be a shareholder to be screwed by Trump's sleazy business dealings.

“A lot of people got stuck holding the bag, and he didn’t. So people resented him for that and felt serious financial pain.”

And it wasn’t just faceless bankers who got burned in the bankruptcies.

In the 2009 case, unsecured creditors — low-level investors, contractors, small-time vendors — got less than a penny on the dollar for their claims against Trump Entertainment Resorts (Trump resigned as chairman four days before the bankruptcy filing).

“He defaulted, and he walked away,” said Harry Smith, 87, a retired trial attorney formerly of Manasquan, Monmouth County, currently living in Jupiter, Florida. Smith saw about $91,000 evaporate from his retirement account when his investment in Trump bonds soured.

In Atlantic City, “he did do great,” fumed Smith’s wife, Lillian, 76. “He walked away with our money. But none of those casinos did great.”

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/donald-trump-in-atlantic-city-jackpot-or-crackpot/article_7ae16c2c-3d14-11e5-aa3b-5b415c6c45e9.html

[sitetest]

Trump has no shareholders.  His businesses are all private and owned by him.

He was chairman, founder,  and CEO of trump Entertainment,  a company of which he destroyed roughly a billion dollars of shareholder value, now worth about a penny a share.

[sitetest]

Not necessarily.  You think Trump would answer to anybody?   

If he had shareholders, they'd have run his ass off years ago.

Even if he were the sole shareholder, there would be one shareholder.  I believe, though, his children are shareholders, also.

But, in point of fact, he DID run a public company, he lost all its money, and they DID run him off.

[aligncare]

You don't have to be a shareholder to be screwed by Trump's sleazy business dealings.

http://www.pressofatlanticcity.com/news/donald-trump-in-atlantic-city-jackpot-or-crackpot/article_7ae16c2c-3d14-11e5-aa3b-5b415c6c45e9.html

Sleazy? Don't make me laugh. That's an gross, intentional mischaracterization. Otherwise know as a slander.

Trump Entertainment Resorts -- formerly Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts -- was hit hard by the 2008 economic recession and missed a $53.1 million bond interest payment in December 2008, according to ABC News. After debating with the company’s board of directors, Trump resigned as the company’s chairman and had his corporate stake in the company reduced to 10 percent. The company continued to use Trump’s name in licensing.

A lot of companies were hit by the 2008 economic recession.

[thatcher]

Sleazy? Don't make me laugh. That's an gross, intentional mischaracterization. Otherwise know as a slander.
...
A lot of companies were hit by the 2008 economic recession.

LOL -- a slander actually has to be, you know, false.  Maybe you should expand your reading material beyond Trump-friendly sources -- there are reams of articles describing how he drained funds as his casinos were tanking.  Of course, a lot of companies were hit by the Great Recession -- that's not what Trump faced -- he borrowed earlier at very high interest rates because he was such a giant credit risk and then:

And he never was able to draw in enough gamblers to support all of the borrowing. During a decade when other casinos here thrived, Mr. Trump’s lagged, posting huge losses year after year. Stock and bondholders lost more than $1.5 billion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/12/nyregion/donald-trump-atlantic-city.html?_r=0

[sinkspur]

Sleazy? Don't make me laugh. That's an gross, intentional mischaracterization. Otherwise know as a slander.

Trump Entertainment Resorts -- formerly Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts -- was hit hard by the 2008 economic recession and missed a $53.1 million bond interest payment in December 2008, according to ABC News. After debating with the company’s board of directors, Trump resigned as the company’s chairman and had his corporate stake in the company reduced to 10 percent. The company continued to use Trump’s name in licensing.

A lot of companies were hit by the 2008 economic recession.

And to show what the market thought of Trump's credit, those bonds carried a 15% interest rate.  NOBODY was paying 15% on notes ten years ago, but Trump had to.

[jmyrlefuller]

Not necessarily.  You think Trump would answer to anybody?   

If he had shareholders, they'd have run his ass off years ago.

That's where the uber-rich have advantages the common man does not see.

Many of these nouveau riche companies structure their corporations in a way that ensures they can maintain as much control as possible while selling as much stock as possible. Usually this comes in the form of preferred stock: stock that doesn't carry voting power, but generally pays better. A perfect example is Marc Zuckerberg of Facebook: Zuckerberg never owned more than about a quarter of Facebook's stock but always had majority voting control of the company and could effectively make decisions on his own.

Trump did that a lot with his ventures, particularly the ones he drove into bankruptcy.

[RoosGirl]

I'm sorry, but we're long past time when anyone needs to defend their position in support of Donald Trump.

No. It's up to #NeverTrump to explain itself to us--the Trump supporters. The GOP has it's nominee and after 7-1/2 years of Obama and the Democrats, we have a broken America to fix and need to get busy.

We Trump supporters are not the ones out of step with the effort to elect a Republican president. That's Mr. #NeverTrump's role.

Full disclosure, I reregistered independent several months back after getting angry with the GOP's back room schemes and efforts to undermine Mr. Trump's candidacy.

That *is* my explanation for why I won't vote for him.  I have not been shown and have been unable to find any evidence that he is a conservative or a republican.  Trump supporters seem to want me to believe something about him that hasn't been and cannot be proved.  This is where I stand.  I will not believe something simply because it is written on his campaign website.

[wolfcreek]

No one's calling you a great spouse, either, and I doubt that you dumped your spouse for the next newest hot model the way Trump did. Twice.

Of course I did.,;)